What do you mean by that statement? It doesn't make any sense to me. Rephrase please because I would like to understand what message you are trying to get across. This isn't an insult it's a genuine request.lowing wrote:
I said this in another one of Cam's anti Israel threads and it turned out to be a thread killer, lets see if it works here.:
The Islamic nations SURROUNDING Israel attacks Israel with a bat, Israel TAKES the bat away from the Islamic nations. In turn the Islamic nations start screaming that Israel STOLE their bat!!
Pretty damned rediculous!!
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Islamic nations attack Israel during the six days war, for example, (USING A BAT) in doing so Israel kicked the ever living shit out of them and those nations lost land ( THEIR BAT). Now all of those nations are screaming that Israel stole their land ( THE BAT).CameronPoe wrote:
What do you mean by that statement? It doesn't make any sense to me. Rephrase please because I would like to understand what message you are trying to get across. This isn't an insult it's a genuine request.lowing wrote:
I said this in another one of Cam's anti Israel threads and it turned out to be a thread killer, lets see if it works here.:
The Islamic nations SURROUNDING Israel attacks Israel with a bat, Israel TAKES the bat away from the Islamic nations. In turn the Islamic nations start screaming that Israel STOLE their bat!!
Pretty damned rediculous!!
This thread will degrade into a bunch of "Israel is a terrorist state" whining.
Well of course they're going to keep screaming at them and keep working towards the destruction of the state of Israel. That's just common sense. The six day war was justified in their minds so they gave it a lash and lost. I guess you believe that if Hitler had stopped short of invading Russia then he would have been well entitled to settle and integrate Poland and the Czech Republic into Germany?lowing wrote:
Islamic nations attack Israel during the six days war, for example, (USING A BAT) in doing so Israel kicked the ever living shit out of them and those nations lost land ( THEIR BAT). Now all of those nations are screaming that Israel stole their land ( THE BAT).CameronPoe wrote:
What do you mean by that statement? It doesn't make any sense to me. Rephrase please because I would like to understand what message you are trying to get across. This isn't an insult it's a genuine request.lowing wrote:
I said this in another one of Cam's anti Israel threads and it turned out to be a thread killer, lets see if it works here.:
The Islamic nations SURROUNDING Israel attacks Israel with a bat, Israel TAKES the bat away from the Islamic nations. In turn the Islamic nations start screaming that Israel STOLE their bat!!
Pretty damned rediculous!!
QFT - yawnsFancy_Pollux wrote:
This thread will degrade into a bunch of "Israel is a terrorist state" whining.
Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-11-04 05:45:37)
Ummmmmmmm Cam, the moral of the analogy is this......If you are prepared to swing a bat and hit someone , be prepared to lose the damn thing and get hit back. Common Sense would also seem to apply hereCameronPoe wrote:
Well of course they're going to keep screaming at them and keep working towards the destruction of the state of Israel. That's just common sense. The six day war was justified in their minds so they gave it a lash and lost. I guess you believe that if Hitler had stopped short of invading Russia then he would have been well entitled to settle and integrate Poland and the Czech Republic into Germany?lowing wrote:
Islamic nations attack Israel during the six days war, for example, (USING A BAT) in doing so Israel kicked the ever living shit out of them and those nations lost land ( THEIR BAT). Now all of those nations are screaming that Israel stole their land ( THE BAT).CameronPoe wrote:
What do you mean by that statement? It doesn't make any sense to me. Rephrase please because I would like to understand what message you are trying to get across. This isn't an insult it's a genuine request.
I will put it down to our level:
If you come at me with a bat, if I can, I am going to get that bat from you and beat you senseless with it.
It is the fact that you would then start screaming abuse and thievery that I stole your bat and hit you that I find ridiculous and ironic and pretty fuckin stupid.
Last edited by lowing (2006-11-04 05:56:14)
Lowing, you read the news, I'm sure. So, don't come with this idea of poor Israel, surrounded by the criminals. Everyday I read how Israel killed xxx people. I don't support the killing from the other side either. But Israel ain't innocent, is a big part of this conflict.lowing wrote:
any chance it might mean Israel being left alone to exist?sergeriver wrote:
For most people it means Israel getting all the land, bringing enforced democracy to all the countries in the Middle East. I don't endorse this idea. You won't stop terrorism with these things, you will get it stronger.Marconius wrote:
Fine, if you are going to keep posting this topic with such polarized expectations for answers, I will ask this question:
What defines a "Win" for the west?
