Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6858|132 and Bush

Mideast terror leaders
to U.S.: Vote Democrat
Withdrawal from Iraq would embolden
jihadists to destroy Israel, America
Posted: November 2, 2006
9:27 a.m. Eastern

By Aaron Klein
© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com


Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass.
JERUSALEM – Everybody has an opinion about next Tuesday's midterm congressional election in the U.S. – including senior terrorist leaders interviewed by WND who say they hope Americans sweep the Democrats into power because of the party's position on withdrawing from Iraq, a move, as they see it, that ensures victory for the worldwide Islamic resistance.

The terrorists told WorldNetDaily an electoral win for the Democrats would prove to them Americans are "tired."

They rejected statements from some prominent Democrats in the U.S. that a withdrawal from Iraq would end the insurgency, explaining an evacuation would prove resistance works and would compel jihadists to continue fighting until America is destroyed.

They said a withdrawal would also embolden their own terror groups to enhance "resistance" against Israel.

"Of course Americans should vote Democrat," Jihad Jaara, a senior member of the Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades terror group and the infamous leader of the 2002 siege of Bethlehem's Church of the Nativity, told WND.

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"This is why American Muslims will support the Democrats, because there is an atmosphere in America that encourages those who want to withdraw from Iraq. It is time that the American people support those who want to take them out of this Iraqi mud," said Jaara, speaking to WND from exile in Ireland, where he was sent as part of an internationally brokered deal that ended the church siege.

Jaara was the chief in Bethlehem of the Brigades, the declared "military wing" of Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas' Fatah party.

Together with the Islamic Jihad terror group, the Brigades has taken responsibility for every suicide bombing inside Israel the past two years, including an attack in Tel Aviv in April that killed American teenager Daniel Wultz and nine Israelis.

Muhammad Saadi, a senior leader of Islamic Jihad in the northern West Bank town of Jenin, said the Democrats' talk of withdrawal from Iraq makes him feel "proud."

"As Arabs and Muslims we feel proud of this talk," he told WND. "Very proud from the great successes of the Iraqi resistance. This success that brought the big superpower of the world to discuss a possible withdrawal."

Abu Abdullah, a leader of Hamas' military wing in the Gaza Strip, said the policy of withdrawal "proves the strategy of the resistance is the right strategy against the occupation."

"We warned the Americans that this will be their end in Iraq," said Abu Abdullah, considered one of the most important operational members of Hamas' Izzedine al-Qassam Martyrs Brigades, Hamas' declared "resistance" department. "They did not succeed in stealing Iraq's oil, at least not at a level that covers their huge expenses. They did not bring stability. Their agents in the [Iraqi] regime seem to have no chance to survive if the Americans withdraw."

Abu Ayman, an Islamic Jihad leader in Jenin, said he is "emboldened" by those in America who compare the war in Iraq to Vietnam.

"[The mujahedeen fighters] brought the Americans to speak for the first time seriously and sincerely that Iraq is becoming a new Vietnam and that they should fix a schedule for their withdrawal from Iraq," boasted Abu Ayman.

The terror leaders spoke as the debate regarding the future of America's war in Iraq has perhaps become the central theme of midterm elections, with most Democrats urging a timetable for withdrawal and Republicans mostly advocating staying the course in Iraq.

President Bush has even said he would send more troops if Gen. George Casey, the top U.S. commander in Baghdad, said they are needed to stabilize the region

The debate became especially poignant following remarks by Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., the 2004 presidential candidate who voted in support of the war in Iraq. Earlier this week he intimated American troops are uneducated, and it is the uneducated who "get stuck in Iraq."

Kerry, under intense pressure from fellow Democrats, now says his remarks were a "botched joke."

Terror leaders reject Nancy Pelosi's comments on Iraqi insurgency

Many Democratic politicians and some from the Republican Party have stated a withdrawal from Iraq would end the insurgency there.

In a recent interview with CBS's "60 Minutes," House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, stated, "The jihadists (are) in Iraq. But that doesn't mean we stay there. They'll stay there as long as we're there."

Pelosi would become House speaker if the Democrats win the majority of seats in next week's elections.

WND read Pelosi's remarks to the terror leaders, who unanimously rejected her contention an American withdrawal would end the insurgency.

Islamic Jihad's Saadi, laughing, stated, "There is no chance that the resistance will stop."

He said an American withdrawal from Iraq would "prove the resistance is the most important tool and that this tool works. The victory of the Iraqi revolution will mark an important step in the history of the region and in the attitude regarding the United States."

Jihad Jaara said an American withdrawal would "mark the beginning of the collapse of this tyrant empire (America)."

"Therefore, a victory in Iraq would be a greater defeat for America than in Vietnam."

Jaara said vacating Iraq would also "reinforce Palestinian resistance organizations, especially from the moral point of view. But we also learn from these (insurgency) movements militarily. We look and learn from them."

Hamas' Abu Abdullah argued a withdrawal from Iraq would "convince those among the Palestinians who still have doubts in the efficiency of the resistance."

