sfarrar33
Halogenoalkane
+57|6876|InGerLand
well this thread could do with being simplified a little, ignoring the real point of the thread and having serge vs fancy, why don't both of you clearly state where you stand on:

1) the american government as a whole
2) the bush administration (going though it is)
3) the american people (in general)
4) americas more shady dealings with arab countries
5) americas wars with other countries

try not to be blatently insultive, don't make a comment without an example to back it up for example
please be honest
then you won't say anything that will drop you in it later, and everyone gets to know your political viewpoints on certain things in full
please (for the love of god) don't do an essay either just whether your left right or center and what you least like, what you do like and what you woud change

lets have a mass-debate people!!! (say it and you get the joke...hopefully)
IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6749|Northern California

sfarrar33 wrote:

well this thread could do with being simplified a little, ignoring the real point of the thread and having serge vs fancy, why don't both of you clearly state where you stand on:

1) the american government as a whole
2) the bush administration (going though it is)
3) the american people (in general)
4) americas more shady dealings with arab countries
5) americas wars with other countries

try not to be blatently insultive, don't make a comment without an example to back it up for example
please be honest
then you won't say anything that will drop you in it later, and everyone gets to know your political viewpoints on certain things in full
please (for the love of god) don't do an essay either just whether your left right or center and what you least like, what you do like and what you woud change

lets have a mass-debate people!!! (say it and you get the joke...hopefully)
lol..you said "mass-debate"
+1 for clever word use.
IG-Calibre
comhalta
+226|7000|Tír Eoghan, Tuaisceart Éireann

IRONCHEF wrote:

IG-Calibre wrote:

Does not the simple ability to Quote what you're responding to not actually just do most of that already? discussion would become quite sterile without the inflammatory sarcastic jibes and nonsense posts - most people can discern between the wheat and the chaff themselves. I say we take off and nuke it from space it's the only way we can be sure..
Yes, but that is a non-secure way to guarantee a real 1 on 1 debate.  LOCKING in a debate with someone as described above will also, eventually be a sign that others should not directly debate someone's replies, respecting that persons locked debate with their opponent.

Another rule could be used that if one of the locked debaters got hot under the collar, or strayed enough, or used an insult..the OTHER debater would then declare victory..unless the inflamed person retracted/edited their reply and resumed debate.
bah! I can respect a person on the quality of their name calling & even more so on their rebuttal to it. It doesn't challenge the validity of what they are saying, what next chairmen or should I say chairpersons? sterile boring nonsense, whatever happened to just shootin' the shit to pass a bit of time? makes this place sound like a fucking Parliament..

Last edited by IG-Calibre (2006-11-09 09:51:10)

sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7015|Argentina

IRONCHEF wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Ok, if you people think this is a good idea I'll ask chuy (if it takes a lot of his time to do it I won't bother him with this) to add some kind of new option where one person invites another to debate about a single topic, but allowing other people only to read the thread.  As Ironchef said it should be locked, with granted access for the OP and the challenged person.
Well, it can just be a lock of our own..just a verbal agreement within the thread..and not an actual mod-enforced lock of the thread.  read the post above this one.
But what if chuy could add an option to create a thread with granted access for the OP and the Challenged person?  This should go in a subsection I suppose in order to maintain this section clean.
Fancy_Pollux
Connoisseur of Fine Wine
+1,306|6904

IRONCHEF wrote:

lol, or that!

you know..i've been very tempted to just put that quote in my signature to prevent you from ever getting a hard on again by using that!  lol
Most guys have posters of hot women on their walls. I have a giant rasterization of your evolution post on mine.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7015|Argentina

sfarrar33 wrote:

well this thread could do with being simplified a little, ignoring the real point of the thread and having serge vs fancy, why don't both of you clearly state where you stand on:

1) the american government as a whole
2) the bush administration (going though it is)
3) the american people (in general)
4) americas more shady dealings with arab countries
5) americas wars with other countries

try not to be blatently insultive, don't make a comment without an example to back it up for example
please be honest
then you won't say anything that will drop you in it later, and everyone gets to know your political viewpoints on certain things in full
please (for the love of god) don't do an essay either just whether your left right or center and what you least like, what you do like and what you woud change

lets have a mass-debate people!!! (say it and you get the joke...hopefully)
I think people from both wings here know what I think about all these issues.  If Fancy is up to talk without flaming or posting with an arrogant attitude, I'd be glad to debate about whatever thing he wants.   Meanwhile I don't have any intention to debate with a person that doesn't respect my opinion even if he doesn't agree with me at all.  I'm able to disagree with a person and still feel respect for him.  This is not the case.

Last edited by sergeriver (2006-11-09 09:57:43)

IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6749|Northern California

sergeriver wrote:

IRONCHEF wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

Ok, if you people think this is a good idea I'll ask chuy (if it takes a lot of his time to do it I won't bother him with this) to add some kind of new option where one person invites another to debate about a single topic, but allowing other people only to read the thread.  As Ironchef said it should be locked, with granted access for the OP and the challenged person.
Well, it can just be a lock of our own..just a verbal agreement within the thread..and not an actual mod-enforced lock of the thread.  read the post above this one.
But what if chuy could add an option to create a thread with granted access for the OP and the Challenged person?  This should go in a subsection I suppose in order to maintain this section clean.
i don't mind, but that's alot of work given the amount of quality debate we have around here.  plus we'd have to wait for chuy to create the thread parameters, etc.  with the relaxed approach of just designating someone as your 1 on 1 challenger, and ignoring other debate requests (if you want to only do 1 on 1), it can work good.

