I agree w/ oneshot. I have had more crashes and "Connection Problems" in the last week than ever before. It's almost like it is having a snowball effect...as time goes on each crash causes another crash and so on...until...?
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ftw? For the Win? or backwards wtf?
In other words are you agreeing or disagreeing?
In other words are you agreeing or disagreeing?
LOL...
Desert Fox with 4 hrs in a helo is going to tell us how lame flying with a mouse and keyboard is....
I'll take you on any time my friend, flying my lame way....
Desert Fox with 4 hrs in a helo is going to tell us how lame flying with a mouse and keyboard is....
I'll take you on any time my friend, flying my lame way....
My thoughts exactly.....Below_Cost wrote:
That one was my favorite... but it should have been worded more like:ExtremeSpy506 wrote:
-If you are a bad pilot shooter, fly the highest you can. That way, an enemy chopper won't attack you, nor a ground defense gun will.
-If you are a bad pilot shooter, fly the highest you can. Hide like the little girl you are, nobody will shoot the little girl hiding.
or
-If you are a bad pilot shooter, get the fuck out of the helicopter and let someone who is good fly, then leave the server, open up the single player mode, and practice.
"Even if I was a 12 year old I wouldn't be that stupid of BF2."ExtremeSpy506 wrote:
Snowytheman:
Ok, If you wanna see my skills, go ahead. I don't care. Even if I was a 12 year old I wouldn't be that stupid of BF2.
Is English your 3rd language or something? Your profile says you're from San Jose, CA....
Name the ranked server....I'll be there.
Your Helo stats: Helicopter 11:26:05 230 332 0.7620 23
My Helo stats: Helicopter 160:18:13 6,080 3,754 1.8263 776
Yep...you caught me...I'm a noob...ExtremeSpy506 wrote:
Not for me! READ THE REST! ARE YOU THAT MUCH OF A NOOB? I SAID TO HOVER HIGH FOR A REASON![CF]Snowytheman wrote:
"If you're not a good pilot fly really high" ??
What the hell does that do? So you're up really high hovering around, that's great advice! You just took a valuable asset away from the rest of your team so you can play around in the stratosphere...
BTW jets WILL attack you up high...
If you want to LEARN how to fly...play single player for a while...you learn in a safe and unmolested environment ( your computer won't call you a NOOB and snipe you to get you out of the pilot seat while you are learning ).
ALSO....don't write a guide to something if you only have 11hrs doing it. I wrote a helo guide for 1.2 after I had my Vet Helo.
12 year olds...what are you gonna do?
I believe you are refering to Andy Kaufman (aka Latka Gravas on the show Taxi, aka Tony Clifton). You could be right....he does show the naivete of Latka and the beligerent know-it-allness of Tony, however, I just don't get the sense of that kind of intelligence from his posts. Also, his stats leave a lot to be desired...rawls wrote:
How can none of you guys get the joke. Hes like that guy from the seventies, a comedian. What was his name? Oh never mind.I liked that, that was good shit. A golf ball. LOLExtremeSpy506 wrote:
No, Like this:
You'll turn around, then people jump, and just before they land on ground the tail of the helicopter hits the guy, which causes a tk. Its like the person you TK-ed was a golf ball and the helicopter was the club
"If you're not a good pilot fly really high" ??
What the hell does that do? So you're up really high hovering around, that's great advice! You just took a valuable asset away from the rest of your team so you can play around in the stratosphere...
BTW jets WILL attack you up high...
If you want to LEARN how to fly...play single player for a while...you learn in a safe and unmolested environment ( your computer won't call you a NOOB and snipe you to get you out of the pilot seat while you are learning ).
ALSO....don't write a guide to something if you only have 11hrs doing it. I wrote a helo guide for 1.2 after I had my Vet Helo.
What the hell does that do? So you're up really high hovering around, that's great advice! You just took a valuable asset away from the rest of your team so you can play around in the stratosphere...
BTW jets WILL attack you up high...
If you want to LEARN how to fly...play single player for a while...you learn in a safe and unmolested environment ( your computer won't call you a NOOB and snipe you to get you out of the pilot seat while you are learning ).
ALSO....don't write a guide to something if you only have 11hrs doing it. I wrote a helo guide for 1.2 after I had my Vet Helo.
Chargers!
The Faiders....please...
The Faiders....please...
