What about the Enlightenment exactly? I've heard a lot about you. Oxford English major huh? Good choice. You're gonna be rich one day.Uzique wrote:
you don't have 'belief' in the results in science... you have factual, logical proof.VYWang wrote:
No you're missing my point. What would happen in science if no one had faith in the results? It wouldn't be believed. Now, say that the evidence was OVERWHELMING, but still no one had faith in it. It still wouldn't be believed. This actually happened when a person invented bikes that shifted gears. Most, if not all, professional bikers refused to believe that it was better dispite the fact that the owner beat many, many of these professional bikers. They just didn't have faith in the results. Or the case with weight lifter's shoes. For the longest time they had a peice of wood in the sole for support, in 2008 (I believe) Nike had invented a better pair, one that was scientifically proven through tests, to provide better support, cushioning, etc. Yet weight lifters still switched back to the wooden shoes after trying out the scientifically superior one. They just didn't have faith in the results.AussieReaper wrote:
The theory is not incomplete.
Take a look at the breeds of dogs and tell me they didn't evolve from wolves. Go on.
The bulldog was especially bred to look the way it does. That's evolution through selective breeding. Same has happened through cows, wheat, cats every other domestic animal and every other foodstock man has cultivated. We have used the process of evolution to change flora and fauna to suite as better.
We don't need faith in the results. We don't need faith in the theory of evolution. We have evidence it works. We have millions of years of evolutionary science to back this up. There is no faith required in anything at all to do with evolution because the evidence is so overwhelming.
You need faith in God, the Church and religion, because there is no evidence. If there was, you wouldn't need faith.
you're misusing the word 'belief' in a vague and semantic way... that's not an argument at all
you need to look up the word 'empiricism' and the date 1750 and get with the fucking program, kid
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Even if you retest it, you still have to have faith in the result. Obviously our definitions of faith are different. Sure eventually you'll get to a point where you'll have a lot of the same data. But you still need to have faith that you did everything correctly and that your way of testing is the correct way of doing so. Then you'll have faith that the data is correct. Doesn't matter how many times you test the hypothesis, each and every time you test it you're still believing that the data you get is correct.AussieReaper wrote:
If you don't have "faith" in the results you retest your hypothesis and then analyse the result. It's called the scientific method.VYWang wrote:
No you're missing my point. What would happen in science if no one had faith in the results? It wouldn't be believed. Now, say that the evidence was OVERWHELMING, but still no one had faith in it. It still wouldn't be believed. This actually happened when a person invented bikes that shifted gears. Most, if not all, professional bikers refused to believe that it was better dispite the fact that the owner beat many, many of these professional bikers. They just didn't have faith in the results. Or the case with weight lifter's shoes. For the longest time they had a peice of wood in the sole for support, in 2008 (I believe) Nike had invented a better pair, one that was scientifically proven through tests, to provide better support, cushioning, etc. Yet weight lifters still switched back to the wooden shoes after trying out the scientifically superior one. They just didn't have faith in the results.
Please point out in what point faith comes into the below:
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You have no understanding at all of how science progresses if you really believe that faith plays a role anywhere.
Also, yea it is incomplete. People still debate what kinds of evolution there are. I'm not saying evolution isn't present, only that it's incomplete.
No you're missing my point. What would happen in science if no one had faith in the results? It wouldn't be believed. Now, say that the evidence was OVERWHELMING, but still no one had faith in it. It still wouldn't be believed. This actually happened when a person invented bikes that shifted gears. Most, if not all, professional bikers refused to believe that it was better dispite the fact that the owner beat many, many of these professional bikers. They just didn't have faith in the results. Or the case with weight lifter's shoes. For the longest time they had a peice of wood in the sole for support, in 2008 (I believe) Nike had invented a better pair, one that was scientifically proven through tests, to provide better support, cushioning, etc. Yet weight lifters still switched back to the wooden shoes after trying out the scientifically superior one. They just didn't have faith in the results.AussieReaper wrote:
The theory is not incomplete.VYWang wrote:
Hey guys, it's HaiBai's friend. I finally remembered that I had an account. Lol oops.
