Aren't they the commandos, or something like that?velocitychaos wrote:
I was there with 3RAR you don't know shit
Not commandos....Airborne Regiment
Right, I knew they weren't regulars. I think my cousin was with 3RAR for a while...........he's certainly had parachute training...........
Are they telling us that?..um noDBBrinson1 wrote:
Think we aren't winning? Think the US isn't making a difference? ABC,CBS,CNN, and the others telling you that?
A fellow Glenn Beck listener? I'm an insider..
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Well I have been deployed to Iraq before and I can tell you, There is deffinatly a lot of good that has been accomplished since the first time I was there. While we built villages and schools back then as well, the new ones are actually standing and in use. Before we would build it and it would get blown up. Same with medical clinics and what not. There is a lot that changed for the worse, but over all the country has changed tremendously for the better.
But what do I know I've only been here twice where as most of you haven't.
But what do I know I've only been here twice where as most of you haven't.
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Well, there you go. you can post pretty much anything from TV or politicians to make things look good or bad, But if a soldier tells you how things are going, that's pretty much undebatable. The debates are so one sided. Not many will say things are still bad but improving and have been improving form day one.CannonFodder11b wrote:
Well I have been deployed to Iraq before and I can tell you, There is deffinatly a lot of good that has been accomplished since the first time I was there. While we built villages and schools back then as well, the new ones are actually standing and in use. Before we would build it and it would get blown up. Same with medical clinics and what not. There is a lot that changed for the worse, but over all the country has changed tremendously for the better.
But what do I know I've only been here twice where as most of you haven't.
EDIT: I am honestly not point fingers BTW.
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Um... that's not what I read. Germany and Japan still had pockets of resistance that fought the Allied forces on a daily basis after the war. Eventually, these resistances were quelled by the Allies, but reconstruction is never an easy thing.CameronPoe wrote:
LOL. Japan and Germany almost totally peacefully went about reconstructıng theır respectıve countrıes post-WWII from what was essentıally square one. I don't see ANY evıdece of that happenıng ın Iraq. Japan and Germany were happy to take aıd from the US to help them reconstruct. The Mehdı army and other very popular IRAQI organısatıons want nothıng to do wıth the US. All across the board, even ın Washıngton, they are concedıng that the coalıtıon presence there ıs makıng thıngs worse. I thınk what we wıll have ın Iraq ıs a faıled state or faıled states. They've managed to do to the US/UK what Afghanıstan dıd to the USSR.
The Japan-Germany/Iraq-Afghanıstan analogy faıls...
Nonetheless, I think the problem with the Germany and Japan analogies is that Iraq is plagued by internal schism. Two major ethnic groups (Sunnis and Shiites) spend more time killing each other than our soldiers. Most of the death and destruction after the war has been Iraqi-on-Iraqi violence. To me, this is even worse than them killing our soldiers, because it implies that peace is hopeless in this region. The only way this is going to work out in our favor is if we split the country into 3 parts by ethnicity. Otherwise, this will ultimately be a total failure.
On the flipside, at least this internal violence has spared more of our soldiers than would otherwise happen. If the Sunnis and Shiites were united against us, we'd be losing a lot more soldiers, so in a twisted sort of way, this situation isn't quite as bad as it could be for us. However, it's about as bad as possible for the Iraqis themselves....
Glenn Beck is on CNN. That should cause a tear in space-time for you guys.
Yea. He laughs about it all the time. He said he wears his W & club gitmo shirts in the halls there to piss people off. I see your back Ikatari (sp)Atakir wrote:
Glenn Beck is on CNN. That should cause a tear in space-time for you guys.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
How many times pre Saddam?CannonFodder11b wrote:
But what do I know I've only been here twice where as most of you haven't.
Also, were you in the same area each time?
aw, they have cell phones, that's so heart-warming.
Don't they have like 70% unemployment over there?
dude, don't be such a downer.Atakir wrote:
Don't they have like 70% unemployment over there?
I can also vouch for this as well. I have been deployed 4 times to Iraq/Afghanistan and I have even participated in building homes and schools as an additional duty. Depending on where you're at in Iraq its really not that bad. I have been to Baghdad, Kirkuk and Ali Air Base and they are all very different. Baghdad is bad. Kirkuk was ok, we got to go off base to shop at the local merchants.CannonFodder11b wrote:
Well I have been deployed to Iraq before and I can tell you, There is deffinatly a lot of good that has been accomplished since the first time I was there. While we built villages and schools back then as well, the new ones are actually standing and in use. Before we would build it and it would get blown up. Same with medical clinics and what not. There is a lot that changed for the worse, but over all the country has changed tremendously for the better.
But what do I know I've only been here twice where as most of you haven't.
What ever happened to Osama and WMD's? Rebuilt some of the stuff we blew up, mission accomplished!
We found plenty of WMD's in Iraq. My father who is a now retired Brig. General in the Army told me while he was there in 2004 that his unit found shit tons of nerve gas. He couldnt tell me what happened to it or what we did with it. Top Secret stuff. Dunno about Osama. He's probably living it up in NYC driving a cab.iNeedUrFace4Soup wrote:
What ever happened to Osama and WMD's? Rebuilt some of the stuff we blew up, mission accomplished!
This was never about Osama and according to Fox News we found WMD's but it wasn't a big deal for some strange reason.iNeedUrFace4Soup wrote:
What ever happened to Osama and WMD's? Rebuilt some of the stuff we blew up, mission accomplished!
Okay everyone, we know that the US found WMDs. Arabeaters told us. Mark it down people. They have them, they just need to keep it secret, in case people find out that there were WMDs and the attack was justified, becuase then they'd win the next election. Wait a minute...............
But those of you who still think it's so bad, before the war Saddam was happily dropping some nice candy, and rainbows on his people, you know, poisoned candy, explosive rainbows.... And look, things can only get worse before they get better.
keeping the WMD's secret is so fucking clever, it just might work.
Totally, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.Miller wrote:
But those of you who still think it's so bad, before the war Saddam was happily dropping some nice candy, and rainbows on his people, you know, poisoned candy, explosive rainbows.... And look, things can only get worse before they get better.
Except that post-Gulf War Saddam did very little in the way of genocide. Certainly he's not as bad as Kim Jong Il, or the situation as bad as Rwanda or Sudan. Where is the help of those people?
You mean the candy and rainbows that we gave him to fight Iran?Miller wrote:
But those of you who still think it's so bad, before the war Saddam was happily dropping some nice candy, and rainbows on his people, you know, poisoned candy, explosive rainbows.... And look, things can only get worse before they get better.
It was never a secret. It was on Fox news and CNN back when we found them. They just didnt make a big deal about it. Why do you get so snappy all the time? You need to simmer down commie.Bubbalo wrote:
Okay everyone, we know that the US found WMDs. Arabeaters told us. Mark it down people. They have them, they just need to keep it secret, in case people find out that there were WMDs and the attack was justified, becuase then they'd win the next election. Wait a minute...............
So I guess the road to heaven is paved with bad intentions?Atakir wrote:
Totally, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.Miller wrote:
But those of you who still think it's so bad, before the war Saddam was happily dropping some nice candy, and rainbows on his people, you know, poisoned candy, explosive rainbows.... And look, things can only get worse before they get better.