Leave it to an Irishman to tell it like it is...
i do...usually on War is Hell! or Trust-Co...also CCH Road Rage aka Crazed Crack Heads
You are correct now RedArmy, the box just helps you see where the missle impact will be while you are moving the crosshairs around...
Nice work. One thing though...the weak spot on choppers for the machine gun is the engine area. Get behind and blast away at that area and the enemy chopper is toast.
Your stats say you have less than 100 points??
My chopper guide from the 1.2 patch: http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=14897
Holds true still except for enemy AA hitting enemy chopper...very rare now.
Your stats say you have less than 100 points??
My chopper guide from the 1.2 patch: http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=14897
Holds true still except for enemy AA hitting enemy chopper...very rare now.
Belittle
A transitive verb meaning 'to make fun of' or 'to degrade'
It is English...
A transitive verb meaning 'to make fun of' or 'to degrade'
It is English...
Back on topic....
I have been playing support alot lately, and I try to play it like a true military machine gunner....fire for suppression. That way my squad mates can attempt to flank and take out the enemy while I keep them down.
I have been playing support alot lately, and I try to play it like a true military machine gunner....fire for suppression. That way my squad mates can attempt to flank and take out the enemy while I keep them down.
Sry...just posted that for peeps who dont want to click through the whole thread...
From the wiki site........
Final results
Here is the text of "the truth" from the website after the countdown finished:
{eon8} Complete
As of July 1st, 2006, the E8 Project has completed. The purpose of this project was to determine the reactions of the internet public to lack of information.
History
The domain eon8.com was chosen, as it is short, easily remembered, and eon9 was already registered. It was originally posted on www.msfn.org, but was promptly removed as 'spam'. It was enough time for it to be copied to other forums throughout December 2005.
Results
We were amazed to discover that the site was instantly linked with terrorism, simply for the fact that it seems mysterious. Evil was the number one first impression people had of the site, in spite of the fact that there are no threats on the site. The only thing Eon 8 says is "We don't want you here". Nothing else. Other less disappointing opinions were social experimentation (which was correct), James Bond movie viral marketing, and promotions for video games. For many people, being faced with a countdown timer was an instant reason to try to shut down or hack the site. This is a worrying reaction, that if someone doesn't understand something they must destroy it. As a result, the servers have been hit quite hard these last few days, but luckily 99% of the 'hackers' could easily be described as 'l4me n00bs'. Another worrying example of paranoia was how quickly people would jump to conclusions, such as telephoning the registered owner of a dog seen in a photograph on a server that hosts a page that links to eon8. Surprises
The folks at Unfiction.com were the most resourceful and inventive, they successfully managed to decrypt several of the 'codes' on the site, forcing them to be re-encrypted using more secure methods.
FAQ
What about eon5.com? Nothing to do with us. Pure coincidence, but worked in our favor.
What about the 8th eon being the end of the world? We picked Eon 8 because Eon 9 was already taken. We didn't know about the significance of this. Eon is a cool sounding word!
Why July 1st? We didn't know how long it would take to get the word out using our subtle promotion methods. We allowed over 6 months.
What do the codes on the site mean? They're mostly randomly generated integers encrypted with md5, but with certain letters removed and replaced. The Logs page is simply based on the current timestamp, encrypted and modified. You can't decrypt them, they really are random numbers.
What is the Deployment Map? They're dots placed over major cities and several random locations, it was done mostly from memory. The random gif filename is an added touch to force a slight delay on loading, which looks more impressive in Internet Explorer, but not as much in Firefox.
What's the password? There isn't one. If you did somehow manage to get in, you'd see an empty folder with a single text file that says "This is a decoy folder. Please connect to the internal secure network".
Can I see your website statistics? Yes, click here.
Are you anything to do with Scientology? Did you see anything talking about a Free Personality Test or Xenu? Use your brain.
Who are you, really? The most I can tell you is I am a 23 year old web designer from Florida named Mike. I can't narrow it down anymore than that. When I say 'we', I really mean 'me'.
Conclusions
People take things too seriously and panic over the most trivial things. But at the same time there are many people out there who think things through without jumping to conclusions. You can't let pointless speculation rule your lives and force you to live in fear.
In Closing
Thanks to everyone who kept things interesting, especially to the folks at unfiction. Sorry there is no ARG for you to play, but at least you had fun while it lasted.
