Beatdown Patrol
Member
+1|6989
hmmm...pretty one-sided statement given the fact that games would not be were they are at right now if it were not for the 30 and even 40-something crowd.  Contrary to popular belief that the "younger" crowd is driving game sales, the big money making hits and "game of the year" awards are going to Mature rated games or sports titles.  Why?  First off, we were the pioneers for everything you see today.  Game developers KNOW that the ol' skool OG's (Original Gamers) have grown up and are looking for content that is more adult and cators to their tastes.  Gran Theft Auto's Vice City and San Andreas took place in time periods that today's teens and young adults can't even relate because they were either not alive or only 4 years old.  I am in my mid-30s and I completely loved those games because it put me in the 'way-back' machine about what I was doing in my life during the time.  Nostalgia heaven.

Console games sales boil down to shooters and sports games.  After a 10 year run, fighting games have waned in popularity (finally).  For 2004, here were the big sellers:

http://www.npdfunworld.com/funServlet?n … nt_id=2079
Note that there are 3 Mature rated games and 4 sports titles (no...Need for Speed does not count).


In terms of PC games, there are 4 big genres are 1st Person shooters, Real-time Strategy, Simulations (including flight and racing), with MMORPGs becoming a major force.  In 2004, we had Half-Life 2, World of Warcraft, Far Cry, The Chronicles of Riddick - Butcher Bay, Unreal Tournament '04, PainKiller, City of Heros, Doom 3, Warhammer 30,000 - Dawn of War, Rome: Total War, The Sims, Rise of Nations.
7 Mature Titles.

This year?  Battlefield 2, F.E.A.R, Quake 4, GTA: SA, Call to Duty 2, Fable, Prince of Persia, Civilization IV,  Sims 2, World of Warcraft (again), Vampire: the Masquerade, Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow, and probably more.  However, of these well known hits,  the majority of them are again, Mature Titles.

The bottom line, if you think that these game developers are making video and pc games aimed at 15 and 16 year olds, you have not been taking a look at what is selling on the shelves.  Of course, they also hope that these Mature Rated games make it into the hands of minors for some extra sales, but still...they don't really have them in mind when designing the game.  Mature Rated games sell with the only exception being the Sims because women are playing that in significant amounts.

- Beatdown
Sgt.Gene
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+215|7014

TheDrNailsGuy wrote:

OH, and SRG, how much time on the internet do you spend? Watching tv?  How do you pick up chicks if your spending your time right now on the internet?................wait, I think I know the answer to this one!
lets see... its Sgt about 6 hours a week for the net about 3 hours for the tv and i dont know how i could be picking up chicks at like 1:30 am dont forget iam 15 i dont go bar hopping most of the girls my age are probably at their houses becuase it is like u know 1:30 am time for normal people to sleep.
Tomdom_321.au
Member
+1|6987|bendigo, Aus
i dont really have a side to this even tho im 12

What i do hate tho is when the older gamers dont respect our actual gaming ability and start cracking gayass jokes.
Sgt.Gene
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+215|7014

DarkStar wrote:

The fact is that there is now a whole generation of gamers right now that are older than 19.  People who grew up on Atari are in their late 20's and into their 30's now.  I happen to be 28 and game almost everyday.  I also have a college degree, married, and own a house.  People like Sgt.Gene like to take the stereotypical video game nerd and apply it to everyone beyond a given age and that's 100% wrong.
mostly because all of the people that are over 19 and play are always talling about them selves being uber leet and pwn'ing noobs. seems to me that that kind of talk falls under the sterotypical "nerd" behavior
Sgt.Gene
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+215|7014

Tomdom_321.au wrote:

i dont really have a side to this even tho im 12

What i do hate tho is when the older gamers dont respect our actual gaming ability and start cracking gayass jokes.
hmmm... maybe they crack those jokes because they have no maturity and never grew up. they are still living in high school where they were free to crack on people without reason
Lib-Sl@yer
Member
+32|6963|Wherever the F**k i feel like

Jerry_Signfeld wrote:

Far wrote:

34 here.
When I was 18 I wasn't in the house enough to game like I do now.
I was too busy getting laid and into trouble... trying to not mix the two.
So to the question I say, if you're a teenager and are able to put in the kind of hours that someone over the age of 19 can... then you need a life
NICE!!!!!!!!!!!

