Swampyuk1961
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1. Main thing to use all the map, remove the shaded areas.
    BF2 at the moment is headon there is no outflanking which can be done by
    removing the shaded areas.Not much of military tactics if you cant outflank the enemy.

2. Remove the Airplanes, add a few more helicopters gunships and transports,
    change the carrier to an helicopter assault ship and add a few LCs.

3. Improve the AAs so they hit what they lockon to.......
    Ive fired the stingers at airplanes they lockon but miss, when the planes release there         
    flares they lockon to them but not the plane, these need to be improved.

4. Improve the AT guns so they destroy what they are fired at........

5. Improve the Artillery by adding a key so that the commander can cancel an arty strike.

6. Improve the crosshairs on the sniper rifles to either a dot or thinner crosshairs, and to make
   a head shot a kill.......

7. Colour Coded Icons for the C4 Claymoors and AT mines.......
    So that players in vehicles can distinguish what they are.

   ie:- C4     Red    (with C4 in the Icon)
        ATM    Orange (with ATM in the Icon)
        CM     Yellow (with CM in the Icon)

8. Instead of Airplanes how about a 2 plane formation of bombers piloted by bots.
    Used in the same way as the artillery.
    A squad leader can call for an airstrike to the commander, like he does for an arty strike.
    And make it so that they can be shot down by AAs.
    reload time for the airstrike double the time it takes for the artillery to reload.

9. Remove the Punish as this is totally stupid, You have heard of friendly fire.
    If you dont remove the punish make it so that the guy who has been teamkilled is punished for   
    not paying attention. Or make it both players are punished..... 
    I was punished for TKing with a claymoor, I typed on the screen a few times in capital letters   
    WARNING CLAYMORE IN DOORWAY at whatever location and what does the Plonker do ignores the       
    message and bang hes dead  then I get punished for it.
    Hence the reason for colour coding the Icons so players know what they are near.
    Alonger delay on the screen for the text messages, so they can read any warnings.

10. Improve the game to a more realistic remove the bunny hopping or limit the number of times
     you can jump, as this is the most annoying thing in the game.
     Try bunny hopping in a real combat situation, especialy with all your gear you wouldnt be able 
     to do it and if you did you will be to tired to fire your weapon.
     Now just think if you could do it in real life on a battlefield what would you see just imagine
     what it would be like, 2 armies jumping up and down like bloody frogs or whatever you wish to call them 
     And make the game where you can run and shoot, if you can jump and shoot you should be able to 
     run and shoot.
     If the jump key is removed make it so if u walk upto an object ie small wall or boxes it will automatically
     jump.


With these improvements they might as well bring out a BF3 a much more improved and more realistic game.
BlueScreen
I am the pwnage! Bitches!
+5|7042|Finland
You are talking about realism and same time you are talking about some coulour coded icons for explosives, oh c'mon. And what if they remove shaders? Then you can go to other side of the world, right? Isn't it too much? And yeah... It take too much resources for any computer. And you are talking about removing of airplanes... So you are thinking that there's only choppers in modern war and no planes? And how you can cancel arty strike? It start firing at the same time as you press that buttong, so how you take those bullets of arty out from the sky? Do you have some catch system for those? And in the end.. Why the hell game must be realistic? If you want realistic war go to real war and come then to say that do you want realistic war anymore, really. This is JUST the game and main reason why people are playing games are that it's funny and they want relax and just play. And do you think it's possible with extreme realistic game? No it's not.
Amen
UK4ev
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"Colour Coded Icons for the C4 Claymoors and AT mines.......
    So that players in vehicles can distinguish what they are.

   ie:- C4     Red    (with C4 in the Icon)
        ATM    Orange (with ATM in the Icon)
        CM     Yellow (with CM in the Icon)"

BlueScreen, ur rite this makes the game less realistic, but if ur bloody cross as i am with stupid players who just disregard warning signs and get themselves killed with friendly ATM, CM, & C4...just daft that the planter gets punished, when it should be the idiot that gets punished and banned from server........

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-=Meshekal=-
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+2|7046|United Kingdom
Don't really need to say much more...Bluescreen kinda covered all bases with that one.

Why would you WANT total realism in a game? It would be rubbish. Seriously...one shot with a pistol and you're screwed. Bombers flown by bots used the same as arty? And what would be the point of playing the game. You're going to be be bombed by planes and arty constantly. That's not fun.

Remove the jump key?!!? And you want realism in a game? Are you a cripple, can't you jump? I can.