Final results
Here is the text of "the truth" from the website after the countdown finished:
{eon8} Complete
As of July 1st, 2006, the E8 Project has completed. The purpose of this project was to determine the reactions of the internet public to lack of information.
History
The domain eon8.com was chosen, as it is short, easily remembered, and eon9 was already registered. It was originally posted on www.msfn.org, but was promptly removed as 'spam'. It was enough time for it to be copied to other forums throughout December 2005.
Results
We were amazed to discover that the site was instantly linked with terrorism, simply for the fact that it seems mysterious. Evil was the number one first impression people had of the site, in spite of the fact that there are no threats on the site. The only thing Eon 8 says is "We don't want you here". Nothing else. Other less disappointing opinions were social experimentation (which was correct), James Bond movie viral marketing, and promotions for video games. For many people, being faced with a countdown timer was an instant reason to try to shut down or hack the site. This is a worrying reaction, that if someone doesn't understand something they must destroy it. As a result, the servers have been hit quite hard these last few days, but luckily 99% of the 'hackers' could easily be described as 'l4me n00bs'. Another worrying example of paranoia was how quickly people would jump to conclusions, such as telephoning the registered owner of a dog seen in a photograph on a server that hosts a page that links to eon8. Surprises
The folks at Unfiction.com were the most resourceful and inventive, they successfully managed to decrypt several of the 'codes' on the site, forcing them to be re-encrypted using more secure methods.
FAQ
What about eon5.com? Nothing to do with us. Pure coincidence, but worked in our favor.
What about the 8th eon being the end of the world? We picked Eon 8 because Eon 9 was already taken. We didn't know about the significance of this. Eon is a cool sounding word!
Why July 1st? We didn't know how long it would take to get the word out using our subtle promotion methods. We allowed over 6 months.
What do the codes on the site mean? They're mostly randomly generated integers encrypted with md5, but with certain letters removed and replaced. The Logs page is simply based on the current timestamp, encrypted and modified. You can't decrypt them, they really are random numbers.
What is the Deployment Map? They're dots placed over major cities and several random locations, it was done mostly from memory. The random gif filename is an added touch to force a slight delay on loading, which looks more impressive in Internet Explorer, but not as much in Firefox.
What's the password? There isn't one. If you did somehow manage to get in, you'd see an empty folder with a single text file that says "This is a decoy folder. Please connect to the internal secure network".
Can I see your website statistics? Yes, click here.
Are you anything to do with Scientology? Did you see anything talking about a Free Personality Test or Xenu? Use your brain.
Who are you, really? The most I can tell you is I am a 23 year old web designer from Florida named Mike. I can't narrow it down anymore than that. When I say 'we', I really mean 'me'.
Conclusions
People take things too seriously and panic over the most trivial things. But at the same time there are many people out there who think things through without jumping to conclusions. You can't let pointless speculation rule your lives and force you to live in fear.
In Closing
Thanks to everyone who kept things interesting, especially to the folks at unfiction. Sorry there is no ARG for you to play, but at least you had fun while it lasted.
Thx for the info....
34 married with a baby on the way. My generation grew up with the first video games, hell I remember playing Pong for the first time! I still have my Intellivision in my garage, haven't decided if I want to sell it on Ebay or hook it up to my garage TV...
I'll stop gaming when they pry my mouse from my cold, dead fingers!
I'll stop gaming when they pry my mouse from my cold, dead fingers!
I use the recons as a fast flag cap vehicle. Load up 2 other guys race to a rear enemy flag that noone is spawning at, and in abouit 7-10secs flag cap. Also, when I have my clan on with me I get 2 guys to be eng while I am resupply = one badass mine laying machine.
10 more hours for Expert Helo
29 kills + 30 IAR for Helo Combat Medal
Almost there....!
10 more hours for Expert Helo
29 kills + 30 IAR for Helo Combat Medal
Almost there....!
51 not sure how
Spawn
Beer would be much better.....
The Coke thing is just a saying.
Beer would be much better.....
The Coke thing is just a saying.
Here is some video of my flying skills...
Weak helo I know but someone TKed me for the Cobra and this is all that was left..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYlWEoN3 … mp;search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKPREi3T … mp;search=
Weak helo I know but someone TKed me for the Cobra and this is all that was left..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYlWEoN3 … mp;search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKPREi3T … mp;search=
Funny thing Spawn...I just noticed we both registered on the same day!
