mr.degman
Member
+10|6629
if a gay couple adopts a child then maybe he wants to be gay and when he grows up he adoptts a child and that that child ALSO gets gay and so on.

At the end the gays have conquered the world and all wears pink silk pyjamas. AHHHHh!!!
RicardoBlanco
The English
+177|6771|Oxford

..teddy..jimmy wrote:

Should homosexuals be allowed to have children through IVF even though the child will probably be bullied and stigmatized at school?

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Discuss..
Ab-so-fucking-lutley not.
JimG
Member
+0|6570

mr.degman wrote:

if a gay couple adopts a child then maybe he wants to be gay and when he grows up he adoptts a child and that that child ALSO gets gay and so on.

At the end the gays have conquered the world and all wears pink silk pyjamas. AHHHHh!!!
What a stereotype! As I have said before it is in my belief that being gay is not a choice. I doubt anyone would choose to be attracted to the same sex if they had the option. The fact that they are attracted to the same sex is just because they are and they can't change that. I therefore do not think that their children will be effected by this, just brought up thinking that homosexuality is okay! Perhaps you should understand this before you debate it.
JimG
Member
+0|6570

RicardoBlanco wrote:

..teddy..jimmy wrote:

Should homosexuals be allowed to have children through IVF even though the child will probably be bullied and stigmatized at school?

...........



Discuss..
Ab-so-fucking-lutley not.
Why not?
..teddy..jimmy
Member
+1,393|6852

RicardoBlanco wrote:

..teddy..jimmy wrote:

Should homosexuals be allowed to have children through IVF even though the child will probably be bullied and stigmatized at school?

...........



Discuss..
Ab-so-fucking-lutley not.
Ricardo, what are you talking about??

What a stereotype! As I have said before it is in my belief that being gay is not a choice. I doubt anyone would choose to be attracted to the same sex if they had the option. The fact that they are attracted to the same sex is just because they are and they can't change that. I therefore do not think that their children will be effected by this, just brought up thinking that homosexuality is okay! Perhaps you should understand this before you debate it.
Lighten up Jimmyboy, it was a joke
JimG
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+0|6570

..teddy..jimmy wrote:

RicardoBlanco wrote:

..teddy..jimmy wrote:

Should homosexuals be allowed to have children through IVF even though the child will probably be bullied and stigmatized at school?

...........



Discuss..
Ab-so-fucking-lutley not.
Ricardo, what are you talking about??

What a stereotype! As I have said before it is in my belief that being gay is not a choice. I doubt anyone would choose to be attracted to the same sex if they had the option. The fact that they are attracted to the same sex is just because they are and they can't change that. I therefore do not think that their children will be effected by this, just brought up thinking that homosexuality is okay! Perhaps you should understand this before you debate it.
Lighten up Jimmyboy, it was a joke
You know ted just because your my bro doesnt mean you have to be a prik!
JoeFriday
Git 'Er Dun
+23|6643|Canada
Im sorry, I  dont have anything against gays, but having two male or two female parents would most definitly have severe socialization and psychological effects.  It would be very difficult for the child to learn things about sexuality and relationships between men and women growing up with two mothers or two fathers.  Also a mothers influence would be severly missed if their were two male parents, likewise for lesbian couples.
So in short, looking out for the child's best interests, no - gays should not be allowed to have children.
RicardoBlanco
The English
+177|6771|Oxford

..teddy..jimmy wrote:

RicardoBlanco wrote:

..teddy..jimmy wrote:

Should homosexuals be allowed to have children through IVF even though the child will probably be bullied and stigmatized at school?

...........



Discuss..
Ab-so-fucking-lutley not.
Ricardo, what are you talking about??

