I wonder which forum they get their requests and ideas from.
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Anybody wondering about mod tools should read this: http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/batt … tools.html
It's a big post about why they aren't coming from the single programmer that was left in charge of patching BC2 (originally written for BC2 but I reckon most of it still applies here).
It comes down to 2 main points (read it anyway).
1. Licensing fees would be astronomical.
2. Frostbite is extremely retarded.
In fact he even says in the post that the editor itself is fine and not the problem:
It's a big post about why they aren't coming from the single programmer that was left in charge of patching BC2 (originally written for BC2 but I reckon most of it still applies here).
It comes down to 2 main points (read it anyway).
1. Licensing fees would be astronomical.
2. Frostbite is extremely retarded.
In fact he even says in the post that the editor itself is fine and not the problem:
Editor
The editor itself is reasonably stable and well-behaving. It is far from obvious how to set up the game logic for a level, but that is easily covered by releasing some example levels which contain the logic setup for the common gamemodes.
Last edited by Spidery_Yoda (2011-02-20 03:36:35)
Sounds like he has a bone to pick.
Anyway, I hate proprietary file formats too.
Anyway, I hate proprietary file formats too.
more like proprietary file pipelines
Actually mods cause people to keep games installed on their computers longer, and that is one of the most important factors in selling DLC.tazz. wrote:
They want to sell DLC - Thus why no mod tools.
Grow some fucking brains.
No, it was the reason previously stated, that Frostbite was originally designed to work only on the consoles, and so when DICE made it they didn't design it with mod tools in mind. BC2 (and BF3 most likely) used large amounts of legacy code, and it would require a large amount of man hours to make the changes to the engine needed to support modding.
The lack of mod tools stems more from a lack of forethought than from greed.
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Actually mods cause people to keep games installed on their computers longer, and that is one of the most important factors in selling DLC.tazz. wrote:
They want to sell DLC - Thus why no mod tools.
Grow some fucking brains.
No, it was the reason previously stated, that Frostbite was originally designed to work only on the consoles, and so when DICE made it they didn't design it with mod tools in mind. BC2 (and BF3 most likely) used large amounts of legacy code, and it would require a large amount of man hours to make the changes to the engine needed to support modding.
The lack of mod tools stems more from a lack of forethought than from greed.
Which is a symptom of greed.
Or business sense
On another note with mods and consoles, imagine New Super Mario Bros Wii, playable online...also with user maps/worlds and a mapping utility that made sense? It would be a coup for Nintendo.
LoL
a wii game lol
Oui
I'm still pretty certain that he was referring to BC2.Jaekus wrote:
Ok... cause you're clearly wrong there.
I even more certain that if BF3 is a good game it will be a miracle.
I'm pretty certain BF3 has been in development since around/before then.
He also wouldn't say he can't comment on the game if was referring to a that was at the time being released 2 weeks from the comment being made, a game that already had a great deal of press surrounding it.
He also wouldn't say he can't comment on the game if was referring to a that was at the time being released 2 weeks from the comment being made, a game that already had a great deal of press surrounding it.
The guy left dice in 2006, was interviewed about BC2 several weeks before it came out, and misspoke while referring to it, probably because when he had been working at dice the working title for BC2 was BF3.
Has there been any mention of a demo? There's no way I'm buying the game without playing a demo. I made that mistake with BC2. For me, BC2 was a massive let down - I should have tried it before I bought it.
If there isn't a demo then I suppose I'll just pirate it when it comes and and see if I like it.
If there isn't a demo then I suppose I'll just pirate it when it comes and and see if I like it.
I'm afraid it would have to be the Wii 2, or whatever Nintendo's planning on calling it. I think I remember a developer interview lamenting the inability to implement online gameplay on New Mario.RTHKI wrote:
a wii game, playable online. lol
I still stand by it. An online Mario platformer with community maps/worlds capacity would take the cake. Look at all the people playing and watching modhacks on youtube alone.
Ya, wii is nice. But they can't handle high tech games compared to the ps3 or xbox360
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
i mean it's totally worth discussing the wii in a bf3 thread.
dx11 graphics work seamlessly on the wii
dx11 graphics work seamlessly on the wii
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You're hilariousUzique wrote:
i mean it's totally worth discussing the wii in a bf3 thread.
dx11 graphics work seamlessly on the wii
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
Sorta came up with consoles/modding tools, but I'll desist.War Man wrote:
You're hilariousUzique wrote:
i mean it's totally worth discussing the wii in a bf3 thread.
dx11 graphics work seamlessly on the wii
i dont get why mod tools are that big of a deal tbh
mods enable gamerz to develop a game that fits their tastes/requirements. It's because you didn't like any of the BF2 mods which is the source of your confusion.
I personally found POE2 awesome.
I personally found POE2 awesome.
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m3thod wrote:
I personally found POE2 awesome.
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