Jinx! You owe me a Coke! ( that may be lost in translation from American culture to Scotish )
Jinx! You owe me a Coke! ( that may be lost in translation from American culture to Scotish )
Hey, the more we post...the longer it stays up top for everyone to see....
THX for the clarification
I just know that it was big and wide and saved my ass from a few missles...
I just know that it was big and wide and saved my ass from a few missles...
I'm that lemon headed, terrorist, pussy helo pilot.....
I was just trying to avoid that damn Tunguska at the intersection of Main and Broadway. See he had this nice tall oak tree in his front yard that allowed me to keep from getting locked on.....
I was just trying to avoid that damn Tunguska at the intersection of Main and Broadway. See he had this nice tall oak tree in his front yard that allowed me to keep from getting locked on.....
I'm down for this I love playing in GOOD squads....
When you must constantly resist the temptation to say "Roger that" or "Negative" to every request made of you at work....
Roofus....are you a Class 3 FFL holder? If not they may be knocking on your door sooner than you think...but only if that MP5 was made after 1986.
"While many machine guns can be legally owned with a proper tax stamp from the BATFE, the Gun Owner's Protection Act of 1986 barred the transfer to civilians of machine guns made in the U.S. after May 19, 1986. The only exception was for Special Occupational Taxpayers (SOT): licensed machine gun dealers, manufacturers, and those dealing in exports and imports. As such, only the earliest Colt M4 prototypes built prior to May 19, 1986 would be legal to own by a non-SOT civilian. (Note: Civilian ownership of imported machine guns was limited to those imported prior to the enactment of the Gun Control Act of 1968.)"
California, New York, Delaware, Hawaii, Iowa, Kansas, Illinois, Michigan, Minnesota, Rhode Island , North and South Carolina, Washington (state) and Wash DC do not allow Class 3 Firearms. Most if not all states outlaw full auto weapons in game fields/ranges and forests.
Any hoo... re-read what I posted. If you go run down to your local beach with one of your machine guns you would be picked up fairly quickly by your local police dept. with possible SWAT assistance and thrown in jail until they figured the whole mess out....
Sorry for scewing OT here....but plz don't say I don't know what I am talking about. I have been a NRA Life Member since I was 12 (now 34), I think I know a bit about firearms and the associated laws.
"While many machine guns can be legally owned with a proper tax stamp from the BATFE, the Gun Owner's Protection Act of 1986 barred the transfer to civilians of machine guns made in the U.S. after May 19, 1986. The only exception was for Special Occupational Taxpayers (SOT): licensed machine gun dealers, manufacturers, and those dealing in exports and imports. As such, only the earliest Colt M4 prototypes built prior to May 19, 1986 would be legal to own by a non-SOT civilian. (Note: Civilian ownership of imported machine guns was limited to those imported prior to the enactment of the Gun Control Act of 1968.)"
California, New York, Delaware, Hawaii, Iowa, Kansas, Illinois, Michigan, Minnesota, Rhode Island , North and South Carolina, Washington (state) and Wash DC do not allow Class 3 Firearms. Most if not all states outlaw full auto weapons in game fields/ranges and forests.
Any hoo... re-read what I posted. If you go run down to your local beach with one of your machine guns you would be picked up fairly quickly by your local police dept. with possible SWAT assistance and thrown in jail until they figured the whole mess out....
Sorry for scewing OT here....but plz don't say I don't know what I am talking about. I have been a NRA Life Member since I was 12 (now 34), I think I know a bit about firearms and the associated laws.
"Personally, guns have no place in any society and only the army and controlled sports should be allowed them. America is kind of weird when it comes to gun laws; for example if two women walk onto a beach, one with an AK-47 and one with her top off the latter would be the one who gets arrested. Only in America is nudity viewed as worse than carrying a device designed to kill and main."
People don't get arrested here for being nude on the beach....a nice lifeguard drives up and asks them to please put their clothes back on. If you walk anywhere with an AK-47 you can expect to be arrested in short order as fully automatic weapons are illegal to posess anywhere in the US.
It amazes me that countries who have month long riots and people getting killed in sports stadiums by mobs have the gall to insinuate that the US needs more law and order...
During both major "riots" in the US, Watts 1965 LA 1993, they lasted less than a week. Why? Because armed citizens began to stand guard over their shops and property to prevent looting and destruction, while the police dealt with the larger mobs. France 2006 rioting lasts for 45+ days....police and government can do nothing, citizens get to stand around and watch their property get torched...