Get punished if YOU are teamkilled? Fuck off. There are always retards out there who run around shooting team mates. On purpose. How is that my sodding stupidity? It isn't, so I don't want minus points because of it. They should remove TK's from mines though, as it is quite clearly marked on the screen.
*TS*tphai
The Forum Alien
+89|7110|The planet Tophet
well i dont know what too say i do think bluescreen is right
Conrules1
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If you want to play with a bunch of 12 year olds then the bunny hopping is great.  GR is still more realistic than this game at this time.   Their is no or very little team work and it is surppising what happens when there is.
Blue thinks that if you want realism go to a real war.   Obviously he is a punk that has never been there.  I have,  as I'm sure several other people on here have and if he thinks killing in real life is fun then maybe he is one person that shouldn't be playing these games.   You read about that type in the news media all the time.   All anyone is asking for is something realistic.  If you want gameboy action go buy one.
Krappyappy
'twice cooked beef!'
+111|7124

Swampyuk1961 wrote:

5. Improve the Artillery by adding a key so that the commander can cancel an arty strike.
how is that realistic? i guess real commanders can magically cancel out artillery shells after they've been fired and are flying through the air?

most people who want more 'realism' don't even want realism, they want their own version of the game which is just as unrealistic, but in a different way.
Maj.Do
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+85|7056|good old CA
dont like the jet idea .  dont like most of ur ideas sorry
Swampyuk1961
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Ok take it you lot dont seem to get  what Im getting at ....... just so you understand..... regarding realism, not to make all the game realistic..........   

1. The maps are to small ....... you advance you hit trouble theres no room for outflanking.
    this also applies to SF there maps are to bloody small......
2. The Maps are to small for aircraft  if u use all the map you have the room ........ 


3.  Key to stop arty firing, you have all seen films where the arty has been called in on a target, then someone calls ceasefire over the radio  your targeting friendlies....that is what Im getting at ........  by the way the arty doesnt fire soon as the button is pressed there is a slight delay.

4. Ok there is no colour coding in real life for mines c4 and claymoors  but it will help stop the TKs in the game.

5. I said either remove the jumping or restrict it   YES I CAN JUMP CAN YOU


AND TO BLUESCREEEN   how old are you,  and yes I have been in a real war so stick that up ur arse and smoke it........


and to you lot who said you cant cancel an arty strike read the above, then comment on the idea knobheads
if you notice in the game there is a delay between the rounds being fired  so theres a point to cancel it......


AND BEFORE YOU LOT REPLY TO THIS THINK AOUT IT 1ST DONT JUST READ THEN DIVE IN WITH YOUR STUPID COMMENTS ............ READ   THINK   THEN COMMENT
Conrules1
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I think EA needs servers for children and one for grown up adults.  Some young ones are mature enough but most aren't.  Run and gun isn't the way to go in my opinion.  What fun is there in that.    For clan's it sucks period.
Dutch
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No one has said that canceling an atry strike should stop a shell in mid air, but I think the option to stop a strike before its started or cancel one in progress is a good idea.

Jumping is good...to a point. It needs to be restricted so when health is low or you are weak you are not able to do a 5 foot standing long jump. When I run and get tired my guy slows down, why shouldnt that be the same for jumping?

Planes are good but should be required to land to reload or at least make 2 passes. I hate being bombed every 30 sec by the same plane on a small map. It takes time for the arty to reload, are planes so different?

"there is no colour coding in real life for mines c4 and claymoors" This is very true, but in real life there is comunication on where these items are placed and since that is not allways possable in the game what would the problem be with giving them a colour or icon or a location on the map?

"Why the hell game must be realistic?" Isnt realistic what the game producers are shooting for? Isnt that the word they use the most to promote these games? No one is saying that these games should be real life but were not playing Doom here. Its hard to have fun and relax when there are 4 rabid kangeroos comming at you throwing C4 like hand gernades.

Just my 2 cents worth here, I know ill get flamed to hell on it but I just felt that BlueScreen came back a little harsh and took all the comments a little to litteral.
Swampyuk1961
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well said Conrules and Dutch  nice to know someone agrees to a point and can make sence of my post  did u read it then think about it ..... I bet you did
*TS*tphai
The Forum Alien
+89|7110|The planet Tophet

Swampyuk1961 wrote:

well said Conrules and Dutch  nice to know someone agrees to a point and can make sence of my post  did u read it then think about it ..... I bet you did
i agree with you to a point but i do like your ideas but i wouldnt like them in the game
mcminty
Moderating your content for the Australian Govt.
+879|7025|Sydney, Australia
Remove the Airplanes
the game is called Battlefield...
AirForce2076
Member
+1|7045|MN
how about adding a feature to the moron who runs over your mines and punishes: "WARNING: MINES, DON"T RUN OVER THEM DIPSHIT" spammed all over their screen and if they continue to run over your mines, instantly their computer is shut off and their connection is canceled automatically.