"The victory of the resistance in Iraq would prove once more that when the will and the faith are applied victory is not only a slogan. We saw that in Lebanon (during Israel's confrontation against Hezbollah there in July and August); we saw it in Gaza (after Israel withdrew from the territory last summer) and we will see it everywhere there is occupation," Abdullah said.

While the terror leaders each independently urged American citizens to vote for Democratic candidates, not all believed the Democrats would actually carry out a withdrawal from Iraq.

Saadi stated, "Unfortunately I think those who are speaking about a withdrawal will not do so when they are in power and these promises will remain electoral slogans. It is not enough to withdraw from Iraq. They must withdraw from Afghanistan and from every Arab and Muslim land they occupy or have bases."

He called both Democrats and Republicans "agents of the Zionist lobby in the U.S."

Abu Abdullah commented once Democrats are in power "the question is whether such a courageous leadership can [withdraw]. I am afraid that even after the American people will elect those who promise to leave Iraq, the U.S. will not do so. I tell the American people vote for withdrawal. Abandon Israel if you want to save America. Now will this Happen? I do not believe it."

Still Jihad Jaara said the alternative is better than Bush's party.

"Bush is a sick person, an alcoholic person that has no control of what is going on around him. He calls to send more troops but will very soon get to the conviction that the violence and terror that his war machine is using in Iraq will never impose policies and political regimes in the Arab world."
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Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6662|North Carolina
As I've said before, Worldnetdaily is about as worthless as Newsmax.  Find a more credible source for this.
SoC./Omega
Member
+122|6798|Omaha, Nebraska!
Fox News said it yesterday morning Turquoise
Thats how sad you democrats are, so sad the terroists want people to vote for you because they know democrats will pull out and it will be a victory for them. See how sad you are?
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6662|North Carolina

SoC./Omega wrote:

Fox News said it yesterday morning Turquoise
Thats how sad you democrats are, so sad the terroists want people to vote for you because they know democrats will pull out and it will be a victory for them. See how sad you are?
Fox News isn't a credible source either.  Try finding a source that is relatively unbiased in either direction.

By the way, I'm a Libertarian, not a Democrat.  I just think it's sad that the Republicans have to resort to this to get support.  Why not focus more on what you're actually going to do to improve our situation?
Jepeto87
Member
+38|6942|Dublin
He said find a credible news source Omega.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6786|Global Command
Turquoise isn't a democrat, I don't believe. But why so quick to dimiss WND? They break a lot of stories that the mainstream media otherwise wouldn't  report on. And because they break those stories, people have to talk about them.
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6813
There is already a thread on this. WND is trash.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-11-04 09:22:14)

Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6662|North Carolina

ATG wrote:

Turquoise isn't a democrat, I don't believe. But why so quick to dimiss WND? They break a lot of stories that the mainstream media otherwise wouldn't  report on. And because they break those stories, people have to talk about them.
Well, as the blogosphere has proven, the speed at which a story breaks often has a relation to the credibility of its analysis.  It's easy for a website to report something before everyone else, if they don't bother with remaining objective.  I think you can judge worldnetdaily by the consistent message that its advertisers have demonstrated.

To show the other side, would you trust a website that mostly had ads supporting the Democrats or some liberal mouthpiece?  I wouldn't.  This is why I don't trust the conservative equivalent either.

Last edited by Turquoise (2006-11-04 09:51:04)

Miller
IT'S MILLER TIME!
+271|7013|United States of America
Ignoring all the above bullshit.  Terrorists want the Dems to win, why? Because they know we will be a giant pussy for them, and let them trample all over us.  Who wouldn't want the dems to win?  They know how to have "peace" within the chaos of them trying to kill us.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6662|North Carolina

Miller wrote:

Ignoring all the above bullshit.  Terrorists want the Dems to win, why? Because they know we will be a giant pussy for them, and let them trample all over us.  Who wouldn't want the dems to win?  They know how to have "peace" within the chaos of them trying to kill us.
On the other hand, Republicans are the ones who are more likely to attack Islamic countries, which provides the necessary hate among their people to side with extremists.  Take Israel's attack on Lebanon, for example.  Before the attacks, Hezbollah was a powerful force among Muslims there.  After the attacks, they've gotten support of even some Christians who were, in the past, enemies of Hezbollah.
Fancy_Pollux
Connoisseur of Fine Wine
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Older than Jesus riding a dinosaur.