I'll take the ability to defend my family and property over government intervention anyday.
People don't get arrested here for being nude on the beach....a nice lifeguard drives up and asks them to please put their clothes back on. If you walk anywhere with an AK-47 you can expect to be arrested in short order as fully automatic weapons are illegal to posess anywhere in the US.
It amazes me that countries who have month long riots and people getting killed in sports stadiums by mobs have the gall to insinuate that the US needs more law and order...
During both major "riots" in the US, Watts 1965 LA 1993, they lasted less than a week. Why? Because armed citizens began to stand guard over their shops and property to prevent looting and destruction, while the police dealt with the larger mobs. France 2006 rioting lasts for 45+ days....police and government can do nothing, citizens get to stand around and watch their property get torched...
I'll take the ability to defend my family and property over government intervention anyday.
More boring stats from the violent USA:
States with RTC (right to carry concealed weapon) laws have lower violent crime rates. On average, 21% lower total violent crime, 28% lower murder, 43% lower robbery, and 13% lower aggravated assault, compared to the rest of the country. Nine of the 10 states with the lowest violent crime rates are RTC states. (Data: FBI.)
Crime declines in states with RTC laws. Since adopting RTC in 1987, Florida`s total violent crime and murder rates have dropped 31% and 52%, respectively. Texas` violent crime and murder rates have dropped 19% and 33%, respectively, since its 1996 RTC law. (Data: FBI.)
States with RTC (right to carry concealed weapon) laws have lower violent crime rates. On average, 21% lower total violent crime, 28% lower murder, 43% lower robbery, and 13% lower aggravated assault, compared to the rest of the country. Nine of the 10 states with the lowest violent crime rates are RTC states. (Data: FBI.)
Crime declines in states with RTC laws. Since adopting RTC in 1987, Florida`s total violent crime and murder rates have dropped 31% and 52%, respectively. Texas` violent crime and murder rates have dropped 19% and 33%, respectively, since its 1996 RTC law. (Data: FBI.)
I realize this is an old article, but statistics are statistics...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1440764.stm
Will knife crime follow the same trend?
Remember: "When (insert weapon name here) are outlawed, only outlaws will have (insert weapon name here)."
From the US:
"As firearm sales continue to rise, the US Department of Justice (DOJ) says the nations crime rate in 2004 remained at the lowest level in more than 30 years, reports the Associated Press. Since 1993, violent crime has fallen by 57 percent and property crime by 50 percent. Included is a 9 percent drop in violent crime between 2001-02 and 2003-04. The DOJs report also revealed that in 2004 less than 25 percent of all violent crimes were committed with a gun, knife or other instrument.--Courtesy NSSF"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1440764.stm
Will knife crime follow the same trend?
Remember: "When (insert weapon name here) are outlawed, only outlaws will have (insert weapon name here)."
From the US:
"As firearm sales continue to rise, the US Department of Justice (DOJ) says the nations crime rate in 2004 remained at the lowest level in more than 30 years, reports the Associated Press. Since 1993, violent crime has fallen by 57 percent and property crime by 50 percent. Included is a 9 percent drop in violent crime between 2001-02 and 2003-04. The DOJs report also revealed that in 2004 less than 25 percent of all violent crimes were committed with a gun, knife or other instrument.--Courtesy NSSF"
Slope of his "Overall Score per Minute" graph I believe....
Tips for flying after the 1.2 patch...
The guide to chopper piloting/gunning in the Wiki section worked great before the 1.2 patch, however I believe that following those rules of flying/gunning are a quick way to die now...
The new patch has made flying the choppers much more realistic. In real wartime situations helos are very powerful but extremely vunerable machines, especially when air superiority has not been established. If you have ever played Helo simulations you know that the instruction manual pounds NOE (Nap of the Earth) flying into your head. NOE flying requires you to fly as low and as fast as possible using all available terrain features to your advantage. Terrain features such as hills/mountains and buildings allow you to hover behind, assess threats, pop up long enough to get a shot off and then dropping back down before anyone can lock on. You only pop up to take out known targets, popping up otherwise is usually a quick way to die. As a pilot you MUST ALWAYS know where you are on the map at all times and what escape routes are available.