BTW..Who pays for the games you get..Mom and dad? "Make sure you take the trash out before I get home.Or Im gonna take your PC away from you!"
my parents cant take it away we have an agreement that they cant take shit away i paid for myself
Sgt.Gene
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+215|7014

Hyper wrote:

ya
he's (SRG) the fucking geek from all the acne commercials i saw as a kid.

OH JEEZ MAAWWW.....I GOTS A PIMPLEEEEEEE
yep thats me...
Sgt.Gene
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+215|7014

Lib-Sl@yer wrote:

Jerry_Signfeld wrote:

Far wrote:

34 here.
When I was 18 I wasn't in the house enough to game like I do now.
I was too busy getting laid and into trouble... trying to not mix the two.
So to the question I say, if you're a teenager and are able to put in the kind of hours that someone over the age of 19 can... then you need a life
NICE!!!!!!!!!!!

BTW..Who pays for the games you get..Mom and dad? "Make sure you take the trash out before I get home.Or Im gonna take your PC away from you!"
my parents cant take it away we have an agreement that they cant take shit away i paid for myself
nice... i pay for all my shit to. like mt PC and Bf2 and all that other shit i own
DarkStar
Member
+0|7043|Atlanta, Ga

Sgt.Gene wrote:

DarkStar wrote:

The fact is that there is now a whole generation of gamers right now that are older than 19.  People who grew up on Atari are in their late 20's and into their 30's now.  I happen to be 28 and game almost everyday.  I also have a college degree, married, and own a house.  People like Sgt.Gene like to take the stereotypical video game nerd and apply it to everyone beyond a given age and that's 100% wrong.
mostly because all of the people that are over 19 and play are always talling about them selves being uber leet and pwn'ing noobs. seems to me that that kind of talk falls under the sterotypical "nerd" behavior
Im sorry Gene, but the only time I ever hear that kind of talk is from younger gamers like yourself.  I game to have fun, not to pwn n00bs or whatever.

Last edited by DarkStar (2005-12-19 23:34:13)

SharkyMcshark
I'll take two
+132|7036|Perth, Western Australia
Sgt.Gene, you have to be younger than 14, I would say 13. This because from looking at your stats I can say that you enjoy playing this game regularly. If you were above this age you would realise that you probably would keep on gaming past 19 because you seem to enjoy it so much.

So what, you think that you will reach 19, and thats it. BANG, you've hit the wall, time to stop? I find this very unlikely. I am proud to say that i will probably be gaming for the rest of my life (might have to stop VOip sometime around when i hit 60, might scare the little ones), and actually look forward to gaming beyond 19 because I will be able to build my own Super Happy Death Ray Computer with all of the latest parts in it.

So, Gene, fess up, how old are you?

It is people like you who give younger gamers a bad name.

PS Look at his stats! Him and his good friend ~THE_LOTUS_POD~ seem to have been playing a lot together... Padder Padder Padder (sorry i could not resist but this guy is getting on my nerves)

Last edited by SharkyMcshark (2005-12-19 23:36:16)

Beatdown Patrol
Member
+1|6989

Sgt.Gene wrote:

seriously people who are over 19 and play excessivley are just losers who have no life. for real think about you are 20 years old and sitting in your parents basement playing bf2 with your favorite white dockers shirt and a pocket protector on and a dream of being #1 in bf2. i would like to make this statment VIDEO GAMES ARE FOR KIDS!!!!!!!!!!!!! and dont hand me that esrb rating bullshit companies make games violent to specifically target the youth. there could be better things u could be doing like going to parties maybe meeting girls if u losers arent to fucking too shy to even look. my opinion but i lugh at people over 19 playing video games because it is in fact true they have no lives if you are an adult u can basically do what ever u want but u choose to play video games and make fun of people that are younger than u and talk about how u have an uber l337 gaming machin and that u can pwn any little noob that comes around. for real get a life its time to pull your heads out of your asses take a nice breath of air and go kill your self.
From your flaming tirade, either you are a very young person who's parents don't know that you are on their computer or you are a young person who is tired of getting pasted in games by an older person.