You guys act like Israel is the one surrounding the Islamic nations. Why don't you entertain the idea that if the ME quit fucking with Israel and co-exist with it, peace might also break out in the ME. Unless of course you can prove the Jews have no right to live in the ME. I am only wondering this since their history in the ME goes JUST as far back as does the Muslims.
I said this in another one of Cam's anti Israel threads and it turned out to be a thread killer, lets see if it works here.:
The Islamic nations SURROUNDING Israel attacks Israel with a bat, Israel TAKES the bat away from the Islamic nations. In turn the Islamic nations start screaming that Israel STOLE their bat!!
Pretty damned rediculous!!
If you don't vote "go fuck yourself" then the terrorists win.
Yes of course but it doesn't justify Israel illegally occupying their lands.lowing wrote:
Ummmmmmmm Cam, the moral of the analogy is this......If you are prepared to swing a bat and hit someone , be prapared to lose the damn thing and get hit back. Common Sense would also seem to apply hereCameronPoe wrote:
Well of course they're going to keep screaming at them and keep working towards the destruction of the state of Israel. That's just common sense. The six day war was justified in their minds so they gave it a lash and lost. I guess you believe that if Hitler had stopped short of invading Russia then he would have been well entitled to settle and integrate Poland and the Czech Republic into Germany?lowing wrote:
Islamic nations attack Israel during the six days war, for example, (USING A BAT) in doing so Israel kicked the ever living shit out of them and those nations lost land ( THEIR BAT). Now all of those nations are screaming that Israel stole their land ( THE BAT).
Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-11-04 05:55:10)
Yeah self defense is a big no no I guess.sergeriver wrote:
Lowing, you read the news, I'm sure. So, don't come with this idea of poor Israel, surrounded by the criminals. Everyday I read how Israel killed xxx people. I don't support the killing from the other side either. But Israel ain't innocent, is a big part of this conflict.lowing wrote:
any chance it might mean Israel being left alone to exist?sergeriver wrote:
For most people it means Israel getting all the land, bringing enforced democracy to all the countries in the Middle East. I don't endorse this idea. You won't stop terrorism with these things, you will get it stronger.
You guys act like Israel is the one surrounding the Islamic nations. Why don't you entertain the idea that if the ME quit fucking with Israel and co-exist with it, peace might also break out in the ME. Unless of course you can prove the Jews have no right to live in the ME. I am only wondering this since their history in the ME goes JUST as far back as does the Muslims.
I said this in another one of Cam's anti Israel threads and it turned out to be a thread killer, lets see if it works here.:
The Islamic nations SURROUNDING Israel attacks Israel with a bat, Israel TAKES the bat away from the Islamic nations. In turn the Islamic nations start screaming that Israel STOLE their bat!!
Pretty damned rediculous!!
I can list countless articles about what Islamic terrorists has done to threaten the world. How many can you list as to who Israel has attacked or even threatened beyond the nations surrounding it and calling for its destruction?
Israel got that land defending itself form invaders, if you don't want to lose your bat, don't swing it at someone who can take it from you. Are you forgetting that it WASN'T Israel who started all the wars?CameronPoe wrote:
Yes of course but it doesn't justify Israel illegally occupying their lands.lowing wrote:
Ummmmmmmm Cam, the moral of the analogy is this......If you are prepared to swing a bat and hit someone , be prapared to lose the damn thing and get hit back. Common Sense would also seem to apply hereCameronPoe wrote:
Well of course they're going to keep screaming at them and keep working towards the destruction of the state of Israel. That's just common sense. The six day war was justified in their minds so they gave it a lash and lost. I guess you believe that if Hitler had stopped short of invading Russia then he would have been well entitled to settle and integrate Poland and the Czech Republic into Germany?
