France Moves to Impose Ban on Burqa

2009-06-21 12:43:47

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Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|5870

The French government says it may impose restrictions on wearing the burqa, or face-and-body-covering veil, if a parliamentary probe finds the garment degrading for women. The burqa debate is dividing politicians and the Muslim community.

Government spokesman Luc Chatel became the latest politician to wade into a growing debate over the burqa in France, telling French television on Friday the government may consider curbs on wearing the head-to-toe garment if it is found to be degrading for women.

A group of nearly 60 French lawmakers are asking for a parliamentary panel to consider restrictions on the burqa, which is also called the niqab.

https://www.voanews.com/english/images/ap_france_burqa_210_19Jun09.jpg

http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-06-19-voa51.cfm
Hmm well that is a clever way for trying to run all the Muslims out.

2009-06-21 12:44:32

#2

usmarine: Banned; +2,785|7046

cue the riots

(and keep your mouths shut about the mooslim google ad, we know. fuck)

Last edited by usmarine (2009-06-21 12:45:13)

2009-06-21 12:51:11

#3

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6885|132 and Bush

doubt it

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2009-06-21 13:00:15

#4

Catbox: forgiveness; +505|7001

uh oh... There will be outrage!!!

and
http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/06/17/euro … the-right/
http://www2.macleans.ca/2009/06/18/why- … in-europe/

and what's with the muslim dating service ad? I kid...
I have an eddie murphy movie advertisement

Love is the answer

2009-06-21 13:19:06

#5

DrunkFace: Germans did 911; +427|6966|Disaster Free Zone

The fuck?

At least come up with a decent reason like security or something. Banning because its 'degrading for women' is like banning bright red lipstick cause it makes you look like a whore, they wear it by choice of their own freewill for fucks sake.

2009-06-21 13:22:21

#6

Flecco: iPod is broken.; +1,048|6949|NT, like Mick Dundee

Macbeth wrote:
Hmm well that is a clever way for trying to run all the Muslims out.

Not all Muslim women wear them...

Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.

2009-06-21 13:45:23

#7

ATG: Banned; +5,233|6813|Global Command

I told you the French were not pussy.

_{like the australians:D}

2009-06-21 13:45:29

#8

M.O.A.B: 'Light 'em up!'; +1,220|6507|Escea

Come over to the Dark Side Luke!

They should have said something along the lines of. 'For photo identification: Driver's licenses and the like.'

2009-06-21 13:57:28

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Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|6905|London, England

It is degrading indeed and I'd actually rather see it happen, but then you'll be getting alot of women saying they do it out of "choice"

I don't see why some have to go so ..... total ninja, can't they just cover their heads like most of them do

2009-06-21 13:59:31

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Gooners: Wiki Contributor; +2,700|6917

Mekstizzle wrote:
It is degrading indeed and I'd actually rather see it happen, but then you'll be getting alot of women saying they do it out of "choice"

I don't see why some have to go so ..... total ninja, can't they just cover their heads like most of them do

Of course it seems degrading to non-Muslims, I believe it is too, but it's a part of Muslim culture and tradition

2009-06-21 14:31:22

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The_Sniper_NM: Official EVGA Fanboy; +94|6398|SC | USA |

Gooners wrote:
Mekstizzle wrote:
It is degrading indeed and I'd actually rather see it happen, but then you'll be getting alot of women saying they do it out of "choice"

I don't see why some have to go so ..... total ninja, can't they just cover their heads like most of them do
Of course it seems degrading to non-Muslims, I believe it is too, but it's a part of Muslim culture and tradition

Which can be fucked up (Speaking about extremists here)

Then again, I'd shoot a christian extremist as well. (Take a look at my location, you'll see my point of view).

2009-06-22 01:42:25

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JahManRed: wank; +646|6912|IRELAND

'degrading for women' well its their choice to be a Muslim and wear the dam thing so that is a stupid reason. I could understand if it was in public buildings and alike for security reasons.

2009-06-22 03:45:45

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Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,816|6390|eXtreme to the maX

Good for the French.

well its their choice to be a Muslim and wear the dam thing so that is a stupid reason

Not always, there's a lot of family pressure.

Fuck Israel

2009-06-22 07:14:38

#14

JahManRed: wank; +646|6912|IRELAND

Dilbert_X wrote:
Good for the French.
well its their choice to be a Muslim and wear the dam thing so that is a stupid reason
Not always, there's a lot of family pressure.