I suggest you take a look at these numbers and then change your perception, because your posting makes you sound astoundingly ignorant.

http://www.theesa.com/facts/gamer_data.php

39%.....THIRTY-NINE PERCENT of frequent PC game players are OVER the age of 35.
25%.....a full quarter of the entire market for console game players are over the age of 35.

So please keep in mind, that statistically...when you get your ass straight punished in BF2, it is almost a 40% chance that the person who pulled the trigger was over 35.  The other 26% are still likely to be over your self proclaimed age of 18.  So in all, that totals out at around 66%.

Hmmm...looks more like you are the loser that is not "in the know."

- Beatdown

Last edited by Beatdown Patrol (2005-12-19 23:40:25)

Sgt.Gene
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+215|7014

SharkyMcshark wrote:

Sgt.Gene, you have to be younger than 14, I would say 13. This because from looking at your stats I can say that you enjoy playing this game regularly. If you were above this age you would realise that you probably would keep on gaming past 19 because you seem to enjoy it so much.

So what, you think that you will reach 19, and thats it. BANG, you've hit the wall, time to stop? I find this very unlikely. I am proud to say that i will probably be gaming for the rest of my life (might have to stop VOip sometime around when i hit 60, might scare the little ones), and actually look forward to gaming beyond 19 because I will be able to build my own Super Happy Death Ray Computer with all of the latest parts in it.

So, Gene, fess up, how old are you?

It is people like you who give younger gamers a bad name.

PS Look at his stats! Him and his good friend ~THE_LOTUS_POD~ seem to have been playing a lot together... Padder Padder Padder (sorry i could not resist but this guy is getting on my nerves)
iam actually 15. lol yes i have to shamefully admit i have done some statpadding but it was when the game first came out and i really didnt know what i was doing. o and ~the_lotus_pod~ was one of my victims not a friend me and this guy i was playing with found him because he was commander and just knifed the crap out of him. and i will probably stop playing this game around march or when ever the PS3 comes out. i will probably "grow up" when iam about 17 and finally stop wasting my time on gaming
Sgt.Gene
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+215|7014

Beatdown Patrol wrote:

Sgt.Gene wrote:

seriously people who are over 19 and play excessivley are just losers who have no life. for real think about you are 20 years old and sitting in your parents basement playing bf2 with your favorite white dockers shirt and a pocket protector on and a dream of being #1 in bf2. i would like to make this statment VIDEO GAMES ARE FOR KIDS!!!!!!!!!!!!! and dont hand me that esrb rating bullshit companies make games violent to specifically target the youth. there could be better things u could be doing like going to parties maybe meeting girls if u losers arent to fucking too shy to even look. my opinion but i lugh at people over 19 playing video games because it is in fact true they have no lives if you are an adult u can basically do what ever u want but u choose to play video games and make fun of people that are younger than u and talk about how u have an uber l337 gaming machin and that u can pwn any little noob that comes around. for real get a life its time to pull your heads out of your asses take a nice breath of air and go kill your self.
From your flaming tirade, either you are a very young person who's parents don't know that you are on their computer or you are a young person who is tired of getting pasted in games by an older person.

I suggest you take a look at these numbers and then change your perception, because your posting makes you sound astoundingly ignorant.

http://www.theesa.com/facts/gamer_data.php

39%.....THIRTY-NINE PERCENT of frequent PC game players are OVER the age of 35.
25%.....a full quarter of the entire market for console game players are over the age of 35.