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Miller
IT'S MILLER TIME!
+271|7013|United States of America

Turquoise wrote:

Miller wrote:

Ignoring all the above bullshit.  Terrorists want the Dems to win, why? Because they know we will be a giant pussy for them, and let them trample all over us.  Who wouldn't want the dems to win?  They know how to have "peace" within the chaos of them trying to kill us.
On the other hand, Republicans are the ones who are more likely to attack Islamic countries, which provides the necessary hate among their people to side with extremists.  Take Israel's attack on Lebanon, for example.  Before the attacks, Hezbollah was a powerful force among Muslims there.  After the attacks, they've gotten support of even some Christians who were, in the past, enemies of Hezbollah.
I hope they hate us, then they will show their true side, and I am fine with killing them all in the name of "peace".
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6662|North Carolina
Miller, do you realize how close your logic is to the terrorists?  That's basically the same goal they have, but they just want to kill all non-Muslims instead.
Masques
Black Panzer Party
+184|6980|Eastern PA
Funny how WND can get to these terror leaders and the massive intelligence organs of Israel, the US, the EU, and friendly Arab governments can't.
SoC./Omega
Member
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Jepeto87 wrote:

He said find a credible news source Omega.
Fox news is a credible source, and if its not BBC and ABC and CBS + NBC are?
By "you" democrats I didnt mean Turquose I meant ALL DEMOCRATS + LIBERALS!
ghettoperson
Member
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Are you joking? Another topic on this? Please, Kmarion, I did think you were more intelligent than to believe things like this.
MoChief
Member
+67|6859
This story is worthless.  Nobody is voting dem or repub based on what terrorists want or don't want.  People want a logical plan for success, accountability, and competent & truthful administrators.  The republicans have none of these things.  There's no plan for success.... we've been promised by Cheney for more of the same.  Not only have Republicans not held anyone accountable, they actively take strides to make sure there's no accountability.  The auditor in Iraq in charge of ensuring contractors are doing their jobs was nixed by the republican congress.  And the lies are too many to count but my favorites are:

1)  Mission accomplished
2)  Last throes
3)  Turning the corner
4)  Shinseki is exaggerating (on # of troops needed for invasion & containment)
5)  We know where they (WMDs) are... right around Baghdad
6)  Democrats want the terrorists to win and America to lose
7)  You're doing a heckuva job brownie

The GOP has had their shot and they chose cronyism and ideology over competent government.  It's a shame but that's how power works.  Voters will now have their chance on Nov 7 to let them know how they feel about that.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6858|132 and Bush

Turquoise wrote:

As I've said before, Worldnetdaily is about as worthless as Newsmax.  Find a more credible source for this.
The same could be said about the guardian shit that spews all over these forums.

ghettoperson wrote:

Are you joking? Another topic on this? Please, Kmarion, I did think you were more intelligent than to believe things like this.
Perhaps you could use your intelligence to check the post times and see mine was the first.
Unless you consider the poll.

Last edited by Kmarion (2006-11-04 11:29:07)

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Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6662|North Carolina

Kmarion wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

As I've said before, Worldnetdaily is about as worthless as Newsmax.  Find a more credible source for this.
The same could be said about the guardian shit that spews all over these forums.
Agreed...  I've never liked The Guardian.
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|6906

Kmarion wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

As I've said before, Worldnetdaily is about as worthless as Newsmax.  Find a more credible source for this.
The same could be said about the guardian shit that spews all over these forums.

ghettoperson wrote:

Are you joking? Another topic on this? Please, Kmarion, I did think you were more intelligent than to believe things like this.
Perhaps you could use your intelligence to check the post times and see mine was the first.
Unless you consider the poll.
I'm not so bothered as to who did it first, more the topic in general. Sorry if I was a little confusing though.
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6813
One thing I will point out about this trashy blog article:

Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigade is a Palestinian liberation faction - not Al Qaeda. They have no beef with the US - they don't want to attack or harm anyone from the US. They want to attack and harm people from Israel. I'm sure they ain't too happy with the US but they do not pursue US targets. As such I don't see the relevance of his comments on the US mid-terms.

PS It strikes me as fishy that a spokesperson for AAMB would be talking to people like this -

Wikipedia:
WorldNetDaily, also known as WND, is a conservative online news site, founded in 1997. It is considered one of the top online conservative news blogs. WorldNetDaily is a controversial website that provides conservative-oriented news and editorials. Currently the webpage has a staff of approximately 20 people (wow).

In early 2005, WND hired Aaron Klein to run a Jerusalem bureau. Klein's articles have regularly promoted the causes of Israeli settlers in the West Bank and Gaza who oppose Israeli disengagement from those areas. He has frequently written about right-wing Israeli activists tied to the far-right Kach and Kahane Chai movement without disclosing those ties.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-11-04 13:05:46)

KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,979|6889|949

I think the terrorists and the Democrats are in cahoots to create a New World Order, PNAC style.

edit:  This means that a vote for democrats is a vote for the terrorists.

[/sarcasm]

Last edited by KEN-JENNINGS (2006-11-04 13:46:21)

Masques
Black Panzer Party
+184|6980|Eastern PA

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

I think the terrorists and the Democrats are in cahoots to create a New World Order, PNAC style.

edit:  This means that a vote for democrats is a vote for the terrorists.

[/sarcasm]
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Kung Jew
That one mod
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This topic has been discussed previously -- Please use the search feature to find the previous thread. {quote}

Please refer to Why are terrorist leaders supporting Democrats in the U.S. Elections? to continue debate and serious talk.

KJ

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