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what good will it do?

sergeriver wrote:

Palestinian Prime Minister Ismail Haniya of the ruling Hamas group has said he is willing to resign if this will end a Western aid boycott.

I know this will start the usual flaming.  I think this guy wants to negotiate.  For a terrorist he seems very reasonable.

He's not a terrorist.

sergeriver wrote:

Palestinian Prime Minister Ismail Haniya of the ruling Hamas group has said he is willing to resign if this will end a Western aid boycott.

I know this will start the usual flaming.  I think this guy wants to negotiate.  For a terrorist he seems very reasonable.

Might have been reasonable if he had offered the same before sanctions.  He's just wanting the sanctions gone.

Stingray24 wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Palestinian Prime Minister Ismail Haniya of the ruling Hamas group has said he is willing to resign if this will end a Western aid boycott.

I know this will start the usual flaming.  I think this guy wants to negotiate.  For a terrorist he seems very reasonable.

Might have been reasonable if he had offered the same before sanctions.  He's just wanting the sanctions gone.

Is that bad?  I mean the guy wants the best for his people.  The best in Palestine terms should mean having a day without killings.

lowing wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:

Might have been reasonable if he had offered the same before sanctions.  He's just wanting the sanctions gone.

Is that bad?  I mean the guy wants the best for his people.  The best in Palestine terms should mean having a day without killings.

yeah that would be pretty cool if the Palistinians could actually try going a day without killing.

Sure.  Maybe whilst they do that the Zionists could go a day without making profit off of stolen lands.

Actually, I was talking about Israel.

But let's use your logic.  I would argue it is ridiculous to walk into the house of a guy with a bat, take over part of the house, then complain when he hits you.

Are you really as dense as you make yourself out to be?  Did you even read my post?

Let me walk you through this step by step:

You used an analogy which started when land was returned to the Palestinians.

I started mine before that, when Zionist forces took land from the Palestinians.

So, when you talk about someone hitting someone else with a bat and crying, you're talking about Palestinians.

When I talk about someone walking into a house and thieving, and then being attacked, the thief is the Zionist and the attacker is the Palestinian.

sergeriver wrote:

lowing wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Is that bad?  I mean the guy wants the best for his people.  The best in Palestine terms should mean having a day without killings.

yeah that would be pretty cool if the Palistinians could actually try going a day without killing.

Let me ask you something, if some asshole holding a gun invades your home and puts the life of your family in risk, what would you do?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel#194 … _migration


Yeah I see your point, I bet the Israeli's were plenty scared and pissed off watching the Arab countries do that to them. I see nowwhy Isarael defends itself.

you might wanna read up on who is the agressors in the history of the Israeli/ Arab conflicts before you post any more any more.

also take note that the Arabs turned down a 2 state proposal with Jerusalem as central for both. GUESS who rejected it??



Establishment of the State

Ben-Gurion pronounces the Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel on May 14, 1948 in Tel Aviv.Main article: Declaration of the Establishment of the State of Israel
In 1947, following increasing levels of violence from groups such as Irgun and Lehi, uncontrollable immigration from Europe and general war-weariness, the British government decided to withdraw from the Palestine Mandate.[13] The UN General Assembly approved the 1947 UN Partition Plan dividing the territory into two states, with the Jewish area consisting of roughly 55% of the land, and the Arab area roughly 45%. Jerusalem was planned to be an international region administered by the UN to avoid conflict over its status.

Immediately following the adoption of the Partition Plan by the UN General Assembly on November 29, 1947, David Ben-Gurion tentatively accepted the partition, while the Arab League rejected it. The Arab Higher Committee immediately ordered a violent three-day strike on Jewish civilians, attacking buildings, shops, and neighborhoods, and prompting counter-attacks organized by underground Jewish militias like the Lehi and Irgun. These attacks soon turned into widespread fighting between Arabs and Jews, this civil war being the first "phase" of the 1948 War of Independence.[14]

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sergeriver wrote:

lowing wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Let me ask you something, if some asshole holding a gun invades your home and puts the life of your family in risk, what would you do?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel#194 … _migration


Yeah I see your point, I bet the Israeli's were plenty scared and pissed off watching the Arab countries do that to them. I see nowwhy Isarael defends itself.

you might wanna read up on who is the agressors in the history of the Israeli/ Arab conflicts before you post any more any more.

Dude if you want to start a source war fine, but I know history and Israel ain't the sole victim here.

Well that is a start, by you saying Israel "ain't the sole victim" would mean that it is at least, a victim.

go ahead and source the shit outta me that says Israel started all this non-sense with its Arab nieghbors.

CameronPoe wrote:

What's the point? He should learn to go without 'western aid'. Take a leaf out of Cuba's book. He's delusional if he thinks him resigning will change things too.

Do you mean Cuba gets no aid from any other country in the world??? not being a smart ass Cam it is a real question.

CameronPoe wrote:

lowing wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

What's the point? He should learn to go without 'western aid'. Take a leaf out of Cuba's book. He's delusional if he thinks him resigning will change things too.

Do you mean Cuba gets no aid from any other country in the world??? not being a smart ass Cam it is a real question.

Of course they do. But they have learned not to rely on the likes of the US. Hamas could learn a lesson in self-reliance, self-sufficiency and 'personal responsibility' from the likes of the Cubans who have learned to cope with their closest neighbour, the most powerful nation on earth, completely shunning them. If Cuba survived 'El Periodo Especial' - the period after the collapse of the USSR - then Hamas should be able to as well.

Ok so they don't rely on the likes of the US, but they DO need to rely on someone.

You were there so  I am in no position to argue with you on the following question: 

From your observations, the people of Cuba oppressed,  or are they free to live to their potential?

I guess another question would be, were you allowed free access to Cuba, or were you allowed to see only what Castro allowed you to see?..Again bot being a smart ass or shitty am really wondering.

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