The Dolphin Hunt

2006-11-21 19:11:18

#51

Brasso: member; +1,549|6889

Marlboroman82 wrote:
haffeysucks wrote:
Marlboroman82 wrote:

i meant the dude not the lion
I know, it was just a little......off-topic?
i guess, were are talking about animal cruelty, poaching, etc.

Meh. I guess it was on-topic in it's relations to animal cruelty.

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2006-11-21 19:15:08

#52

Ratzinger: Member; +43|6650|Wollongong, NSW, Australia

The Denis Leary bit.....

What are you?
I'm an otter, I swim on my back and do cute little human things with my hands.
Awww, nice...What are you?
I'm a cow.
Get in the fucking truck.

2006-11-21 19:30:08

#53

Volatile: Member; +252|6963|Sextupling in Empire

Well, if you want to do something about it, then step away from your $2000 pc and send some of your money to the poor fishermen/poachers that do this, so that they can take care of their families. Wonderfull animals get slaughtered everyday so that poor people can eat and have shelter.

Oh, and I think this is awful as well.

Edit: but this does not apply to the fags killing the lion in the above vid.

Last edited by Volatile_Squirrel (2006-11-21 19:32:11)

2006-11-21 19:35:40

#54

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6663|North Carolina

Good post, Volatile...

2006-11-21 19:41:26

#55

Ty: Mass Media Casualty; +2,398|7033|Noizyland

Volatile_Squirrel wrote:
Well, if you want to do something about it, then step away from your $2000 pc and send some of your money to the poor fishermen/poachers that do this, so that they can take care of their families. Wonderfull animals get slaughtered everyday so that poor people can eat and have shelter.

Oh, and I think this is awful as well.

Point taken, although personally this computer is everything I own and it got me into overdraft so I think I'll leave your idea to people who can afford it, namely the Japanese government.
Marine mammals saved the Japanese in post-war years. Now that the Japs are back on their feet it's only fair that the Japanese now in turn save the marine mammals.

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2006-11-21 19:42:37

#56

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|7030|PNW

If I was Italian or a citizen of some ex-protectorate of Rome, I could claim that gladiatorial combat is a tradition. Wouldn't make it right or humane to participate in, though.

2006-11-21 20:40:28

#57

ozghost: Mr piss EVERYONE off; +48|6968|Kangarooland

Ty wrote:
Volatile_Squirrel wrote:
Well, if you want to do something about it, then step away from your $2000 pc and send some of your money to the poor fishermen/poachers that do this, so that they can take care of their families. Wonderfull animals get slaughtered everyday so that poor people can eat and have shelter.

Oh, and I think this is awful as well.
Point taken, although personally this computer is everything I own and it got me into overdraft so I think I'll leave your idea to people who can afford it,

Computer got u into an overdraft. lol?

Fuk, don't give to the poor son, you are the poor.

edit:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:
If I was Italian or a citizen of some ex-protectorate of Rome, I could claim that gladiatorial combat is a tradition. Wouldn't make it right or humane to participate in, though.

im an Aussie, of Convict descent; does it make it o.k to steal rape and pillage etc..no... good point unnamed

Last edited by ozghost (2006-11-21 20:42:30)

2006-11-21 20:41:59

#58

Bubbalo: The Lizzard; +541|6820

Heh, a 2 year old calling someone son......................

2006-11-21 20:44:26

#59

ozghost: Mr piss EVERYONE off; +48|6968|Kangarooland

calling someone who your only contact has been thru the internats a two year old...

priceless...

2006-11-21 20:47:39

#60

Ty: Mass Media Casualty; +2,398|7033|Noizyland

Back on topic please.

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2006-11-21 21:00:04

#61

Bubbalo: The Lizzard; +541|6820

ozghost wrote:
calling someone who your only contact has been thru the internats a two year old...

priceless...

LOL! The inernats!

2006-11-21 21:27:11

#62

iNeedUrFace4Soup: fuck it; +348|6804

I saw a video similar to this one put out by PETA about how they farm pigs and chickens. I think it was called something like "Meet your meat". It was equally horrific, but over a much longer time period. I can understand how hard it would be to stop the cow, pig, chicken industry since there is actually a large demand, but slaughtering dolphins for meat they consider sub-standard is genuinely idiotic.

