fuck i think im cracking up...thought i just posted something
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Trade. Islam was introduced via trade before the invasions.Mekstizzle wrote:
Oh ok, what's your version then? Just curious
Here, read this also:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_con … bcontinent
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...show me the schematic
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to me he looks gayghettoperson wrote:
He looks like a massive douchebag.
OMG!!! outrage!! i think they are more outraged that no one here knows who the fuck he is. or gives a flying fuck.
How to get around this dumb system:
Brainwash a white guy.
lesson over.
Brainwash a white guy.
lesson over.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
That was very small compared to the actual invasions and empire building phase (and forceful conversions etc..). Think whatever helps you do whatever you want though.Beduin wrote:
Trade. Islam was introduced via trade before the invasions.Mekstizzle wrote:
Oh ok, what's your version then? Just curious
Here, read this also:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_con … bcontinent
It went pretty much like this. Arabs invade Persia. Persians convert to Arab religion. Persians + Mongols invade India (about 1000 years ago). About 1/3 eventually convert to Arab religion. (rinse and repeat for the rest of the non-Arab Muslim world)
The other bits such as trade etc.. were small in the historical context compared.
Hell, even most of the Arabs themselves were converted because they got their arses kicked either by Muhammad or his cronies after he died.
Islam has an extremely violent past and only someone who buries his head in the sand would think otherwise, the worst of all the major religions, and the reason it's so widespread is because of this violence. The same goes for Christianity in Europe (to a lesser extent) but to a bigger extent, Christianity in places like Africa and the Americas.
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You used the word introduced, but you really meant conquered/invaded?Mekstizzle wrote:
That was very small compared to the actual invasions and empire building phase (and forceful conversions etc..). Think whatever helps you do whatever you want though.
It went pretty much like this. Arabs invade Persia. Persians convert to Arab religion. Persians + Mongols invade India (about 1000 years ago). About 1/3 eventually convert to Arab religion. (rinse and repeat for the rest of the non-Arab Muslim world)
The other bits such as trade etc.. were small in the historical context compared.
Hell, even most of the Arabs themselves were converted because they got their arses kicked either by Muhammad or his cronies after he died.
Islam has an extremely violent past and only someone who buries his head in the sand would think otherwise, the worst of all the major religions, and the reason it's so widespread is because of this violence. The same goes for Christianity in Europe (to a lesser extent) but to a bigger extent, Christianity in places like Africa and the Americas.
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Nope, like I said. In the historical context and taking into account the bigger picture for the entire region. It was the invasions and conquests that primarily introduced the religion.
ökMekstizzle wrote:
Nope, like I said. In the historical context and taking into account the bigger picture for the entire region. It was the invasions and conquests that primarily introduced the religion.
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He is. He's a massive Bollywood star. I'm fairly sure Bollywood films are seen by more people than Hollywood films....Adams_BJ wrote:
Global Icon my ass
I don't really see the big controversy here...
Famous guy was routinely stopped and detained at an airport because he was non-white?
Well duh, don't fly to the US if you don't want that treatment!
Famous guy was routinely stopped and detained at an airport because he was non-white?
Well duh, don't fly to the US if you don't want that treatment!
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But those people all live in India. Hardly the globe.Bertster7 wrote:
He is. He's a massive Bollywood star. I'm fairly sure Bollywood films are seen by more people than Hollywood films....Adams_BJ wrote:
Global Icon my ass
Actually, a lot of the globe. It's not just India.ghettoperson wrote:
But those people all live in India. Hardly the globe.Bertster7 wrote:
He is. He's a massive Bollywood star. I'm fairly sure Bollywood films are seen by more people than Hollywood films....Adams_BJ wrote:
Global Icon my ass
It's the entire Indian subcontinent, the Middle East, Africa, some of Russia (and former soviet states) and China.
You sure? I can imagine India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and that sort of area, but Africa and China? Also, aren't those movies all in Hindi? At least, from what I've very briefly seen of them they are.
