Because Belgium plays the "big boss" of EU. But here is a newsflash: you don't! I really don't know what we are doing in EU. We should leave it fast. Sweden doesn't need commands from Italy, belgium, germany, holland etc. A Scandinavian union would be more preferableRosse_modest wrote:
What the hell does that have to do with my support for the Union?MajorGeneral wrote:
That for ones in history your more than a motorway between France and Germany.Rosse_modest wrote:
How surprising? What exactly are you implying?
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That for ones in history your more than a motorway between France and Germany.Rosse_modest wrote:
How surprising? What exactly are you implying?
No, I don't mean to throw money to Africa. Let's just NOT throw money to EUROPEAN farmers and let them compete with african. I bet that the european farmers would loose. Why? Because african agricultural products are much better and cheaper. Who would buy crappy expensive frenchie goods?Rosse_modest wrote:
How surprising? What exactly are you implying?MajorGeneral wrote:
Remember that Sweden has a population that is 9 million and Germany has 80 million. In other words we pay way more in percent than Germany. And what do WE get? Nothing! You just moan when we refuse to join the currency(Euro).Jepeto87 wrote:
The EU's great, my country was like one of those "ex-commie countries " about 20 years ago broke and going nowhere fast, thanks to EU money and incentives we're one of the richest countrys in Europe (in GNP).
The new member states are'nt getting half the money previous new members got so I dont see how there milking us. Anyway how much funding does Sweden give to the EU compared to Germany for example! I dont think Sweden's hurting to much
I've seen a lot of wankers here complain about how much money they're giving to the EU all the time. Let me tell you: Not a single country in the Union wouldn't amount to shit today if it wasn't for the EU, most would probably be somewhere in the company of Albania in terms of wealth and prosperity.
And pulling away subsidies form European farmers and throwing all the money in the world at Africa isn't going to change anything over there.
Wouldn't it make the poor, poor french farmers even more poor? Well, I don't give a flying s**t about frenchie farmers. All I want is cheaper products! And this can be achieved by taking away the economical support for the frenchies.
Remember that Sweden has a population that is 9 million and Germany has 80 million. In other words we pay way more in percent than Germany. And what do WE get? Nothing! You just moan when we refuse to join the currency(Euro).Jepeto87 wrote:
The EU's great, my country was like one of those "ex-commie countries " about 20 years ago broke and going nowhere fast, thanks to EU money and incentives we're one of the richest countrys in Europe (in GNP).MajorGeneral wrote:
Wow, how surprising that a belgian speak well about the EU:...Rosse_modest wrote:
Yeah, let those insolent bastards rot away in poverty. Let's do nothing to help these countries, and their people, get out of the shitpool.
*cough*
Sweden has no use of the EU really. In the east we got the commies and in the west we have french and spanish farmers eager to get more support fron EU just because their products are really nothing more than trash. You want to eliminate poverty? Then EU today isn't the way. African countries that have better agricultural products can't compete with EU farmers because of the heavy economical support they have. In fact EU exports trashie frenchie products to Africa just to get rid of the leftovers! And this is seriously damaging African economy. Instead of having fair competition we help frenchies by giving them money...
P.S. The euro is the biggest BS since Hitler.
The new member states are'nt getting half the money previous new members got so I dont see how there milking us. Anyway how much funding does Sweden give to the EU compared to Germany for example! I dont think Sweden's hurting to much
Wow, how surprising that a belgian speak well about the EU:...Rosse_modest wrote:
Yeah, let those insolent bastards rot away in poverty. Let's do nothing to help these countries, and their people, get out of the shitpool.MajorGeneral wrote:
The new EU members that are milking us on money give us a bad name! I mean wtf? Our taxes go to poor ex-commie countries as:
Cyprus
Czech Republic
Estonia
Hungary
Latvia
Lithuania
Malta
Poland
Slovakia
Slovenia
Let them join the russians instead, we don't need them
*cough*
Sweden has no use of the EU really. In the east we got the commies and in the west we have french and spanish farmers eager to get more support fron EU just because their products are really nothing more than trash. You want to eliminate poverty? Then EU today isn't the way. African countries that have better agricultural products can't compete with EU farmers because of the heavy economical support they have. In fact EU exports trashie frenchie products to Africa just to get rid of the leftovers! And this is seriously damaging African economy. Instead of having fair competition we help frenchies by giving them money...