2006-11-21 21:41:41

#63

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|7030|PNW

ozghost wrote:
unnamednewbie13 wrote:
If I was Italian or a citizen of some ex-protectorate of Rome, I could claim that gladiatorial combat is a tradition. Wouldn't make it right or humane to participate in, though.
im an Aussie, of Convict descent; does it make it o.k to steal rape and pillage etc..no... good point unnamed

And being of Scottish/Irish descent, I still don't think it's fine to pillage England and convert officials' hides into belts and boots, either.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2006-11-21 21:42:06)

2006-11-21 21:49:42

#64

kr@cker: Bringin' Sexy Back!; +581|6808|Southeastern USA

if they ate them i'd have no problem with it (assuming they'd kill them as quick as possible), i wonder what they taste like?

2006-11-21 22:22:26

#65

BVC: Member; +325|6954

If the cultural practise was banned they'd just keep doing it under the guise of "scientific research"...oh, wait...

2006-11-21 23:41:31

#66

JaggedPanther: Member; +61|6732

haffeysucks wrote:
usmarine2005 wrote:
haffeysucks wrote:
They can go to hell for all I care.
So why are they ok to kill, but not dolphins?
Because they are so intelligent and remind me so much of humans ourselves. Cows, pigs, turkeys, and chickens are stupid, dirty, animals that are good for one thing: food. The world has been consuming domesticated animals almost forever. Wild dolphins, on the other hand, have been consumed by only the Japanese. Who else does this? No other race. In historic times, this might be considered acceptable, as the need for food was extreme. However, the Japanese are now claiming that war has led them to become poor and that they need to hunt dolphins to survive? That's a joke.

No it's because we find it socially acceptible to eat the food of our choice. And we find it socially inacceptible to eat dolpins. It is that simple.

Cows can become intelligent too, when you come across the video's ( I can't find them on google for some reason) of cows passing intelligence tests (what they are capable of of course) like opening doors with their heads and color rememberence, please have your opinion of not eating intelligence animals ready.

Even black crows can make tools and fishing hooks, EVOLUTION BABY!!!! (*evolution does not only apply to humans),
not to mention octopus that are learning how to walk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRiEeHGBk2s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d56fLvLC4rg

Last edited by JaggedPanther (2006-11-21 23:45:17)

2006-11-22 02:33:27

#67

ozghost: Mr piss EVERYONE off; +48|6968|Kangarooland

JaggedPanther wrote:
Even black crows can make tools and fishing hooks, EVOLUTION BABY!!!! (*evolution does not only apply to humans),
not to mention octopus that are learning how to walk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRiEeHGBk2s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d56fLvLC4rg

*cows CAN become intelligent.....

*EVEN crows can make..... Crows are one of the smartest birds of prey out there, im sure ur comments were well intended, unfortunately they were not thought out,

please keep these comments to ur 'myspace' site. thanks.

Oh and ur completely wrong, and obviously havent read the whole thread. cookie?

Last edited by ozghost (2006-11-22 02:35:26)

2006-11-22 03:31:32

#68

JaggedPanther: Member; +61|6732

ozghost wrote:
JaggedPanther wrote:
Even black crows can make tools and fishing hooks, EVOLUTION BABY!!!! (*evolution does not only apply to humans),
not to mention octopus that are learning how to walk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRiEeHGBk2s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d56fLvLC4rg
*cows CAN become intelligent.....

*EVEN crows can make..... Crows are one of the smartest birds of prey out there, im sure ur comments were well intended, unfortunately they were not thought out,

please keep these comments to ur 'myspace' site. thanks.

Oh and ur completely wrong, and obviously havent read the whole thread. cookie?

I'll put my comments whever the hell I want fuckface!

2006-11-22 16:13:21

#69

Ty: Mass Media Casualty; +2,398|7033|Noizyland

Calm down.

Although I think that hunting/eating animals like Dolphins is morally wrong, I can't impose my morals on others, (it's immoral.)
The thing is, the animals are slaughtered in such a terrible way. The 'common' meats, (Pigs, Cows etc.) are taken to abattoirs where the killing process is as short and humane as possible. PETA can make any scene look nasty, and yeah there is a lot of blood, but generally the animal doesn't' suffer. i this case with the dolphins it is clear that the do.

The other issue on using them for food - they don't. The only meat which is eaten by Humans like the video said is mislabeled as Whale meat to make it seem more attractive. It is not eaten by the poor people of these Japanese villages, it is exported to make money on top of what they get for their 'usual' fishing. Although these people may not be wealthy, they certainly don't rely on the Dolphin hunt to stay alive. Also, the Japanese government in an effort to comply with international treaties on the subject, can easily compensate the 'fishermen' who do this to make up for any loss of income.

