BF2S Forums Bus driver fired for giving Bush the finger

T1g3r217 wrote:

What is a school run?

When they do a run with school students going from school to dropoffs, off the normal public routes.

Seriously the excuse that they fired her for doing it in front of the "impressionable students" is ridiculous. I guarantee that those middle school students do more bird flipping in a day than she has done in a lifetime.

And feel sorry for the poor driver, school kids are cunts and they treat the drivers like shit. If I was a driver and kid try to stir me he'd be walkin home.

TeamZephyr wrote:

T1g3r217 wrote:

What is a school run?

When they do a run with school students going from school to dropoffs, off the normal public routes.

Seriously the excuse that they fired her for doing it in front of the "impressionable students" is ridiculous. I guarantee that those middle school students do more bird flipping in a day than she has done in a lifetime.

And feel sorry for the poor driver, school kids are cunts and they treat the drivers like shit. If I was a driver and kid try to stir me he'd be walkin home.

Man Try to comprehend this ok, Ready? Its a COMPANY, The bus has a name plastered on the side of it. Its also A Govt. Funded Employer. IE Tax dollars. Theres certain things you do not do. Now try to get this also, Its called being curtious, and a professional. I sure as hell hope my kids bus driver Is atleast that.

Your atleast right about one thing, I would have kids thrown off the bus, Through proper channels though. Because if you throw them off, you open yourself AND the school distrect to lawsuits. Hint, i use to drive one of those cheese boxes. Yes they can be Pricks, but you take it in stride.

Kmarion wrote:

Did you intentionally try to mislead everyone by naming the topic the way you did?

The bus driver was terminated for making an obscene gesture in view of the students.
People shout profanities and make those kinds of gestures everyday at world leaders.

This would surprise you how? LOL.

You might be on to something here. Ive seen this trend before around here. Quite disturbing really. LOL.

<[onex]>Headstone wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Did you intentionally try to mislead everyone by naming the topic the way you did?

The bus driver was terminated for making an obscene gesture in view of the students.
People shout profanities and make those kinds of gestures everyday at world leaders.

This would surprise you how? LOL.

You might be on to something here. Ive seen this trend before around here. Quite disturbing really. LOL.

Surprised no, important to point out yes.

IRONCHEF wrote:

jonsimon wrote:

IRONCHEF wrote:

oh damn..vikings must have lost!  lol, poor shipbuilder!

On topic, that's a typical thing to expect given the poor political atmosphere in this country.  Had the bus driver been fired for flipping off anyone else, then it was just.  But it's obvious being fired would not have happened.  Damn I am just loving anal republicans more and more as they illustrate poor understanding of our constitutional values and laws.

I think you're blowing this one out of proportion. It really doesn't reflect on republicans at all, the politics involved are those between the employer and employee. The employer wishes its employees to be professional, and if they're caught being unprofessional in a situation where one or more people are upset, or in a situation where publicity is involved, the employer is responsible to clear his or her own name by removing the employee in question.

Out of proportion?  Did you miss my reasoning thus:
Had the bus driver been fired for flipping off anyone else, then it was just.  But it's obvious being fired would not have happened.
If I'm not mistaken, it jives with your comments somewhat regarding the bus company requiring professionalism of it's drivers.   But this is a bit more than that as we can see.  If it were a democrat politician, would it still have happened?  If so, then my blown out of proportion concept would apply.

And I said, if the bus driver had flipped off ANY politician, or ANY person had complained to the employer, then she would have been fired. You're trying too hard to spin this against the republicans. Sure, she wouldn't get fired if she flipped off some bozo and no one noticed, but she didn't. She flipped off an important and well known person. The publicity is bad for the employer, so she got canned. Completely just.

Considering the rule is that the driver shouldn't flip the bird, then maybe you should complain that the rules are bent when she keeps her job for flipping off a nobody. It's completely fair she got fired for doing something stupid and immature.

Its not professional and i bet she regrets it now with that amount of publicity it makes hard to get the same job again.

I would fire her no matter whom she swore at because its just not the done thing when you work you dont do what you do normally because your not representing just youself anymore its the whole company as people have said. Whether any aids helped her get fired is conjecture id imagine, i dont know why they would bother because loads of people dont like him but they may have i will never know.

I think of it like this fire one bus driver and avoid any bad or most of the bad press so to a company its just logical and she obiviously didnt care about her job that much or she might have thought twice.

Last edited by Recoil555 (2006-11-02 17:39:59)

FriiginChomper wrote:

i want to ride in that bus, sounds like a good time. woooooo

It was Mrs.Crabtree

I bet if she flipped off a regular joe then this wouldn't have been so publicized. She probably got fired because flipping off the President cause some bustling that alerted her employers. Had she flipped off a regular joe, most probably would not have cared and her employers would not have been aware of such an incident. Hell, I was riding a school bus when the bus driver gave some dude on the road the finger and everybody just laughed it off.

By reading the title quickly, I thought this thread was going to be about sexual harassment or indecent exposure....

deeznutz1245 wrote:

The_Shipbuilder wrote:

Miller wrote:

Good thing they fired her, maybe she'll learn to have respect.  Oh, I like your sig, though change it from Bush and Cheney, it's over for them.

It's over for the Republican party in general.

Poseidon wrote:

Aren't gestures part of freedom of speech? I never remembered having to respect the president being a law. Sure, she got fired because she threw the gesture and shouldn't have in front of kids, but otherwise she has the right to.

Correct.

Still, this argument against her seems a bit shaky. I'd like to know the back story. If she was fired because the kids saw it and told their parents, that's one thing. But something tells me that it was the result a few quick phone calls made from an aide's mobile from inside one of the cars in the motorcade.

I dunno Ship, you are probably right. No kids even saw it I bet, and the termination was most likely the result of a phone call, however, the driver had a responsibility as an adult and a professional to not make that gesture in an environment where small children could POTENTIALLY see it. She has demonstrated to me that she should not be tasked with transporting such precious cargo if that is how she is going to behave. Emotion got the better of her, she was and still is in the wrong. Perhaps another job with the city but not that one.

Had it been a bus of elderly folk heading off to Vegas than she shouldn't have been fired. However, it was a bus full of school kids and that was her fatal error. And she got fired because she went back to work and bragged to all her coworkers.

Bertster7 wrote:

iNeedUrFace4Soup wrote:

Do you really think the driver would have been fired were it just a normal person walking down the street who got the finger?

Probably not. But it makes no difference. The company were well within their rights to fire her. Whether the same would have happened in a different situation is irrelevant.

But it is relevant.  As I noted in my first post, if the district had not previously used such extreme measures in dealing with the same/similar transgressions of other drivers, it would show that she was singled out because of who was involved.  In this case she will very likely get her job back.

However, if the district can show that they have in fact terminated employees in the past for the same/similar transgressions, then her termination will likely stand.

iNeedUrFace4Soup wrote:

Do you really think the driver would have been fired were it just a normal person walking down the street who got the finger?

According to the news report I just heard...yes.