So please keep in mind, that statistically...when you get your ass straight punished in BF2, it is almost a 40% chance that the person who pulled the trigger was over 35.  The other 26% are still likely to be over your self proclaimed age of 18.  So in all, that totals out at around 66%.

Hmmm...looks more like you are the loser that is not "in the know."

- Beatdown
well u see i dont give a flying fuck about statistics. hmmm... calling me ignorant are you... thems sounds like fightin words.. seriously were u bullied and beat up in high school because u show signs of it
Beatdown Patrol
Member
+1|6989

Sgt.Gene wrote:

well u see i dont give a flying fuck about statistics. hmmm... calling me ignorant are you... thems sounds like fightin words.. seriously were u bullied and beat up in high school because u show signs of it
That in itself is a lie, because you are a STAT PADDER!!!!

::OMG...this guy is a 'tard.  Just responding to him is making me dumber::

- Beatdown
[MC]RG-Conan
Member
+0|7006|Ventura, CA

Sgt.Gene wrote:

. and i dont waste time i play for about an hour a day.
An hour a day? You have 235 hours on ranked BF2 servers alone. The game came out in late June. It's now late December. That's 235 hours divided by 180 days. That's 1.3 hrs per day of BF2 alone. I'm sure you play other games while you're not wasting time posting and reposting egotistically on forums. C'mon. You're deluding yourself.
Sgt.Gene
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+215|7014

Beatdown Patrol wrote:

Sgt.Gene wrote:

well u see i dont give a flying fuck about statistics. hmmm... calling me ignorant are you... thems sounds like fightin words.. seriously were u bullied and beat up in high school because u show signs of it
That in itself is a lie, because you are a STAT PADDER!!!!

::OMG...this guy is a 'tard.  Just responding to him is making me dumber::

- Beatdown
hmm... lets see if u can fucking read... FORMER STAT PADDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and y the fuck do u care anyways???
y the fuck do u continue to post does it give u a hard on arguing with a 15 year old. pls pls just stfu and go kill your self
notorious
Nay vee, bay bee.
+1,396|6997|The United Center
to be honest, i read a few posts on here and i disagree with all of them.  i'm not here to flame anyone (for once) so here's my story.

yeah, i play games and yes, i'll be 21 in about a month.  have a life?  i'm pretty sure i already have one.  i go to school full time in a different country, i play hockey four times a week, i'm on the school soccer team, i go out about two nights a week, and yes, i still find time to play games.  i don't see anything wrong with gaming no matter how old you are.  i definitely consider it a hobby of mine.  it's fun, it passes the time, and when it's exam time, nothing relieves stress like a good round of battlefield2.

the games i play are: bf2, aoe3, and nhl06.  theyre all fun to just pick up and play and none of them are geared toward little kids.  bf2 is just flat out fun.  the whole aoe series is actually pretty educational.  and i'm a huge hockey fan, so nhl06 just comes naturally.

now if you want to go around throwing accusations and making stereotypes, be my guest.  however, it only says that much more about what kind of character you are.  besides, since when does age matter in video games?  skill is skill, fun is fun.
notorious
Nay vee, bay bee.
+1,396|6997|The United Center

Sgt.Gene wrote:

Beatdown Patrol wrote:

Sgt.Gene wrote:

well u see i dont give a flying fuck about statistics. hmmm... calling me ignorant are you... thems sounds like fightin words.. seriously were u bullied and beat up in high school because u show signs of it
That in itself is a lie, because you are a STAT PADDER!!!!

