BF2S Forums America: 1 Gun Control Europe: 0

ghettoperson wrote:

Lai wrote:

More and easier to get guns do not mean more violence. E.g. compare provincial France to (provincial) Holland; it's much easier to get a gun in France, but there aren't more killings (less evn I believe).

So what we should conclude from this, is that Americans are more likely to be evil than kick some serious ass vs. Europeans? Except for Hitler.

_fixt

krazed wrote:

exactly

.Sup wrote:

That's why in Europe there are less murders per year than there are in US.

Cause, effect

correlation doesn't show it

Ty wrote:

Ahh, New Zealand. Free from all the immigrant fear bullshit because no-one in their right mind would ever want to live here.

i thought NZ was an awesome place to live? Like oz but without the heat.

Ty wrote:

Ahh, New Zealand. Free from all the immigrant fear bullshit because no-one in their right mind would ever want to live here.

Mongrels

m3thod wrote:

i thought NZ was an awesome place to live? Like oz but without the heat.

is it true Ty? that you haveta have velcro gloves, and know how to help sheep over a fence?  :p

to hunt?

krazed wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

Europeans are always in DST talking about how how better Europe is compared to the U.S., well you guys aren't allowed guns like we are.

Only in America can you order guns online and have them shipped to you.
Like here I could order a AK47 and have it shipped to me for only     $699.99
http://www.hyattgunstore.com/product.ph … amp;page=1

Or here I could get a 9mm handgun for only 344.60 
http://www.thegunsource.com/item/632_Be … MM_UL.aspx

Or fuck it I could get a 12 gauge shotgun here for only 281.99 
http://www.thegunsource.com/item/3858_H … uard_.aspx

Good luck defending yourselves from the Muslim hordes and African raiders, we'll be all set here.

psssst, that "ak47" is semi auto

and on their site

"How are items shipped?
All Handguns ship UPS Next Day Air Saver only to your local FFL.

Long Guns are sent UPS Ground to your local FFL."

that means not to YOU directly afaik

Correct.  For you Europeans, an FFL is a federally licensed dealer who must do all the standard paperwork for gun sales.  Direct mail order sales of firearms to the average American were banned in 1968.

Too bad when you purchase said Firearm it has to be shipped to a licensed FFL dealer.. not directly to you.

Ty wrote:

Ahh, New Zealand. Free from all the immigrant fear bullshit because no-one in their right mind would ever want to live here.

Except the Maori and a few Euro convicts who were so bad they had to be sent to an even more remote and hostile place than Australia

Maybe you guys don't understand, just how far away from anything you really are

Murdered per 100,000 (most recent): America: 5.8 . UK: 2.03 . France: 1.59 . Iceland: 1.03 Switzerland: 0.8..... Why is America 1 and gun control Europe 0 again?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co … icide_rate

(yeah I know its wiki but I cbf looking for a different source)

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

Murdered per 100,000 (most recent): America: 5.8 . UK: 2.03 . France: 1.59 . Iceland: 1.03 Switzerland: 0.8..... Why is America 1 and gun control Europe 0 again?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_co … icide_rate

(yeah I know its wiki but I cbf looking for a different source)

because that's a very small sample of european countries.

Mekstizzle wrote:

Ty wrote:

Ahh, New Zealand. Free from all the immigrant fear bullshit because no-one in their right mind would ever want to live here.

Except the Maori and a few Euro convicts who were so bad they had to be sent to an even more remote and hostile place than Australia

Didn't work that way. By the time New Zealand was actually marked for settlement Australia was no longer a prison colony. Before then it was officially reckognised as being an independant nation not under the British but under Maori. Before THEN it was simple a remote island used by Whalers and anyone who needed a tall tree to repair a ship's mast. New Zealand only became a British Colony because some dumbass named Edward Gibbon Wakefield wanted to capitalise from settlers so started selling land he'd never seen, (or bought,) to prospective settlers. The British Government then thought "oh crap guess we're involved now," so organised the Treaty of Waitangi, a poorly written and ambiguous document that has been nothing short of a headache sice 1840, to gain soverignty of New Zealand from the Maori, (who had gained it in 1835 after a British-backed Declaration of Independance which was put in place so the French couldn't claim New Zealand.

So there. A short history of how New Zealand came to be.

After Sauron came to power everything changed of course but Governor General Gandalf and the Prime Minster and Deputy Prime Minister, (Bret McKenzie and Jemaine Clement in alternating roles,) have vowed to resist his expanding power by isolating Auckland, (read: Orc Land,) as much as possible while sending a short hairy little man, (Peter Jackson,) to destroy his power once and for all by throwing the One Ring into Mount Rangitoto.

Ty wrote:

Mekstizzle wrote:

Ty wrote:

Ahh, New Zealand. Free from all the immigrant fear bullshit because no-one in their right mind would ever want to live here.

Except the Maori and a few Euro convicts who were so bad they had to be sent to an even more remote and hostile place than Australia

Didn't work that way. By the time New Zealand was actually marked for settlement Australia was no longer a prison colony. Before then it was officially reckognised as being an independant nation not under the British but under Maori. Before THEN it was simple a remote island used by Whalers and anyone who needed a tall tree to repair a ship's mast. New Zealand only became a British Colony because some dumbass named Edward Gibbon Wakefield wanted to capitalise from settlers so started selling land he'd never seen, (or bought,) to prospective settlers. The British Government then thought "oh crap guess we're involved now," so organised the Treaty of Waitangi, a poorly written and ambiguous document that has been nothing short of a headache sice 1840, to gain soverignty of New Zealand from the Maori, (who had gained it in 1835 after a British-backed Declaration of Independance which was put in place so the French couldn't claim New Zealand.

So there. A short history of how New Zealand came to be.

After Sauron came to power everything changed of course but Governor General Gandalf and the Prime Minster and Deputy Prime Minister, (Bret McKenzie and Jemaine Clement in alternating roles,) have vowed to resist his expanding power by isolating Auckland, (read: Orc Land,) as much as possible while sending a short hairy little man, (Peter Jackson,) to destroy his power once and for all by throwing the One Ring into Mount Rangitoto.

@ the LOTR stuff.

Interesting history tho. Tbh, I wouldn't mind living there - the nature side of things is fucking mental. And, if the Flight of the Conchords tv series has taught me anything, your accent will be a constant source of lols.. in a quirky, funny way.

But if you speak to any other aussies, I never said I would live there