P.S. The euro is the biggest BS since Hitler.
The new EU members that are milking us on money give us a bad name! I mean wtf? Our taxes go to poor ex-commie countries as:
Cyprus
Czech Republic
Estonia
Hungary
Latvia
Lithuania
Malta
Poland
Slovakia
Slovenia
Let them join the russians instead, we don't need them
Cyprus
Czech Republic
Estonia
Hungary
Latvia
Lithuania
Malta
Poland
Slovakia
Slovenia
Let them join the russians instead, we don't need them
Me: 0 gold, 0 silver, 0 bronze - Inhabitant: 1, me...
People who deny the fact that an airplane crashed into WTC should also be jailed for grande stupidity.jonnykill wrote:
For all intents and purposes people who deny the Holocaust are thrown in jail because it is a crime , not too sure about the laws in the US , so if I were you I would just simply STFU .MajorGeneral wrote:
Oh, I'm surely going to belive that a documentary done by teenagers(?) and put on the internet is nothing else than true. Oh, and by the way: I have reliable evidence that WW2 never infact took place! For example: Who is this Hitler dude? The fact is that he is a CIA agent working for NNS(an über secret organisation that President Washington started). 1935 december 12, FDR issued the order 76. This order proves that WW2 was just fictional. If you don't belive me read:
www.absolutelyreliableconspiracytheorie … ace&BS
Im far right. By swedish standards I'm even fascist... But then again there are many commies here=(
According to american standards I would be republican but not as much religious as some... Though my view on economics would be classified 'republican'.
According to american standards I would be republican but not as much religious as some... Though my view on economics would be classified 'republican'.
Oh, I'm surely going to belive that a documentary done by teenagers(?) and put on the internet is nothing else than true. Oh, and by the way: I have reliable evidence that WW2 never infact took place! For example: Who is this Hitler dude? The fact is that he is a CIA agent working for NNS(an über secret organisation that President Washington started). 1935 december 12, FDR issued the order 76. This order proves that WW2 was just fictional. If you don't belive me read:
www.absolutelyreliableconspiracytheorie … ace&BS
www.absolutelyreliableconspiracytheorie … ace&BS
lab raport? Sounds more like an essay to me.
No damn it, you missed it all. It is "The Patriots". A reason for them to proceed with development of Metal Gear...
Since when was Europe unified? I mean what is this "Europe" thing. The EU? Scandinavia? It's like saying: it's Asias time to kick "sum" ass...Sh1fty2k5 wrote:
Sorry dude, it's europes time to kick sum ASS!!!!!!Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:
Let's just hope they don't do it before we can get rid of that retard, George "Bring 'em on" Bush!
Someone who hasn't unterstood the topic.
Someone who falsely thinks that dutch society is supreme and elite.
Someone who maybe have played Bladurs Gate II
Iz a loverz ofz polarbearz
And for the other BS xanthpi wrote:
Again you tend to rely to much of your translation of the Quran to use arguments. If I wanted I could prove really anything with any religious script. So please do not use that kind of arguments. And the thing that buggs me most is that you think that you have the true description of a real muslim. How come? You have read parts of the Quran??? Hurray, that makes you an intellectual racist or what? I myself can claim Winston Churcill to be a madman for the things he said about democracy and Mahatma Ghandi and take certain quotes out of context and claim that infact he was equally evil as Hitler and Stalin. But is it the truth? No, because then I have just done like you. A sentence from a scripture here and there and you think that you have proven anything...