::OMG...this guy is a 'tard.  Just responding to him is making me dumber::

- Beatdown
hmm... lets see if u can fucking read... FORMER STAT PADDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and y the fuck do u care anyways???
y the fuck do u continue to post does it give u a hard on arguing with a 15 year old. pls pls just stfu and go kill your self
calm down.  seriously.  thats just uncalled for.
TheDrNailsGuy
Member
+5|6967

Sgt.Gene wrote:

TheDrNailsGuy wrote:

Sgt.Gene wrote:

seriously people who are over 19 and play excessivley are just losers who have no life. for real think about you are 20 years old and sitting in your parents basement playing bf2 with your favorite white dockers shirt and a pocket protector on and a dream of being #1 in bf2. i would like to make this statment VIDEO GAMES ARE FOR KIDS!!!!!!!!!!!!! and dont hand me that esrb rating bullshit companies make games violent to specifically target the youth. there could be better things u could be doing like going to parties maybe meeting girls if u losers arent to fucking too shy to even look. my opinion but i lugh at people over 19 playing video games because it is in fact true they have no lives if you are an adult u can basically do what ever u want but u choose to play video games and make fun of people that are younger than u and talk about how u have an uber l337 gaming machin and that u can pwn any little noob that comes around. for real get a life its time to pull your heads out of your asses take a nice breath of air and go kill your self.
^^^^^
LOL.   I've got a question for you........If a person who "lives with their parents and plays games" is a looser fagot, than what kind of faggot is a person who has enough time to go to a website that has NO relivence in THEIR lives, register, and tell everyone their how much time THEY waste?
hmmm... first off i never said a person who lives with their parents and plays games is a loser faggot. in case u misunderstood me i meant a person over the age of 19. lol... relivence ok time to put on those reading glasses so u can see the small print in the dictionary its relevance. i registered about 4 months ago. hmmm and by NO relevence u must mean i dont play the game. which is odd because i do have a sig hmmm... and i dont waste time i play for about an hour a day. but this seems a bit odd u seem to be defending your self pretty hard are you trying to hide something here?
Ok my psuedo intellectual friend..........Pull those reading glasses back out!

If you look in the above quote, you will see you called us(because I am 23 and play video games that emplies me) ................drumroll................"LOOSERS".  It's in the 2nd line!

Sgt.Gene wrote:

RONIN6969001 wrote:

ok im 22  and i work full time go to college full time and have a part time building computers and i sill take time out to play BF2   and for your dinky computers      yea     you can not even compare yours with mine
exactly my point... get a life u faggot and stop playing video games
^^^^Hope you still have those reading glasses on because you called this guy a faggot because he plays video games.   It's right their in your response. Calling a group of people loosers, then calling them faggots  is the same as calling them looser faggots.

It shows you registered 10.20.2005........that's 2 months ago, not four..........

How many hours have you logged?  235 and some change?  out of 5 months and 20 days?  that's about 170 days.  in 170 days, you've played over 235 hours of this game.  that's about 1.4 hours a day.  Now, i'm willing to bet you  didn't get to play every single day.  So, I'm going out on a limb here and saying you spent a good deal at your little computer there.  I doubt you only play that game and get right off considering you find time to insult someone on the enternet.

Am I defending myself?  Trying to hide something? Nope, I just take pleasure in pointing out stupidity.  You're like that dumbass that sits at the greenlight , except i get to tell you how dumb you are. show you how stupid you are in front of others.  Not my fault you run your mouth.
TheDrNailsGuy
Member
+5|6967

Sgt.Gene wrote:

TheDrNailsGuy wrote:

OH, and SRG, how much time on the internet do you spend? Watching tv?  How do you pick up chicks if your spending your time right now on the internet?................wait, I think I know the answer to this one!
lets see... its Sgt about 6 hours a week for the net about 3 hours for the tv and i dont know how i could be picking up chicks at like 1:30 am dont forget iam 15 i dont go bar hopping most of the girls my age are probably at their houses becuase it is like u know 1:30 am time for normal people to sleep.
lets see..........6 hours a week?  kind of hard to rack up 235 hours in 170 days if you only spend 6 hours a week.