What a stereotype! As I have said before it is in my belief that being gay is not a choice. I doubt anyone would choose to be attracted to the same sex if they had the option. The fact that they are attracted to the same sex is just because they are and they can't change that. I therefore do not think that their children will be effected by this, just brought up thinking that homosexuality is okay! Perhaps you should understand this before you debate it.
Lighten up Jimmyboy, it was a joke
I just think it doesn't give the kid a fair chance in life. If he want's to be gay fine, but at least let him make that decision for himself without such impartial influences and two gay dads.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6784|SE London

UNDIESRULES wrote:

mr.degman wrote:

Cant u people understnd , TO be Gay is WRONG, atlest something is wrong it their head.

The way of life is that a male fucks a female and not male vs male.

No gay marriage no gays would be allowed to have children and to be honest its absolutely fucking disgusting to be gay.
I have to agree.  These people arent right up top.  And the whole gay thing is vile.
Right up top? I'm no expert but aren't tops a type of gay? I could be very wrong and I don't really want to look it up in case I see some unpleasant stuff, but I think they have tops and bottoms...

Does that make you a bottom? Like getting a good pounding do you?

..teddy..jimmy wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

mr.degman wrote:

Cant u people understnd , TO be Gay is WRONG, atlest something is wrong it their head.

The way of life is that a male fucks a female and not male vs male.

No gay marriage no gays would be allowed to have children and to be honest its absolutely fucking disgusting to be gay.
That's a very closed minded attitude. I do think that if they want a kid with their own genes, they need to go out and fuck someone of the opposite sex. But there's nothing inherently wrong with being gay. They can do whatever they want, so long as they don't do it near me (unless it's a couple of the rare sort of lesbians (hot ones)).
So what if they touched dicks infront of you over your cereal.
I wouldn't be at all happy about it. They'd soon find out how unhappy about it I was too.

It was bad enough when I was trying to cook my breakfast one morning and I had a girl I used to live with going on about a guy getting anally fisted on the dance floor of a fetish club till his arse bled.

I don't appreciate being subjected to seeing or hearing about freaky sexual behaviour, especially not when I'm trying to eat/cook.
..teddy..jimmy
Member
+1,393|6852

RicardoBlanco wrote:

..teddy..jimmy wrote:

RicardoBlanco wrote:


Ab-so-fucking-lutley not.
Ricardo, what are you talking about??

What a stereotype! As I have said before it is in my belief that being gay is not a choice. I doubt anyone would choose to be attracted to the same sex if they had the option. The fact that they are attracted to the same sex is just because they are and they can't change that. I therefore do not think that their children will be effected by this, just brought up thinking that homosexuality is okay! Perhaps you should understand this before you debate it.
Lighten up Jimmyboy, it was a joke
I just think it doesn't give the kid a fair chance in life. If he want's to be gay fine, but at least let him make that decision for himself without such impartial influences and two gay dads.
O sorry..I was in another world..lol..now i knwo what you are talkng about.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6784|SE London

JoeFriday wrote:

Im sorry, I  dont have anything against gays, but having two male or two female parents would most definitly have severe socialization and psychological effects.  It would be very difficult for the child to learn things about sexuality and relationships between men and women growing up with two mothers or two fathers.  Also a mothers influence would be severly missed if their were two male parents, likewise for lesbian couples.
So in short, looking out for the child's best interests, no - gays should not be allowed to have children.
How does that work when single parents are allowed to have kids? Who for the most part turn out fine.
arson
Member
+99|6839|New York
Your post makes a great argument why same sex marriages should be legal.
..teddy..jimmy
Member
+1,393|6852

arson wrote:

Your post makes a great argument why same sex marriages should be legal.
Yes, it does but in most places it is not. Therefore without marriages being legal, being abel to have kids should not be legal either.
ShowMeTheMonkey
Member
+125|6905
Nothing against it, but the kid will get seriously bullied. At my school there's a girl whos parents are lesbians (Two Moms! AHH!)