To address the evolution point:
The theory of evolution is incomplete. That's why people are still arguing about the types of evolution. A slow gradual change vs. period of stability then rapid change (the names elude me at the moment). You can believe one or the other if you believe in evolution, but this belief is simply based on faith. You have faith in the evidence that it's correct. Science definitely still has roots in faith. Those ties might be weaker, but people always have faith in SOMETHING. No matter how many times you test a hypothesis and theory, you still have faith in the results. If not, then there is no point in testing it. Same deal with religion, except you need more faith.
Take a look at the breeds of dogs and tell me they didn't evolve from wolves. Go on.
The bulldog was especially bred to look the way it does. That's evolution through selective breeding. Same has happened through cows, wheat, cats every other domestic animal and every other foodstock man has cultivated. We have used the process of evolution to change flora and fauna to suite as better.
We don't need faith in the results. We don't need faith in the theory of evolution. We have evidence it works. We have millions of years of evolutionary science to back this up. There is no faith required in anything at all to do with evolution because the evidence is so overwhelming.
You need faith in God, the Church and religion, because there is no evidence. If there was, you wouldn't need faith.
Haha no, but this thread would've been remarkably boring if it was just you guys vs HaiBai.Poseidon wrote:
i can honestly just imagine how this went
"dude, everyone's ganging up on me on the gaming forum i'm almost entirely hated on. they're all saying jesus doesn't exist and bad stuff about catholicism come help me!!!!"
LolPoseidon wrote:
haibai actually recruited the only friend he has in real life to back him up on an argument about religion
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How is that (The church persecuting scientific research) different then the way that most (not all) atheists persecute religious people for having faith in something that can't they (the atheists) can't feel or see?Shocking wrote:
Until Leó Szilárd came about and people figured that a nuclear chain reaction was possible noone knew how the sun actually worked. I'd consider that pretty important knowledge, added to that that we may be able to recreate the same principle someday, nuclear power in its current state is just an attempt at doing that. Has it helped people? Absolutely. Has it harmed people? Absolutely.
Can't draw a parallel inbetween that and the church persecuting scientific research during the dark/middle ages though. That was just insanity, God was absolute and couldn't be questioned. It allowed people to lord over others in absurd ways such as with the inquisitions, the Vatican was essentially one hell of a dictatorship.
"Faith" = emotion & makebelief. As I said before, if you can't explain why your religion is the right one without being an idiot all that praying on sunday didn't actually teach you anything.
Anyway, if you're not religious why in hell were you arguing evolution with me and do you believe abortion equates killing?
& lol @ thinking stem cell research doesnt help anyone.
Faith does not necessarily mean make belief. In the medieval times people had faith that rain would fall and their seeds would grow so they could feed their families. If you didn't have faith in that, you wouldn't plant any seeds and you would starve. Our civilizations are based on faith.
Just because I'm not religious doesn't mean I can't argue for them, even if I'm not as effective as a priest or whatnot.
And that's a really moral question that I'm still deciding on. But for now, I believe that abortion is killing.
Hey guys, it's HaiBai's friend. I finally remembered that I had an account. Lol oops.
To address the evolution point:
The theory of evolution is incomplete. That's why people are still arguing about the types of evolution. A slow gradual change vs. period of stability then rapid change (the names elude me at the moment). You can believe one or the other if you believe in evolution, but this belief is simply based on faith. You have faith in the evidence that it's correct. Science definitely still has roots in faith. Those ties might be weaker, but people always have faith in SOMETHING. No matter how many times you test a hypothesis and theory, you still have faith in the results. If not, then there is no point in testing it. Same deal with religion, except you need more faith.
To address the evolution point:
The theory of evolution is incomplete. That's why people are still arguing about the types of evolution. A slow gradual change vs. period of stability then rapid change (the names elude me at the moment). You can believe one or the other if you believe in evolution, but this belief is simply based on faith. You have faith in the evidence that it's correct. Science definitely still has roots in faith. Those ties might be weaker, but people always have faith in SOMETHING. No matter how many times you test a hypothesis and theory, you still have faith in the results. If not, then there is no point in testing it. Same deal with religion, except you need more faith.