Israel didn't start the invasion of Egypt in 1956 for the Suez Canal? 11 years prior to the 6 days war? Israel expected to not get attacked after having taken the Sinai Peninsula in a war IT started?lowing wrote:
Israel got that land defending itself form invaders, if you don't want to lose your bat, don't swing it at someone who can take it from you. Are you forgetting that it WASN'T Israel who started all the wars?CameronPoe wrote:
Yes of course but it doesn't justify Israel illegally occupying their lands.lowing wrote:
Ummmmmmmm Cam, the moral of the analogy is this......If you are prepared to swing a bat and hit someone , be prapared to lose the damn thing and get hit back. Common Sense would also seem to apply here
Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-11-04 06:27:47)
During July Israel killed more than 1000 Lebanese people, where does that fit?lowing wrote:
Yeah self defense is a big no no I guess.sergeriver wrote:
Lowing, you read the news, I'm sure. So, don't come with this idea of poor Israel, surrounded by the criminals. Everyday I read how Israel killed xxx people. I don't support the killing from the other side either. But Israel ain't innocent, is a big part of this conflict.lowing wrote:
any chance it might mean Israel being left alone to exist?
You guys act like Israel is the one surrounding the Islamic nations. Why don't you entertain the idea that if the ME quit fucking with Israel and co-exist with it, peace might also break out in the ME. Unless of course you can prove the Jews have no right to live in the ME. I am only wondering this since their history in the ME goes JUST as far back as does the Muslims.
I said this in another one of Cam's anti Israel threads and it turned out to be a thread killer, lets see if it works here.:
The Islamic nations SURROUNDING Israel attacks Israel with a bat, Israel TAKES the bat away from the Islamic nations. In turn the Islamic nations start screaming that Israel STOLE their bat!!
Pretty damned rediculous!!
I can list countless articles about what Islamic terrorists has done to threaten the world. How many can you list as to who Israel has attacked or even threatened beyond the nations surrounding it and calling for its destruction?
If you can tell me the context of their deaths, were they sitting at home watching tv minding their own business when Israel broke in and killed them?. Were they engaged in battle with Israel?sergeriver wrote:
During July Israel killed more than 1000 Lebanese people, where does that fit?lowing wrote:
Yeah self defense is a big no no I guess.sergeriver wrote:
Lowing, you read the news, I'm sure. So, don't come with this idea of poor Israel, surrounded by the criminals. Everyday I read how Israel killed xxx people. I don't support the killing from the other side either. But Israel ain't innocent, is a big part of this conflict.
I can list countless articles about what Islamic terrorists has done to threaten the world. How many can you list as to who Israel has attacked or even threatened beyond the nations surrounding it and calling for its destruction?
also answer my previous questions please
Last edited by lowing (2006-11-04 06:26:07)
They were mostly civilians and no Israel doesn't call for jihad, Israel uses top notch weapons without warnings.lowing wrote:
If you can tell me the context of their deaths, were they sitting at home watching tv minding their own business when Israel broke in and killed them?. Were they engaged in battle with Israel?sergeriver wrote:
During July Israel killed more than 1000 Lebanese people, where does that fit?lowing wrote:
Yeah self defense is a big no no I guess.
I can list countless articles about what Islamic terrorists has done to threaten the world. How many can you list as to who Israel has attacked or even threatened beyond the nations surrounding it and calling for its destruction?
also answer my previous questions please
when you say win the war on terrorism do you mean the removal of governments full of violent religious fanatics?
Had to vote go fuck yourself, because no one can win the war of terror.
The war on terror will end when there is no-one left on this planet.jonsimon wrote:
Had to vote go fuck yourself, because no one can win the war of terror.
if western goverment destroy terroists and terrorists would destroy the goverment ,not harming any civilianz that would be nice.
I agree. In addition to this, the American government must stop supporting dictators. For example, we have allied with the leader of Kazakhstan in the War on Terror, which seems like a really bad idea when you consider how authoritarian he is. He may be more pro-Western than a lot of his neighbors, but he's still not a reputable leader.ATG wrote:
I'll bite.
An end to the state sponcering of terrorism.
Saddam was giving money to the familes of suicide bombers. Hugo Chavez allows Farc narco-terrorist to operate on his borders. Saudi Arabia breeds terrorism in its schools. We need to end this as a acceptable way for governments to do business.
Our own government is guilty of many things, as well. But thats our overall objectives as I see it.
= welcome to the next 100 years war.
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