Again you tend to rely to much of your translation of the Quran to use arguments. If I wanted I could prove really anything with any religious script. So please do not use that kind of arguments. And the thing that buggs me most is that you think that you have the true description of a real muslim. How come? You have read parts of the Quran??? Hurray, that makes you an intellectual racist or what? I myself can claim Winston Churcill to be a madman for the things he said about democracy and Mahatma Ghandi and take certain quotes out of context and claim that infact he was equally evil as Hitler and Stalin. But is it the truth? No, because then I have just done like you. A sentence from a scripture here and there and you think that you have proven anything...
xanthpi:
"X: Here's the bit where I tell you to take more notice in biology class. YOU DON'T NEED TO DO AN AUTOPSY ON A PERSON TO FIND OUT WHAT THEIR MENTAL STATE WAS. Frontal lobe epilepsy, like many other mental illnesses, is diagnosable by a person's behavior.
Jesus and Muhammad (and many, many more people who claimed prophethood) displayed the symptoms of FLE, ergo that is what they suffered from. Since prophets DO NOT ACTUALLY EXIST, it is madness to claim to be one of them."
I know that mister biology teacher. But to claim that someone has a mental illness based on religious text written well over a thousand years ago is just kind of ... idiotic. Because much of Jesus life was written down by people after his death. Therefor the source isn't reliable. And besides no true doctor would ever only accept descriptions of behaviour to recognise an illness. Especially not descriptions that was made over a millenia ago. If prophets do exist or not I cannot judge because I haven't ever seen one. Personally I don't really belive in that but a religous person does. So there really is no point discussing this.
"X: Here's the bit where I tell you to take more notice in biology class. YOU DON'T NEED TO DO AN AUTOPSY ON A PERSON TO FIND OUT WHAT THEIR MENTAL STATE WAS. Frontal lobe epilepsy, like many other mental illnesses, is diagnosable by a person's behavior.
Jesus and Muhammad (and many, many more people who claimed prophethood) displayed the symptoms of FLE, ergo that is what they suffered from. Since prophets DO NOT ACTUALLY EXIST, it is madness to claim to be one of them."
I know that mister biology teacher. But to claim that someone has a mental illness based on religious text written well over a thousand years ago is just kind of ... idiotic. Because much of Jesus life was written down by people after his death. Therefor the source isn't reliable. And besides no true doctor would ever only accept descriptions of behaviour to recognise an illness. Especially not descriptions that was made over a millenia ago. If prophets do exist or not I cannot judge because I haven't ever seen one. Personally I don't really belive in that but a religous person does. So there really is no point discussing this.
Took 15 minutes, lol I know. I planned to play BF2 but couldn't find a good server. So what the check: spend an hour here instead. Besides I have to train my debating skills for school.{HMS}_Sir_Del_Boy wrote:
Whoa there m8. Chill. Looks like you've got too much free time on your hands. How long did it take you to put all that together by the way?MajorGeneral wrote:
MajorGeneral wrote:
You have not proven anything really.No You Have not. By using portions of a book that was written more than a thousand years ago you try to make the arabian people and culture seem "lesser" than the western way of life.Xanthpi wrote:
Yes I have.MajorGeneral wrote:
I have a close friend that is from Palestine, a really nice guy. Even if he is a muslim he never asked me about my personal beliefs. Actually he knowes that I am an atheist. Has he hurt or been unfriendly towards me for that? No.No, blame yourself for making me bring that up. You say that "they" want us to convert and stuff...Xanthpi wrote:
Is this the same as when people say "I'm not racist - I have a black friend!"?.MajorGeneral wrote:
And don't start saying that he isn't a true muslim. He follows the islamic teachings as good as he can.And that you base on?Xanthpi wrote:
Obviously not.MajorGeneral wrote:
To be a part of a religion you don't need to follo every old rule in the book.Don't you think that your previous statement contradicts this one? Because you have set up some "rules" how a true muslim is...Xanthpi wrote:
Absolutely true.MajorGeneral wrote:
According to your reasoning even the pope wouldn't be a true christian.Oh but you forget that there is sunni and shia muslims to...Xanthpi wrote:
Does anyone actually think that he is a true Christian? I thought he was a Catholic.MajorGeneral wrote:
I feel sorry that you feel so much hate towards people of other religionsWell that I belive you...Xanthpi wrote:
One religion in particular, actually.MajorGeneral wrote:
and races.Nope, because you tend to connect the majority of the middle east people with terrorism, isn't that rascism?Xanthpi wrote:
Never have I said I hate people of other races. You just made that up, didn't you.MajorGeneral wrote:
This may come as a surpriseto you but there really is nice people from Africa, South America and even your object of hate: Middle East.Oh I forgot you only hate 1 billion muslims. Oh, pardon me, then it is OK!Xanthpi wrote:
You really haven't understood this thread at all have you.MajorGeneral wrote:
bringing upp old quotes from Winston Churchill isn't in anyway relevant.Sure, though his credibility is not that great after reading the other weird quotes.Xanthpi wrote:
Oh yes it is, in the context of critisising Islam.MajorGeneral wrote:
This man though that even democracy wasn't that OK and he utterly disliked Mahatma Ghandi.Yep, though not today. The thing is that I wanted to prove was that Winston Churcill's credibility isn't one of the best.Xanthpi wrote:
So your logic is that if someone is wrong about something then they must be wrong about everything. Back to school for you, son.MajorGeneral wrote:
We should reflect on the future not on the past.Excuse my poor english. The thing I meant was that we need to think about the future a little more than we tend to. For example: If some (like you for instence) just feels hate and nothing else towards a whole people what will it then lead to? Say that this hate grows between people. Then the world would probably see another world war. And we don't want that, I at least hope so... And yes again I am going to school but not for a good while...Xanthpi wrote:
How can one reflect on something which has not happened yet. You really, really do need to go back to school.MajorGeneral wrote:
Nuking someone may not be the right way to a stable society.Actually you can exchange the word fo anything else of your ideas how to solve "problems" with a multicultural society.Xanthpi wrote:
Why are you talking about nuking?MajorGeneral wrote:
You say that Mohammed was a madman?Okey, I guess that's your opinion then...Xanthpi wrote:
Yes!MajorGeneral wrote:
What about Jesus then? He claimed that not only was he a son of God but also God.Oh, you made a medical study of a person that you even can't find the corpses after. And please show some respect for others beliefs and do not say those things even if you are an atheist or whatever...Xanthpi wrote:
Well both Jesus and Muhammad had frontal lobe epilepsy so maybe both of them are up there in heaven talking to teapots and smelling each others' bottoms.MajorGeneral wrote:
At least it seems that the same ol' arguments are used all over again.educating us in what, hate?Xanthpi wrote:
Go and read, and understand the thread and I wouldn't have to keep on educating people such as yourself.MajorGeneral wrote:
// A peaceful and tolerant personThere you go, these invasions you talk about. Really, when are they comming. Enslaved? Ok...Xanthpi wrote:
And one whose country would be invaded and enslaved were you the commander in chief.
Should I remind you of who enslaved whom?
And the best way is to start with racist noobs, anyone can hack their arguments into pieces:D
Actually I am afraid that we would be saying Heil Stalin... not heil hitler. Without USA the USSR would have defeated Germany because they had an army bigger than americas and Germany + allies together... That is a lot. I am thankful towards USA for that reason. OMG having Stalin as Führer of Europe.. lolzorHorseman 77 wrote:
The French help in The Revolution but it was a different kind of war They kicked our ass but knew it was a waste of time. They let there other colonys go also eventually. We didnt need the French to win but we love them for it.jedijz wrote:
Well, if history has taught us anything...http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/text/france.htmlSrA_Shady wrote:
well, the way I see it, we've paid that debt back 1000 times over. After all if not for the US, today, the whole of Europe would be saying 'heil hitler'
Hey Frenchies you should see all the things here named after Lafayette and Rochamboue
No, but think of this: the next time the russians come the americans wont be there to save you.
And belive me they will come again someday. Not for revenge but to take over it all. Damn it, the russians even have military training jointly with China. Now THAT'S a scary alliance that i wouldn't oppose... Italy and Germany during the WW2 ain't even shit compared to this new possible threat...
And belive me they will come again someday. Not for revenge but to take over it all. Damn it, the russians even have military training jointly with China. Now THAT'S a scary alliance that i wouldn't oppose... Italy and Germany during the WW2 ain't even shit compared to this new possible threat...
before anyone acusses me of comparing Nazi Germany and U.S.A. i have one thing to say: It was just a joke.