Same here =\Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:
And here I've been using my sniper rifle instead like a sucker.
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Beat him up in the middle of the night.Runs_with_sciss0rs wrote:
Actually, I want to buy a security camera for my house and hook it up to my computer. Anything that I can put outside my window and run a USB or something to my computer.. is that possible? I haven't done any research.
some punk kid, I know who is doing it, has been egging my truck and Jeep, and he keyed my dads car, $1,200 damage. The only problem is nobody has seen him do it because he does it in the middle of the night. I need something to catch him on camera... help?
and no I can't beat him up because hes like 13 years old and I'm not going to risk getting arrested.
Excellent point, I never thought about that. Thanks!QuickBird Driver wrote:
If I remember right, my CPU did not come with paste, and looking at NewEgg, their CPU's don't list paste as included. It costs less than $10. If you build your own machine, i.e. you'll buy a separate CPU, you will have to put the paste on yourself. It's not difficult to do. The CPU will be clean on top. The CPU's come with a sink and usually a fan, but they are pretty wimpy and loud, and it is worth it to buy an aftermarket sink and fan. The best fans are quiet and still move a lot of air which is important with newer machines the way that all the cables and cards and drives restrict airflow. The only time I would think you would have to scrape off paste is if you are installing a used CPU.
IMO, I would not get a case with a PSU in the bottom simply because heat rises, and the PSU fan helps to evacuate hot air from the case. Also, if the PSU is in the bottom, then the MoBo and expansion cards are going to be a little higher in the case meaning they will be where the warmest air is. Also, also, the PSU generates heat, and that heat will be convecting right through where the board and cards are.
When I first started I hit the ball and it popped straight up and landed in the same spot. Damit.
Thanks for all the help everyone!
I'm getting:Finray wrote:
Well what parts have you settled on?VYWang wrote:
Hey one last question guys, it seems that all these parts are made by a billion different companies or something. LIke PNY, Sparkle, etc. Which ones are trustworthy and which ones arn't? Thanks!
For Graphics cards, stuff like Asus and Saphire are good, but steer clear of MSI.
Graphics Card: GTX260
Processor: Intel Core i5-750
Motherboard: ASUS P7P55D LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard
RAM: 4Gigs of DDR3
Burner: Samsung Black 2MB SATA CD/DVD Burner
PSU: At least 550W (Need ALOT of help choosing this one)
HD: 500gigs+ (One that won't die in a year)
Case: .8mm rolled aluminum
The case, HD, and burner arn't the main concerns here but I've read some reviews and it seems that there are alot of PSU's out there that die after a year or two. Don't want that happening
I think that's it, does the past come with the CPU or do you need to order separately?QuickBird Driver wrote:
Good one, HaiBai. I love the way it tingles when I drop a hair dryer in the tub, too. LOL
VYWang, are you thinking of the thermal paste you put on the CPU before you install the heat sink? Maybe it is because one of the best brands for paste is Arctic Silver. Paste is something you should definitely use because it makes the heat transfer to the sink more efficient.
Yea, I'm ordering a case that should work. However, one thing I'm worried about is the fact that the PSU is mounted on the bottom... I'm wondering if there's gonna be a problem with heat because my computer is probably gonna be sitting on the carpet :\QuickBird Driver wrote:
Another thing to watch out for is the size of heat sink/fan combo and the case size. I thought my case was going to be big enough for my Monsoon Vigor, but I still had to move my side case fan to the outside because the cooler was so freakin' big. And a lot of people don't take into account that their machine will be inside a desk with limited or no airflow. The biggest enemy of computer components is heat. Keep that in mind when you build your machine.
Hey one last question guys, it seems that all these parts are made by a billion different companies or something. LIke PNY, Sparkle, etc. Which ones are trustworthy and which ones arn't? Thanks!
Yea, seems like there's new technology every day now. I mean, intel has like 5 different sockets... why? :\
I've heard of SLI, but whats Crossfire? Is one better than the other?QuickBird Driver wrote:
Just a suggestion, VYWang, if you can find a MoBo that supports SLI or Crossfire, it should help down the road if you want to upgrade for better video performance. Although, I hear that there is no appreciable boost in BF2 performance maybe because of age. There are a couple of tricks to SLI, though.