Last edited by TheDrNailsGuy (2005-12-19 23:58:39)

notorious
Nay vee, bay bee.
+1,396|6997|The United Center
gene, you do realize the irony in posting this on a website created by someone who is over 19 and plays BF2, yes?  if it wasnt for over 19 gamers, this website wouldnt exist.  hell, games wouldnt exist.  who do you think programmers and designers are?  theyre gamers. 

so please, refrain.  your argument is flawed from the start.
nitro92
I cheat.
+-6|7052|Sydney, Australia
wtf hel no im oly 14 but most online FPS games r played by people like 16-30 i mean ive seen guys in there mid 30ies with kids and stuff playing in the midle of the night
Sgt.Gene
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+215|7014

ThomasMorgan wrote:

to be honest, i read a few posts on here and i disagree with all of them.  i'm not here to flame anyone (for once) so here's my story.

yeah, i play games and yes, i'll be 21 in about a month.  have a life?  i'm pretty sure i already have one.  i go to school full time in a different country, i play hockey four times a week, i'm on the school soccer team, i go out about two nights a week, and yes, i still find time to play games.  i don't see anything wrong with gaming no matter how old you are.  i definitely consider it a hobby of mine.  it's fun, it passes the time, and when it's exam time, nothing relieves stress like a good round of battlefield2.

the games i play are: bf2, aoe3, and nhl06.  theyre all fun to just pick up and play and none of them are geared toward little kids.  bf2 is just flat out fun.  the whole aoe series is actually pretty educational.  and i'm a huge hockey fan, so nhl06 just comes naturally.

now if you want to go around throwing accusations and making stereotypes, be my guest.  however, it only says that much more about what kind of character you are.  besides, since when does age matter in video games?  skill is skill, fun is fun.
hmmm... yes i agree this whole topic started though because of another topic about a certain person talking shit because he was older. iam merely standing up for my right of freedom of speech. im not going to let some fucking ass hole talk shit when i know he is wrong. does that make me a bad person. maybe everyone anymore should just keep their opinions to their selves. do u people see what it is making us in to i was just merely satting that most not all most of the people over 19 are little queers who just talk about their uber leet machine and pwning noobs. Not all people over 19 are faggots who constantly flame little kids and bitch but some are. i know most of you people cant see this from my perspective but take a look at your selves. u r making fun of like 14 and 15 year old kids. wtf is up with u are u such a pathetic little homo that u have to stoop to the level of makinf fun of 14 and 15 year olds.
Tomdom_321.au
Member
+1|6987|bendigo, Aus

SharkyMcshark wrote:

Sgt.Gene, you have to be younger than 14, I would say 13. This because from looking at your stats I can say that you enjoy playing this game regularly. If you were above this age you would realise that you probably would keep on gaming past 19 because you seem to enjoy it so much.

So what, you think that you will reach 19, and thats it. BANG, you've hit the wall, time to stop? I find this very unlikely. I am proud to say that i will probably be gaming for the rest of my life (might have to stop VOip sometime around when i hit 60, might scare the little ones), and actually look forward to gaming beyond 19 because I will be able to build my own Super Happy Death Ray Computer with all of the latest parts in it.

So, Gene, fess up, how old are you?

It is people like you who give younger gamers a bad name.

PS Look at his stats! Him and his good friend ~THE_LOTUS_POD~ seem to have been playing a lot together... Padder Padder Padder (sorry i could not resist but this guy is getting on my nerves)
lol nice argument.

bet ya $10 he'll be playing till hes in his 60's
chitlin
Banned
+36|7013
developers #1 aim is the 18-35 demograhpic .. why ? becuase they actually have money ..theres not as much money to be made aiming at little 14 year olds who have to cry to mommy to spend

battlefield 2 isnt inteded for little kids its a war simulation adult in nature

and i think its the exact opposite when i was 14-19 i didnt sped any my free time sitting in front of a computer or watchign tv all the time.. i was out playing sports or trying to have fun with parties girls etc.. more accurately if youre under the age of 19 you need to go experience life instead of wasting your youth in front of a computer screen..

let me know when you have a job / life to wind down from instead of worrying about zits, when your mommy will give you your allowance, or when you can stop jerking off and actually find a girl =p

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