Last edited by AirForce2076 (2005-12-18 20:55:15)

BlueScreen
I am the pwnage! Bitches!
+5|7042|Finland

mcminty wrote:

Remove the Airplanes
the game is called Battlefield...
LOL !
Lawk
Member
+2|7078
While they're at it they should just make it so you can only die once per round.  Now thats realism!

This is an arcade game, not a simulation.
Hutch
Member
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The thing that I dont like is the fact that a player can roll and be inviciable. I dont know how to roll so im not sure its true or not, but if it is true this should be fixed.
Lawk
Member
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Hutch wrote:

The thing that I dont like is the fact that a player can roll and be inviciable. I dont know how to roll so im not sure its true or not, but if it is true this should be fixed.
That roll is just graphical.  Its an animation.  You do it every time you go prone and strafe at the same time.  Assuming you do this, you've probably rolled a thousand times.

Players aren't invincible when they "roll", you just cant hit them cause you aint good.
War Man
Australians are hermaphrodites.
+564|7017|Purplicious Wisconsin

Swampyuk1961 wrote:

1. Main thing to use all the map, remove the shaded areas.
   .

2. Remove the Airplanes, add a few more helicopters gunships and transports,
    change the carrier to an helicopter assault ship and add a few LCs.

With these improvements they might as well bring out a BF3 a much more improved and more realistic game.
Airplances are realistic, shaded areas are realistic and if you want them to be removed go to options and click graphics and get rid of shaded areas, bf2 is considered bf3, so I suggest you say bf4 and also think what another game part of the battlefield series will be about. It might as well become a sci'fi' which means their will be darkness.

Last edited by War Man (2005-12-19 22:20:05)

The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
War Man
Australians are hermaphrodites.
+564|7017|Purplicious Wisconsin

Swampyuk1961 wrote:

10. Improve the game to a more realistic remove the bunny hopping or limit the number of times
     you can jump, as this is the most annoying thing in the game.
     Try bunny hopping in a real combat situation, especialy with all your gear you wouldnt be able 
     to do it and if you did you will be to tired to fire your weapon.
     Now just think if you could do it in real life on a battlefield what would you see just imagine
     what it would be like, 2 armies jumping up and down like bloody frogs or whatever you wish to call them 
     And make the game where you can run and shoot, if you can jump and shoot you should be able to 
     run and shoot.
     If the jump key is removed make it so if u walk upto an object ie small wall or boxes it will automatically
     jump.
There is a limit(by stamina).
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
Alert Medic
Member
+0|7006
I sort of agree with Swampy but I need to remind everyone that this is just a game. Yes, it is frustrating to try to kill a damn bunny hopper while getting punished for placing AT-Mines but it's like Conrules1 says, there's mostly children playing this game and many others online. I also think there should be servers for children and adults but let's face it...IT'S JUST A GAME. And to whoever said "it's war", you obvously haven't been to any kind of war. I haven't either but not only has my father been to Vietnam but so have many other friends of ours been. Go talk to one of these people and ask them what REAL war is about.

Just lighten up a little and try to have fun. If you get too frustrated in a game, take a break and find another server later. IT'S JUST A GAME!
section9
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UK4ev
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Im strting to hate this bloody game anyways, to many cheats & hacks.................waiting for GR3......hope it's good......:-P
Note no reply needed....so go bugger off, somewhere...
DeadboyUSMC
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Krappyappy wrote:

Swampyuk1961 wrote:

5. Improve the Artillery by adding a key so that the commander can cancel an arty strike.
how is that realistic? i guess real commanders can magically cancel out artillery shells after they've been fired and are flying through the air?

most people who want more 'realism' don't even want realism, they want their own version of the game which is just as unrealistic, but in a different way.
There's been many a time I wish I could have called off an artillery strike.  I know this is a game, but since it's mimicing real weaponry, artillery strikes should have a lagtime once you call for it. Real artillery takes almost 2 minutes to get rounds downrange once the strike is ordered. The information needs to be processed by the FDC, then sent to the gunline, then the rounds need to be prepped and loaded then fired.

I know 2 minutes in-game is retarded, but at least 10 or 15 seconds.

Anyway, I agree with being able to stop the strike during that time at least. I think it's a valid point.

Don't argue with me on artillery, I was an cannoneer in the Corps

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