In the beginning I was one of few that supported the American war on Iraq in my country. Seriously there is like 5 percent that supports the war.
The joke was for the america-haters everwhere. Damn, they even blame America for greater evil than the USSR!
But I am not sure anymore if I support the war. The reason is not the WMD but the iraqi insurgency. It costs america tremendously in human lifes. The problem is that this country in fact never had a democracy, so is it realistic that USA barely any help from other countries can develope Iraq to be a real democracy? No.
If the U.N. stopped bitching and helped out more it would work.
The EU also doesn't support the war as a whole(besides Britain of course). But then again the EU isn't anything really. It is an organisation which makes the little country Belgium feel proud over their "leading" role in it. The organisation is only effective in one way and that is making Africa even more poor with special money aid to french "bloodthirsty" farmers. As fast as you start debating their aid, the farmers take their tractors and start whining: "Think of our children, we need that kind of support... bla bla bla".
In the beginning I was one of few that supported the American war on Iraq in my country. Seriously there is like 5 percent that supports the war.
The joke was for the america-haters everwhere. Damn, they even blame America for greater evil than the USSR!
But I am not sure anymore if I support the war. The reason is not the WMD but the iraqi insurgency. It costs america tremendously in human lifes. The problem is that this country in fact never had a democracy, so is it realistic that USA barely any help from other countries can develope Iraq to be a real democracy? No.
If the U.N. stopped bitching and helped out more it would work.
The EU also doesn't support the war as a whole(besides Britain of course). But then again the EU isn't anything really. It is an organisation which makes the little country Belgium feel proud over their "leading" role in it. The organisation is only effective in one way and that is making Africa even more poor with special money aid to french "bloodthirsty" farmers. As fast as you start debating their aid, the farmers take their tractors and start whining: "Think of our children, we need that kind of support... bla bla bla".
What is the difference between Nazi Germany and U.S.A.?
The germans could point out the countries they were invading on a map.
The germans could point out the countries they were invading on a map.
What is statpadding?
MajorGeneral wrote:
You have not proven anything really.
No You Have not. By using portions of a book that was written more than a thousand years ago you try to make the arabian people and culture seem "lesser" than the western way of life.Xanthpi wrote:
Yes I have.
MajorGeneral wrote:
I have a close friend that is from Palestine, a really nice guy. Even if he is a muslim he never asked me about my personal beliefs. Actually he knowes that I am an atheist. Has he hurt or been unfriendly towards me for that? No.
No, blame yourself for making me bring that up. You say that "they" want us to convert and stuff...Xanthpi wrote:
Is this the same as when people say "I'm not racist - I have a black friend!"?.
MajorGeneral wrote:
And don't start saying that he isn't a true muslim. He follows the islamic teachings as good as he can.
And that you base on?Xanthpi wrote:
Obviously not.
MajorGeneral wrote:
To be a part of a religion you don't need to follo every old rule in the book.
Don't you think that your previous statement contradicts this one? Because you have set up some "rules" how a true muslim is...Xanthpi wrote:
Absolutely true.
MajorGeneral wrote:
According to your reasoning even the pope wouldn't be a true christian.
Oh but you forget that there is sunni and shia muslims to...Xanthpi wrote:
Does anyone actually think that he is a true Christian? I thought he was a Catholic.
MajorGeneral wrote:
I feel sorry that you feel so much hate towards people of other religions
Well that I belive you...Xanthpi wrote:
One religion in particular, actually.
MajorGeneral wrote:
and races.
Nope, because you tend to connect the majority of the middle east people with terrorism, isn't that rascism?Xanthpi wrote:
Never have I said I hate people of other races. You just made that up, didn't you.
MajorGeneral wrote:
This may come as a surpriseto you but there really is nice people from Africa, South America and even your object of hate: Middle East.
Oh I forgot you only hate 1 billion muslims. Oh, pardon me, then it is OK!Xanthpi wrote:
You really haven't understood this thread at all have you.