1 question though, if you had a card that couldn't run a game because it sucked or w/e, would 2 of the same cards allow it to run the game? Or would it not make a difference since the specs would be the same x2?QuickBird Driver wrote:
For one, you can't use different video cards together. They have to be identical cards. When I built mine earlier this year, I got a board with 3 SLI slots but bought only one card to save money. Then a couple of months ago when I decided to buy a second card, I had to really search because hardly anyone was still selling it.
I will definitely remember that lol, there was this one person that told me about this TIM thing though, it was like liquid metal you put on your components to help cool them down. TechnologyQuickBird Driver wrote:
Second, if you do get SLI, try to find a board where at least two of the PCIe slots are x16 all the time. Most of the boards when I bought mine didn't have this. The first slot was x16, but if you used the second one, both dropped to x8. Two steps forward and one back.
On another note, with all the heat that these new multi-core CPUs and video cards generate, get a good cooler and plenty of case fans.
Max: Hahaha, no clue that they made TIM, it's like a liquid heatsink lol.
Finray: BF: BC was a great game, can't wait for 2!
I don't even think the mobo I'm getting has an IDE port lol. Under specs it says it has 8 SATA 3 Gb/s and SATA RAID 0/1/5/10 Matrix RAID
Finray: BF: BC was a great game, can't wait for 2!
I don't even think the mobo I'm getting has an IDE port lol. Under specs it says it has 8 SATA 3 Gb/s and SATA RAID 0/1/5/10 Matrix RAID
Thanks for clearing that up Hopefully it won't be too hard to install lol.max wrote:
There are hardly any CPU coolers out there that are compatible with i5 CPUs. Intel changed the way the cooler is mounted vs. LGA 1366 (core i7) or LGA 755 (Core 2). With the bracket I linked, you can install that cooler on an i5 CPU
MetaL: Damit, late by 2hrs
Finray: They have DX11???? Wow. I'm really behind, is it a big improvement over DX10? Because I don't want to get all screwed over by new tech (like I have before lol)
HaiBai: Hahaha, took me 3yrs but I can finally game. Just be happy
Yea, I'm already looking at parts on newegg and trying to build a computer, if you have time go to the tech section and check it out. Any help would be appreciated
Yea I see your point, I didn't notice that the 9800 series was dated (came out like 1.5yrs ago or something right?) while the motherboard was fairly new (bottlenecked? Sorry if I got the terms wrong, noob here )
What do you guys think of this then?
GTX260, Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz,
ASUS P7P55D LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard,
the SATA DVD Burner max recommended,
a 600W PSU (I looked under the specs of the GTX260 and it needed 500W, I decided to go above that just in case)?
4GBs of RAM
and the same HD and case
P.S. I don't get the mounting bracket is used for though, could you clarify?
Thanks!
What do you guys think of this then?
GTX260, Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz,
ASUS P7P55D LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard,
the SATA DVD Burner max recommended,
a 600W PSU (I looked under the specs of the GTX260 and it needed 500W, I decided to go above that just in case)?
4GBs of RAM
and the same HD and case
P.S. I don't get the mounting bracket is used for though, could you clarify?
Thanks!