It is NOT a tradition, it is NOT essential for these people, it is not useful for anyone, it is against international treaties which Japan has signed, and it is of course not helpful for the environment. On top of all that the process is extremely cruel. I myself have never seen anything crueler on such a large scale. It is another way in which Japan has shown it's contempt for the environment and it needs to fucking stop.

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2006-11-22 16:24:54

#70

sergeriver: Cowboy from Hell; +1,928|7016|Argentina

haffeysucks wrote:
usmarine2005 wrote:
haffeysucks wrote:

They can go to hell for all I care.
So why are they ok to kill, but not dolphins?
Because they are so intelligent and remind me so much of humans ourselves. Cows, pigs, turkeys, and chickens are stupid, dirty, animals that are good for one thing: food. The world has been consuming domesticated animals almost forever. Wild dolphins, on the other hand, have been consumed by only the Japanese. Who else does this? No other race. In historic times, this might be considered acceptable, as the need for food was extreme. However, the Japanese are now claiming that war has led them to become poor and that they need to hunt dolphins to survive? That's a joke.

You are wrong huffey. Sadly, we have to eat and cows f.i. were selected to be industrialized and slaughtered for food. Cows, pigs, turkeys and chickens are living beings and they are not here only to be your next appetizer at McDonald's or KFC. While I condemn those fucking bastards for killing dolphins, I'm not very happy with the industrialized killing of these species. And dolphins don't remind me of humans at all. I like dolphins a lot, they are very intelligent creatures, while Humans are the dumbest beings on Earth.

2006-11-22 16:34:03

#71

Volatile: Member; +252|6963|Sextupling in Empire

sergeriver wrote:
Cows, pigs, turkeys and chickens are living beings and they are not here only to be your next appetizer at McDonald's or KFC.

Who says? Life is nothing more than living things consuming other living things. If you have some other insight as to the true purpose of these animals, then please inform us.

Last edited by Volatile_Squirrel (2006-11-22 16:35:20)

2006-11-22 16:48:42

#72

sergeriver: Cowboy from Hell; +1,928|7016|Argentina

Volatile_Squirrel wrote:
sergeriver wrote:
Cows, pigs, turkeys and chickens are living beings and they are not here only to be your next appetizer at McDonald's or KFC.
Who says? Life is nothing more than living things consuming other living things. If you have some other insight as to the true purpose of these animals, then please inform us.

One thing is an animal killing another to survive and other is the industrialized killing of billions of animals.
I don't have an answer to the food problem, so I'm a hypocrite. But I can tell you every time I see a truck with cows, I feel guilty. I wish there was another way, but sadly there isn't.

2006-11-22 17:52:38

#73

Volatile: Member; +252|6963|Sextupling in Empire

Life is a bitch. Thats why I retreat everyday to the confines of my bedroom and lose myself on the pc.

2006-11-22 20:25:50

#74

JaggedPanther: Member; +61|6732

Volatile_Squirrel wrote:
sergeriver wrote:
Cows, pigs, turkeys and chickens are living beings and they are not here only to be your next appetizer at McDonald's or KFC.
Who says? Life is nothing more than living things consuming other living things. If you have some other insight as to the true purpose of these animals, then please inform us.

Why does an animal need a true purpose (in your eyes) to live?
Using that insight, that is what is being done to the dolphins. Then this thread shouldn't have to exist at all. Dolphins are the only animal to suffer before dying. You think cooping up chickens in a cage with their head graved into a cage an unable to turn is pleasure?

I'll eat them all (dolphins, whales, chicken, eggs, etc) . I just don't be a hypocrite and impose what I think the other guy shouldn't kill and eat. Do you really need bacon and eggs? No but we still eat them.

2006-11-22 20:31:28

#75

Ty: Mass Media Casualty; +2,398|7033|Noizyland

OKay this seems to have turned ino a debate on whether it's right to eat meat. Look, I am a sworn carnavore and have never had any issue with that. I do think it's wrong to eat Dolphin meat, it's just proven that they are intelligent, (to a certain level,) and have a social structure/personal awareness and I think that's just wrong. Howeve as mentioned in an earlier post, some cultures eat Dogs whic I also find wrong. My issue here is not necesarily with the eating of these animals, (although as mentoned I disagree with it,) but more the process of killing them. What the Japanese are doing is brutal and horrible and there is little point to it.

If you are involved in this debate and havn't see the video I suggest you do so now.

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