Nice girl, but she looks like she could turn around and kill someone at any momment.
ig
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..teddy..jimmy wrote:

JimG wrote:

Of course gay people should be allowed to have children. They have the same rights as every other human being.
Yes, they may have the same rights as other human beings but their children will generally have a disadvantage in society.
that's merely an opinion.
Techworld
Banned
+17|6605
dont be silly
mKmalfunction
Infamous meleeKings cult. Est. 2003 B.C.
+82|6743|The Lost Highway

JimG wrote:

If it was normal for gays to have kids, it would not be considered abnormal being a child of two gay parents.
I don't have anything against homosexuals, but this quote says alot about this topic.
Techworld
Banned
+17|6605
im against it, god made adam and eve not adam and steve
..teddy..jimmy
Member
+1,393|6852

=]-[f= ig88 wrote:

..teddy..jimmy wrote:

JimG wrote:

Of course gay people should be allowed to have children. They have the same rights as every other human being.
Yes, they may have the same rights as other human beings but their children will generally have a disadvantage in society.
that's merely an opinion.
That is not an opinion that is a fact.
sporty79
Member
+0|6877
Here's my personal lesbian opinion. Everyone is always going to differ on the subject. That's just the way the world works. Children are going to be teased no matter who their parents are because that's just the way kids are. I don't think the children of gay couples are going to end up anymore messed up than anybody else's kids.  People think the kids will suffer because of the lack of female or male influences or grow up only knowing about homosexuality. It's an interesting point but how many people only learn about sexuality or love from just their parents. Children learn and interact with the world so much that as long as you are open to discussing anything with your child when the time comes then you've done the best you can. In the end I believe a gay/lesbian couple can give the love a child needs just as much as a straight couple and that's all that really matters.
[pt] KEIOS
srs bsns
+231|6856|pimelteror.de
let them be married, let them have children... this discussion is bullshit.
children of poor people also get bullied for not wearing the newest streetwear - so should poor people be allowed to have children?
foreigners get bullied for being foreign - should foreigners be allowed to have children?

asking such question is only a sign of intolerance and ignorance
IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6694|Northern California

sporty79 wrote:

Here's my personal lesbian opinion. Everyone is always going to differ on the subject. That's just the way the world works. Children are going to be teased no matter who their parents are because that's just the way kids are. I don't think the children of gay couples are going to end up anymore messed up than anybody else's kids.  People think the kids will suffer because of the lack of female or male influences or grow up only knowing about homosexuality. It's an interesting point but how many people only learn about sexuality or love from just their parents. Children learn and interact with the world so much that as long as you are open to discussing anything with your child when the time comes then you've done the best you can. In the end I believe a gay/lesbian couple can give the love a child needs just as much as a straight couple and that's all that really matters.
Well put.  I don't agree with all you've said, but I agree with your assessment that what matters (as far as legality goes), if gay parents can love their children (or just be good parents) as straights, then they should be allowed to "make" a child for themselves.  This is a legal opinion only.  I just thought that you made a good point.
..teddy..jimmy
Member
+1,393|6852

[pt] KEIOS wrote:

asking such question is only a sign of intolerance and ignorance
..and?? Is it a crime to question aspects of society.
IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6694|Northern California

[pt] KEIOS wrote:

let them be married, let them have children... this discussion is bullshit.
children of poor people also get bullied for not wearing the newest streetwear - so should poor people be allowed to have children?
foreigners get bullied for being foreign - should foreigners be allowed to have children?

asking such question is only a sign of intolerance and ignorance
the 7 pages of active, mature discussion disagrees with you.  this is an excellent discussion.
IG-Calibre
comhalta
+226|6945|Tír Eoghan, Tuaisceart Éireann

IRONCHEF wrote:

[pt] KEIOS wrote:

let them be married, let them have children... this discussion is bullshit.
children of poor people also get bullied for not wearing the newest streetwear - so should poor people be allowed to have children?
foreigners get bullied for being foreign - should foreigners be allowed to have children?

asking such question is only a sign of intolerance and ignorance
the 7 pages of active, mature discussion disagrees with you.  this is an excellent discussion.
Sorry Ironchef you're wrong, a lot of the discussion in the previous 7 pages does agree with him - its only your own unfounded prejudiced preconceived notions about raising a child are what are in disagreement.

Last edited by IG-Calibre (2006-11-21 13:01:14)

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