MajorGeneral wrote:
bringing upp old quotes from Winston Churchill isn't in anyway relevant.
Sure, though his credibility is not that great after reading the other weird quotes.Xanthpi wrote:
Oh yes it is, in the context of critisising Islam.
MajorGeneral wrote:
This man though that even democracy wasn't that OK and he utterly disliked Mahatma Ghandi.
Yep, though not today. The thing is that I wanted to prove was that Winston Churcill's credibility isn't one of the best.Xanthpi wrote:
So your logic is that if someone is wrong about something then they must be wrong about everything. Back to school for you, son.
MajorGeneral wrote:
We should reflect on the future not on the past.
Excuse my poor english. The thing I meant was that we need to think about the future a little more than we tend to. For example: If some (like you for instence) just feels hate and nothing else towards a whole people what will it then lead to? Say that this hate grows between people. Then the world would probably see another world war. And we don't want that, I at least hope so... And yes again I am going to school but not for a good while...Xanthpi wrote:
How can one reflect on something which has not happened yet. You really, really do need to go back to school.
MajorGeneral wrote:
Nuking someone may not be the right way to a stable society.
Actually you can exchange the word fo anything else of your ideas how to solve "problems" with a multicultural society.Xanthpi wrote:
Why are you talking about nuking?
MajorGeneral wrote:
You say that Mohammed was a madman?
Okey, I guess that's your opinion then...Xanthpi wrote:
Yes!
MajorGeneral wrote:
What about Jesus then? He claimed that not only was he a son of God but also God.
Oh, you made a medical study of a person that you even can't find the corpses after. And please show some respect for others beliefs and do not say those things even if you are an atheist or whatever...Xanthpi wrote:
Well both Jesus and Muhammad had frontal lobe epilepsy so maybe both of them are up there in heaven talking to teapots and smelling each others' bottoms.
MajorGeneral wrote:
At least it seems that the same ol' arguments are used all over again.
educating us in what, hate?Xanthpi wrote:
Go and read, and understand the thread and I wouldn't have to keep on educating people such as yourself.
MajorGeneral wrote:
// A peaceful and tolerant person
There you go, these invasions you talk about. Really, when are they comming. Enslaved? Ok...Xanthpi wrote:
And one whose country would be invaded and enslaved were you the commander in chief.
Should I remind you of who enslaved whom?
If I remember my history correctly the french saved your ass from the brits. Without their support in the war you would maybe drink tea and salute the queen today.SrA_Shady wrote:
The french are not respected by me due to their stunt regarding Iraq and telling the US to basically fuck off.. all this after we bailed them out from the hands of tyranny.....
First of all xanthpi, who might you be to say who a true muslim is? You base it on a single sentence in the Quran. The truth is thatt you can justify any argument by taking out small sentences here and there from any religious book and say: "here is my proof, read this and this sentence and you'll clearly see it". You have not proven anything really. I have a close friend that is from Palestine, a really nice guy. Even if he is a muslim he never asked me about my personal beliefs. Actually he knowes that I am an atheist. Has he hurt or been unfriendly towards me for that? No. And don't start saying that he isn't a true muslim. He follows the islamic teachings as good as he can. To be a part of a religion you don't need to follo every old rule in the book. According to your reasoning even the pope wouldn't be a true christian. And besides how christian is it to buy expensive gifts for christmas while millions of PEOPLE of all religions starve to death around the world. I feel sorry that you feel so much hate towards people of other religions and races. This may come as a surpriseto you but there really is nice people from Africa, South America and even your object of hate: Middle East. bringing upp old quotes from Winston Churchill isn't in anyway relevant. This man though that even democracy wasn't that OK and he utterly disliked Mahatma Ghandi. We should reflect on the future not on the past. Nuking someone may not be the right way to a stable society. You say that Mohammed was a madman? What about Jesus then? He claimed that not only was he a son of God but also God. To christians this is not weird but for me (an atheist) it is... We can debate this issue til the end of time and even then not reach any closer to an agreement... At least it seems that the same ol' arguments are used all over again.
// A peaceful and tolerant person
// A peaceful and tolerant person