Before the patch taking on AA, be fixed or mobile, was pretty easy. Fly straight at them with all guns/missles blazing and 'poof' they were toast. After the patch this is a good way to find yourself back at the spawn point with 2 white trails still burning your retinas. Most of the fixed AA positions are behind some type of fortification, so if you are low enough they cannot get a lock on you. This allows for pretty free reign on most maps. If your gunner knows the map well you can easily stop behind a building/hill, pop up, watch as he launches a TV and then settle back down before the AA gunner knows what hit him. Also, CHECK YOUR MAP! If the icon for an AA emplacement is missing it is a pretty sure bet that it is manned, know this and avoid that area or take it out. The wild cards are the maps with mobile AA as these can be located almost anywhere. Flying low and fast around these weapons will not save you if they have positioned themselves on a hillside, but it will still make you harder to hit. Hopefully you have a good rapor with the jet pilots on your team and can get them to take these bastards out for you.
If you find yourself in a dogfight with another helo, after the obligatory long distance TV launch, close the gap ASAP. This will hopefully discourage the experienced AA gunner from shooting at you for fear of taking out his own chopper instead of you. If the AA persists in firing there are 2 courses of action you can take: continue dogfighting while dumping flares and side slipping (old style pre patch) or dump flares and dive with/into them leaving the other pilot high and dry with his own AA coming to get him (this has worked several times for me in the past couple days).
I would suggest staying away from the aerial acrobatics these days. Barrel rolls and loops may look cool but they do nothing against AA other than making you look like an expensive firework when you blow up.
I am not the best or most experienced pilot in BF2, but I have almost 100 hrs (93) under my belt and I fly with a mouse and keyboard. I expect to have my Vet badge by next weekend...Hey don't get on my case I am 34 with a wife and a job I can't play this game 24/7.
Let the suggestions/criticisms/flames BEGIN!
The guide to chopper piloting/gunning in the Wiki section worked great before the 1.2 patch, however I believe that following those rules of flying/gunning are a quick way to die now...
The new patch has made flying the choppers much more realistic. In real wartime situations helos are very powerful but extremely vunerable machines, especially when air superiority has not been established. If you have ever played Helo simulations you know that the instruction manual pounds NOE (Nap of the Earth) flying into your head. NOE flying requires you to fly as low and as fast as possible using all available terrain features to your advantage. Terrain features such as hills/mountains and buildings allow you to hover behind, assess threats, pop up long enough to get a shot off and then dropping back down before anyone can lock on. You only pop up to take out known targets, popping up otherwise is usually a quick way to die. As a pilot you MUST ALWAYS know where you are on the map at all times and what escape routes are available.
Before the patch taking on AA, be fixed or mobile, was pretty easy. Fly straight at them with all guns/missles blazing and 'poof' they were toast. After the patch this is a good way to find yourself back at the spawn point with 2 white trails still burning your retinas. Most of the fixed AA positions are behind some type of fortification, so if you are low enough they cannot get a lock on you. This allows for pretty free reign on most maps. If your gunner knows the map well you can easily stop behind a building/hill, pop up, watch as he launches a TV and then settle back down before the AA gunner knows what hit him. Also, CHECK YOUR MAP! If the icon for an AA emplacement is missing it is a pretty sure bet that it is manned, know this and avoid that area or take it out. The wild cards are the maps with mobile AA as these can be located almost anywhere. Flying low and fast around these weapons will not save you if they have positioned themselves on a hillside, but it will still make you harder to hit. Hopefully you have a good rapor with the jet pilots on your team and can get them to take these bastards out for you.
If you find yourself in a dogfight with another helo, after the obligatory long distance TV launch, close the gap ASAP. This will hopefully discourage the experienced AA gunner from shooting at you for fear of taking out his own chopper instead of you. If the AA persists in firing there are 2 courses of action you can take: continue dogfighting while dumping flares and side slipping (old style pre patch) or dump flares and dive with/into them leaving the other pilot high and dry with his own AA coming to get him (this has worked several times for me in the past couple days).
I would suggest staying away from the aerial acrobatics these days. Barrel rolls and loops may look cool but they do nothing against AA other than making you look like an expensive firework when you blow up.
I am not the best or most experienced pilot in BF2, but I have almost 100 hrs (93) under my belt and I fly with a mouse and keyboard. I expect to have my Vet badge by next weekend...Hey don't get on my case I am 34 with a wife and a job I can't play this game 24/7.
Let the suggestions/criticisms/flames BEGIN!