I've recently decided to take on the challenge of building a computer by myself. This is the first time I've done anything like this and I have no experience at all, I've picked some parts off of newegg and I wanted to ask you guys if the parts would work well together. I've read up on computer parts but that's about it so if I'm missing something or if something isn't gonna work, please tell me. I'm mainly going to be using this computer for gaming and movie watching. (I'm not sure what to post in terms of specs so I'll post everything that seems important, sorry if it seems messy )
Processer:
Intel Core i7-860 Lynnfield 2.8GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor
-95W -45nm -model: BX80605I7860
link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … -_-Product
Motherboard:
Intel BOXDP55KG LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard
-SATA 3Gb/s storage - 1 PCIe 2.0 x16 1 PCI x8 1PCI x4 1PCI x2 2 PCI -Memory: 4x240 pin DDR3 1600/1333/1066
-XMP Supports overclocking beyond 1333 MHz. -Up to 16GB memory supported. -ATX 12.0 x 9.6 -24pin
link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 0BOXDP55KG
Video Card:
PNY GeForce 9800 GTX+ 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16
(Seems this card is pretty popular so I'm not gonna post the specs, but if you need them just request it and I'll post it)
link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … -_-Product
RAM:
Crucial Ballistix Tracer 2GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
-1.65V
link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … -_-Product
Power Supply:
CORSAIR 750W ATX12V
- Type: ATX12V / EPS12V -750W -1 x 140mm fan -Connecter: 20+4 Pin -single +12V Rails
- Input Current: 10A Input voltage: 100 - 240 V -PCI Express Connector: 4 x 6+2-Pin -SATA power connector: 8 -8 Peripheral
link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … -_-Product
Hard Drive:
SAMSUNG Spinpoint 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
- Specs in name
link:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152181&Tpk=SAMSUNG%20Spinpoint%20500GB%207200%20RPM%2016MB
CD/DVD Burner
SAMSUNG Black 5.25
-22X DVD+R - 8X DVD+RW -16X DVD+R DL 22X DVD-R -6X DVD-RW -12X DVD-RAM -16X DVD-ROM
- 48X CD-R -32X CD-RW -48X CD-ROM -2MB Cache
link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6827151176
Case:
Thermaltake Element S ATX midtower
-3x 5.25 -7x 3.5 -1x120mm front fan -1x140mm rear fan -1x 230mm Top fan
-21.3" x 9.1" x 19.9"
link:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133077&cm_re=Thermaltake_element-_-11-133-077-_-Product
*note: This is all I'm gonna be ordering, so if you think I need cables or anything at all, please tell me. Also if you think you could find something that'd work better with this rig or is cheaper, please don't hesitate to tell me.
Again, thanks for the help! I really appreciate it.
Processer:
Intel Core i7-860 Lynnfield 2.8GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor
-95W -45nm -model: BX80605I7860
link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … -_-Product
Motherboard:
Intel BOXDP55KG LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard
-SATA 3Gb/s storage - 1 PCIe 2.0 x16 1 PCI x8 1PCI x4 1PCI x2 2 PCI -Memory: 4x240 pin DDR3 1600/1333/1066
-XMP Supports overclocking beyond 1333 MHz. -Up to 16GB memory supported. -ATX 12.0 x 9.6 -24pin
link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 0BOXDP55KG
Video Card:
PNY GeForce 9800 GTX+ 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16
(Seems this card is pretty popular so I'm not gonna post the specs, but if you need them just request it and I'll post it)
link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … -_-Product
RAM:
Crucial Ballistix Tracer 2GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
-1.65V
link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … -_-Product
Power Supply:
CORSAIR 750W ATX12V
- Type: ATX12V / EPS12V -750W -1 x 140mm fan -Connecter: 20+4 Pin -single +12V Rails
- Input Current: 10A Input voltage: 100 - 240 V -PCI Express Connector: 4 x 6+2-Pin -SATA power connector: 8 -8 Peripheral
link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … -_-Product
Hard Drive:
SAMSUNG Spinpoint 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
- Specs in name
link:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152181&Tpk=SAMSUNG%20Spinpoint%20500GB%207200%20RPM%2016MB
CD/DVD Burner
SAMSUNG Black 5.25
-22X DVD+R - 8X DVD+RW -16X DVD+R DL 22X DVD-R -6X DVD-RW -12X DVD-RAM -16X DVD-ROM
- 48X CD-R -32X CD-RW -48X CD-ROM -2MB Cache
link: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6827151176
Case:
Thermaltake Element S ATX midtower
-3x 5.25 -7x 3.5 -1x120mm front fan -1x140mm rear fan -1x 230mm Top fan
-21.3" x 9.1" x 19.9"
link:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133077&cm_re=Thermaltake_element-_-11-133-077-_-Product
*note: This is all I'm gonna be ordering, so if you think I need cables or anything at all, please tell me. Also if you think you could find something that'd work better with this rig or is cheaper, please don't hesitate to tell me.