Families are families. Government shouldn't interfere. Nanny state bullshit. My mum is always on at me to cut my hair, should their be a law against that? Wish there was tbh.

2009-06-22 08:17:01

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Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,816|6390|eXtreme to the maX

If your mum is indoctrinating religion into you or forcing you to wear a bizarre disguise there should be a law against it.
People shouldn't have religion rammed down their throat.
If they don't like the French secular culture they can leave.

And get a haircut.

Fuck Israel

2009-06-22 08:59:54

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Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|6866|SE London

I think a universal ban might be going a bit far, but bans on them with some caveats might be a good idea.

I've seen women driving in them. That can't be safe. You'd have no peripheral vision.

2009-06-22 09:31:25

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JahManRed: wank; +646|6912|IRELAND

Dilbert_X wrote:
If your mum is indoctrinating religion into you or forcing you to wear a bizarre disguise there should be a law against it.
People shouldn't have religion rammed down their throat.
If they don't like the French secular culture they can leave.

And get a haircut.

My mum forced me to go to church until I was old enough to tell her to cram it. A Muslim is free to drop their religion at anytime. Also, you can still be a Muslim and not wear that shit. Its up to the state to ensure that people can drop their religion or become a moderate without reprisals from their families. That's their job, not banning shit.

And I did get my haircut. Got brownie points so she would look after my kid while I went on the lash. I always hold back until it annoys her, then use it against her......muuuuuhahahahahah.

2009-06-22 09:33:08

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JahManRed: wank; +646|6912|IRELAND

Bertster7 wrote:
I've seen women driving in them. That can't be safe. You'd have no peripheral vision.

Fixed

2009-06-22 09:37:38

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cl4u53w1t2: Salon-Bolschewist; +269|6757|Kakanien

Mekstizzle wrote:
It is degrading indeed and I'd actually rather see it happen, but then you'll be getting alot of women saying they do it out of "choice"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L2oh3h3DvY0

2009-06-22 09:50:05

#20

TSI: Cholera in the time of love; +247|6265|Toronto

Dilbert_X wrote:
If your mum is indoctrinating religion into you or forcing you to wear a bizarre disguise there should be a law against it.
People shouldn't have religion rammed down their throat.
If they don't like the French secular culture they can leave.

And get a haircut.

Very very true.

What is the reasoning behind the burqa anyways? To show devotion to Allah? Hardly. It's a sign of the husband's total and utter domination of the wife. These women have hardly any freedoms.

I'm not against Islam or its doctrines. I'm against a corruption of basic civil rights. Moreover, as Dilbert said, it's essentially a disguise, and extremely dangerous. You can't drive or even walk safely, and there's no telling what could be under there. Any person could wear a big cloak to hide guns or bombs or anything really, and they could not be searched. This is true of any religion; the sikh kirpan is in the same league.

Dilber't final point is the best. When in Rome, do as the Romans. France isn't muslim, and it's not going to accomodate people's wishes for it to be.

Good to see Sarko's people having a backbone.

I like pie.

2009-06-22 11:52:30

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(T)eflon(S)hadow: R.I.P. Neda; +456|7113|Grapevine, TX

do it Frenchie
Ill highly respect that move

and I dont say that lightly

2009-06-22 16:38:55

#22

HollisHurlbut: Member; +51|6282

"Degrading to women"? What BS is this? Who gave the government the authority to decide which clothes are demeaning to women? What's next? Will it become illegal for a man to say "do my laundry, bitch" to his wife?

Last edited by HollisHurlbut (2009-06-22 16:39:21)

2009-06-22 16:44:30

#23

CameronPoe: Member; +2,925|6840

Wow. France is losing the plot. Dictating what people should or shouldn't wear. How 'free'. If she wanted to take the fucking thing off then she should TAKE THE FUCKING INITIATIVE HERSELF.

2009-06-22 18:25:44

#24

Harmor: Error_Name_Not_Found; +605|6833|San Diego, CA, USA

Some days I think I may want to live in France instead of California...

2009-06-22 20:29:18

#25

Stubbee: Religions Hate Facts, Questions and Doubts; +223|7028|Reality

CameronPoe wrote:
Wow. France is losing the plot. Dictating what people should or shouldn't wear. How 'free'. If she wanted to take the fucking thing off then she should TAKE THE FUCKING INITIATIVE HERSELF.

Then be killed for despoiling the family 'honor'...

The US economy is a giant Ponzi scheme. And 'to big to fail' is code speak for 'niahnahniahniahnah 99 percenters'

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