They get dubbed.ghettoperson wrote:
You sure? I can imagine India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and that sort of area, but Africa and China? Also, aren't those movies all in Hindi? At least, from what I've very briefly seen of them they are.
Apparently China don't watch so many these days, but they still occasionally get nationwide cinema releases.Wiki wrote:
Bollywood movies are also popular in Afghanistan due to the country's proximity with the Indian subcontinent and certain other cultural perspectives present in the movies. A number of Bollywood movies were filmed inside Afghanistan while some dealt with the country, including Dharmatma, Kabul Express, Khuda Gawah and Escape From Taliban. Hindi films have also been popular in numerous Arab countries, including Palestine, Jordan, Egypt and the Gulf countries. Imported Indian films are usually subtitled in Arabic upon the film's release. Since the early 2000s, Bollywood has progressed in Israel. Special channels dedicated to Indian films have been displayed on cable television. Bollywood films are also popular across Southeast Asia (particularly the Malay Archipelago) and Central Asia (particularly in Uzbekistan and Tajikistan).
Bollywood films are particularly popular in the former Soviet Union. Bollywood films have been dubbed into Russian.
It's not all of Africa either, but Chad, Somalia, Ethiopia and Nigeria all have large Bollywood markets.
Also, in terms of total ticket sales:
That's a billion extra tickets.Bollywood sold 3.6 billion tickets and had total revenues (theatre tickets, DVDs, television etc.) of US$1.3 billion, whereas Hollywood films sold 2.6 billion tickets and generated total revenues (again from all formats) of US$51 billion.
Bollywood is huge. It just gets ignored by the West a lot because it's all shit.
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Intriguing. Still, if you were to drop Tom Cruise in any airport in the world, I'd say he's got a hell of a lot better chance of being recognised than this Bollywood chappy. Euan McGregor managed to get recognised just about everywhere by someone when he did his round the world trips.
There's a Bollywood In-Demand channel here. It just launched recently..
So was he angry that he was "routinely detained" or that no one recognized him?
So was he angry that he was "routinely detained" or that no one recognized him?
It's starting to come over to the west now. Sylvester Styllone (sp) just made an indian movie about a month back. Snoop Dogg has done a soundtrack for a bollywood movie too.Bertster7 wrote:
They get dubbed.ghettoperson wrote:
You sure? I can imagine India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and that sort of area, but Africa and China? Also, aren't those movies all in Hindi? At least, from what I've very briefly seen of them they are.Apparently China don't watch so many these days, but they still occasionally get nationwide cinema releases.Wiki wrote:
Bollywood movies are also popular in Afghanistan due to the country's proximity with the Indian subcontinent and certain other cultural perspectives present in the movies. A number of Bollywood movies were filmed inside Afghanistan while some dealt with the country, including Dharmatma, Kabul Express, Khuda Gawah and Escape From Taliban. Hindi films have also been popular in numerous Arab countries, including Palestine, Jordan, Egypt and the Gulf countries. Imported Indian films are usually subtitled in Arabic upon the film's release. Since the early 2000s, Bollywood has progressed in Israel. Special channels dedicated to Indian films have been displayed on cable television. Bollywood films are also popular across Southeast Asia (particularly the Malay Archipelago) and Central Asia (particularly in Uzbekistan and Tajikistan).
Bollywood films are particularly popular in the former Soviet Union. Bollywood films have been dubbed into Russian.
It's not all of Africa either, but Chad, Somalia, Ethiopia and Nigeria all have large Bollywood markets.
Also, in terms of total ticket sales:That's a billion extra tickets.Bollywood sold 3.6 billion tickets and had total revenues (theatre tickets, DVDs, television etc.) of US$1.3 billion, whereas Hollywood films sold 2.6 billion tickets and generated total revenues (again from all formats) of US$51 billion.
Bollywood is huge. It just gets ignored by the West a lot because it's all shit.
Goonies, no one is going to start watching your stupid Indian musicals.
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