Again, thanks for the help! I really appreciate it.
Yea that's what I've been told. I just wanted to know if there was a card that would run BF2 on my comp for awhile before I could buy a new comp. I could definitly get a graphics card but the computer would probably be 2-6months. GUess I'll have to learn to be patient =P thanks for all the help!DeathUnlimited wrote:
That mobo indeed seems to have 2xPCI and one PCI-E x1 slot.
In my opinion getting a PCI or PCI-E x1 graphics card for gaming is really just not worth it. It might somewhat run BF2 but not well, and any newer games would struggle.
You would be able to get a new motherboard and a much better PCI-E graphics card for just a bit more, but the question is: Do you want to reinstall the CPU and the cooler as well as other less significant parts. Your case might also not be ATX-standard and thus the mobo wouldn't fit in etc...
If I were you I'd either scavenge ebay for some cheap dell mobo that supports your CPU and memory and has a PCI-E x16 slot and get a PCI-E graphics card to go along with it for now and then get a whole new system later. Or just get a new system right off if you have the money to spend. Your current one just hardly cuts it for gaming use anymore
Thanks lol =P
I don't think so, I believe the only slots are a PCI x1 and PCIe x1. Do you know which one is better of the two?Pubic wrote:
Do you have any AGP slots free? I know its older tech, but it could offer more options.
Yea I looked at the specs and it is a crap load better. But it's PCI Express x16 =\ and I have a old mobo that doesn't support that. So I have to look in the PCI x1 catagories.Pubic wrote:
I used to run BF2 on a GEforce 6600 AGP 256MB, which is worse than an 8400 GS according to this.
For that price, I think you'd be better off spending the money on a radeon 4650. I have one of these and it walks all over my previous card (a 7600 GS), and beats the 8400 GS quite nicely too.
Also, it runs Far Cry pretty good too (got this + ghost recon for 25NZD on the weekend).
You'll see on that last gpureview link that the 4650 can put through a shitload of texels - texels are basically the simple shapes that build a 3D model, and are usually triangles. If you look at this comparison, the 4650 is in the same ballpark as the 4850 in that regard. Definitely good bang for buck.
Hope this helps.
I've been reading the reviews on newegg regarding the two cards and they say that the GeForce 8400 GS 512MB works well with dual monitors and video but fails in the gaming department. Also the GeForce 6200 256MB apparently works well with games and PC's just not the E310. Any ideas on why those could be? Sorry if I'm being too cautious but I just don't want to waste time on something that wouldn't work. =\
Thanks
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That's OK with me, I just wanna play lol. Sorry for extending this but I was reading another forum and they were saying this card:jord wrote:
Yeah sure, I was first in vehicles as I ran most things on low, and I had view distance maxed out too. Depends if you're used to having it on maxed out or not. No lag at all, just low settings.VYWang wrote:
Was the game playable/enjoyable?jord wrote:
I've had this POS 7 years and it ran bf2. just.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … -_-Product
However they were split on whether it was PCIe or PCI. The name says PCI but some people said they had the card and it was a PCIe, what do you guys think?
Was the game playable/enjoyable?jord wrote:
I've had this POS 7 years and it ran bf2. just.Pochsy wrote:
It'll do it on all high. I used the same card in a laptop (8400 GS-M) for 2 years and never had a problem.
So I have a pretty bad computer (E310) that only supports PCI x1 and PCIe x1 (not x16) and I've been wanting to upgrade my graphics card because it's the only thing keeping me back. Can anyone tell me if the following graphics card will run BF2 on low-medium graphics?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … ics%20Card
Thanks!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … ics%20Card
Thanks!
Ok, here's the definition from dictionary.com (I'm not saying you have to agree with it, I'm just using it)
Sport: an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature.
Hunting then should be a considered a sport since a) it is an athletic activity and b) it requires skill and c) you are competing against the prey, nature, and possibly other hunters.
Sport: an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature.
Hunting then should be a considered a sport since a) it is an athletic activity and b) it requires skill and c) you are competing against the prey, nature, and possibly other hunters.