I guess the purpose of declaring a ** 1 on 1 with [forum member] ** in your post would eventually be accepted by forum members and then we'd all just get to sit back and watch it unfold..or use that debate to spawn other debates within the thread, on topic of course, and others can lock in with 1 person and do likewise.

tell you what, I'll start some today (1 on 1's) and see how it works.  I'll naturally add the purpose of why I am writing ** 1 on 1 debate request with [forum member] ** so they pick up on it and accept or reject.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7015|Argentina

IRONCHEF wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

IRONCHEF wrote:


Well, it can just be a lock of our own..just a verbal agreement within the thread..and not an actual mod-enforced lock of the thread.  read the post above this one.
But what if chuy could add an option to create a thread with granted access for the OP and the Challenged person?  This should go in a subsection I suppose in order to maintain this section clean.
i don't mind, but that's alot of work given the amount of quality debate we have around here.  plus we'd have to wait for chuy to create the thread parameters, etc.  with the relaxed approach of just designating someone as your 1 on 1 challenger, and ignoring other debate requests (if you want to only do 1 on 1), it can work good.

I guess the purpose of declaring a ** 1 on 1 with [forum member] ** in your post would eventually be accepted by forum members and then we'd all just get to sit back and watch it unfold..or use that debate to spawn other debates within the thread, on topic of course, and others can lock in with 1 person and do likewise.

tell you what, I'll start some today (1 on 1's) and see how it works.  I'll naturally add the purpose of why I am writing ** 1 on 1 debate request with [forum member] ** so they pick up on it and accept or reject.
What you suggest is the easiest way, but you must remember that this forum is full of people without respect for other members, and then the flaming will start.
redhawk454
Member
+50|6806|Divided States of America

sergeriver wrote:

Fancy_Pollux wrote:

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=52438

EDIT: Looks like it was locked. Didn't see that coming.


I can think of better things to do than watch two idiots flame each other...such as masturbate.
Where in hell in that post does it say that America is evil?  I named two assholes who don't represent America, perhaps they represent you, and you felt insulted.

PS: I bet you are an expert in that issue.
You mean to tel me you dont deny the:
    "American is an empire boohoohoo" babble?
[RDH]Warlord
Quakecon Attendee
+17|6917|SLC, Utah, USA
Actually, in general I find the discussions to be fairly straight and on topic.  An occasional interjection from someone is easily ignored, but what is most annoying is a separate conversation taking place in the same topic (eg. Fancy_Pollux's facination with Ironchef in this thread)
IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6749|Northern California

sergeriver wrote:

What you suggest is the easiest way, but you must remember that this forum is full of people without respect for other members, and then the flaming will start.
Oh, don't I know it! lol

And it's ok if the typical trolls come in and throw down some flaming and insults because the locked debaters have the privilege of not responding and shouldn't expect to respond as they are focused on serious 1 on 1 debate with their counterpart.

it's to be expected that the normal flaming, joking, porn linking, and off topic bs will still permeate good threads.  But if two people are locked down into debate..they should know to focus on their counterpart and not be obliged to respond to the bs or other frivelous challenges.  If they wish to lock into another 1 on 1 in the same thread, they can if they can handle it, of course.

I dont' want to define too much of this idea as it should be left to personal flexibility.  I'm just suggesting the ** 1 on 1 ** tag to be used or something like it.  Of course, it will have to be shown by example so I will begin using it..and if it catches on (just like "/sarcasm" has), then sweet!
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7015|Argentina

IRONCHEF wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

What you suggest is the easiest way, but you must remember that this forum is full of people without respect for other members, and then the flaming will start.
Oh, don't I know it! lol

And it's ok if the typical trolls come in and throw down some flaming and insults because the locked debaters have the privilege of not responding and shouldn't expect to respond as they are focused on serious 1 on 1 debate with their counterpart.

it's to be expected that the normal flaming, joking, porn linking, and off topic bs will still permeate good threads.  But if two people are locked down into debate..they should know to focus on their counterpart and not be obliged to respond to the bs or other frivelous challenges.  If they wish to lock into another 1 on 1 in the same thread, they can if they can handle it, of course.

I dont' want to define too much of this idea as it should be left to personal flexibility.  I'm just suggesting the ** 1 on 1 ** tag to be used or something like it.  Of course, it will have to be shown by example so I will begin using it..and if it catches on (just like "/sarcasm" has), then sweet!
But it's more interesting if it's a locked thread for two people and the rest can sit and enjoy the debate.  It will be cleaner too, since only the two allowed people will be posting in there.
Kung Jew
That one mod
+331|7003|Houston, TX
This topic has been restarted as a poll.  Please pos any further comments in here.

Thanks,

KJ

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