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In addition, I would like to add that if you don't like it, then you can always not spawn for the rest of the round knowing that you didn't help the spawn campers' scores. An alternate option is to leave the server.madsmao wrote:
Why not just fight well and not end up with only one or two flagsIvysDad wrote:
Why not just fight fair and enjoy the game?ThomasMorgan wrote:
actually, what i like to do is take the attack chopper to the enemy main base, land it, then switch to the gunner position. it works especially well if im commander too...drop a supply crate next to me and BAM, let the kills roll in.
granted, it doesnt work on a map like karkand, and it is somewhat cheap...but damn is it ever effective.
Well sir im going to grant you the ability to do the same thing, its only fair that you have the same opportunity to do so, and im also going to allow you to perhaps enjoy doing it! Youre welcome!IvysDad wrote:
Why not just fight fair and enjoy the game?
Moders Karkand is a pretty lame server anyway. There's plenty off other Karkand-only servers.
GOOD TOPIC !
My opinion about spawn whoring is that if you get nailed on "last flag"-situation, your team plays BAD. Do not blame the other team about "whoring", they are playing as a team as this game should be played.
The reason for that "last flag" to happen has ALWAYS been WRONG WEAPON CHOISES and BAD team play.
If the last spawn is been raped continuously by 2 tanks and 8 medics, your team simply CAN NOT spawn like 5 spec.ops. and 3 engineers. No matter how "l33t" you supposed to be on those classes.
You can see instantly if your team has any decent players on these situations. One defeat per map like that is ok, that happens to all. If you loose 2..3 times in a row on same map then you are as bad as the rest of the team.
If you get blown by C4 or mine when you spawn and enter a tank/chopper/other vehicle, you don't have any idea how this game should be played. No matter how many statspoints you have. You are just one of average players who run headlesly without observing surrounds and who gives a shit what other team mates do.
---> you must be hairless under aged wannabee because grown MEN will not hazzle like that
It is exactly the right and the best way of using C4 and mines when you use them as traps. Those guys play this game right.
I have watched numerous times when enemy has done this trapping and let it happen. Only because other guys on my team has not bothered to knowledge messages/identifications/nothing about the enemy...they have just taken the nearest vehicle without looking around to see if the same GOOD enemy engineer is still somewhere near.
I have seen completely different style too. When you see that your team mates actually change from spec.ops. to anti-tank when there are tanks on flag, you know that you have good players on team.
They will react on messages, they will send messages and they know where and how to spawn.
These guys do not necessarily be at the top of the ranking lists but these guys are actually the core of this game.
These guys do the real job. They are softening the enemy so that it's only the "last bullet" that is needed to kill enemy. Unfortunately there are usually too few of these guys on your team and usually "the better" players do not help them. TOP players just collect the price from almost finished job so naturally stats are far better.
Thats one weakness of the stats-part of the game.
You don't have to be any special to collect points from halfdead enemy, you just have to be chicken shit and wait when enemy has almost been killed.
The good players, who has done the main job, get only assist points or nothing.
Fair stats system that shows the true status
My opinion about spawn whoring is that if you get nailed on "last flag"-situation, your team plays BAD. Do not blame the other team about "whoring", they are playing as a team as this game should be played.
The reason for that "last flag" to happen has ALWAYS been WRONG WEAPON CHOISES and BAD team play.
If the last spawn is been raped continuously by 2 tanks and 8 medics, your team simply CAN NOT spawn like 5 spec.ops. and 3 engineers. No matter how "l33t" you supposed to be on those classes.
You can see instantly if your team has any decent players on these situations. One defeat per map like that is ok, that happens to all. If you loose 2..3 times in a row on same map then you are as bad as the rest of the team.
If you get blown by C4 or mine when you spawn and enter a tank/chopper/other vehicle, you don't have any idea how this game should be played. No matter how many statspoints you have. You are just one of average players who run headlesly without observing surrounds and who gives a shit what other team mates do.
---> you must be hairless under aged wannabee because grown MEN will not hazzle like that
It is exactly the right and the best way of using C4 and mines when you use them as traps. Those guys play this game right.
I have watched numerous times when enemy has done this trapping and let it happen. Only because other guys on my team has not bothered to knowledge messages/identifications/nothing about the enemy...they have just taken the nearest vehicle without looking around to see if the same GOOD enemy engineer is still somewhere near.
I have seen completely different style too. When you see that your team mates actually change from spec.ops. to anti-tank when there are tanks on flag, you know that you have good players on team.
They will react on messages, they will send messages and they know where and how to spawn.
These guys do not necessarily be at the top of the ranking lists but these guys are actually the core of this game.
These guys do the real job. They are softening the enemy so that it's only the "last bullet" that is needed to kill enemy. Unfortunately there are usually too few of these guys on your team and usually "the better" players do not help them. TOP players just collect the price from almost finished job so naturally stats are far better.
Thats one weakness of the stats-part of the game.
You don't have to be any special to collect points from halfdead enemy, you just have to be chicken shit and wait when enemy has almost been killed.
The good players, who has done the main job, get only assist points or nothing.
Fair stats system that shows the true status
That's quite lame and you "advertise" it as well...it tells many thing about you. "Congratulation"....ThomasMorgan wrote:
actually, what i like to do is take the attack chopper to the enemy main base, land it, then switch to the gunner position. it works especially well if im commander too...drop a supply crate next to me and BAM, let the kills roll in.
granted, it doesnt work on a map like karkand, and it is somewhat cheap...but damn is it ever effective.
Is it bad to play as commander? Look to your stats and be more intelligent when writing about something cos u arent BF2 greatest player and when you get my stats lets talk.nating75 wrote:
This coming from a guy who brings death from above with his magical arty pellets.sergeriver wrote:
Spawn camping is not an exploit and is not cheating at all, we all suffered it and all used it and ll use for ever cos its part of bf2, and if EA 'd think it is wrong they 'd do somethin bout it. So stop crying like babies for being killed at spawn, its part of the game, so take it and stfu.
Perhaps u think a better guy is Blazin with his stat paddin, the best player of Bf2 wtf EA.
Anyway it is not easy to be a good commander, so stfu.
Camping spawn points is the biggest stat padding, pussy tactic there is. The idea is to take the spawn points, not pad your stats by camping them, especially when it is the last spawn point and taking it would result in a win, but the opposing team just camps it to rack up kills.sergeriver wrote:
Is it bad to play as commander? Look to your stats and be more intelligent when writing about something cos u arent BF2 greatest player and when you get my stats lets talk.nating75 wrote:
This coming from a guy who brings death from above with his magical arty pellets.sergeriver wrote:
Spawn camping is not an exploit and is not cheating at all, we all suffered it and all used it and ll use for ever cos its part of bf2, and if EA 'd think it is wrong they 'd do somethin bout it. So stop crying like babies for being killed at spawn, its part of the game, so take it and stfu.
Perhaps u think a better guy is Blazin with his stat paddin, the best player of Bf2 wtf EA.
Anyway it is not easy to be a good commander, so stfu.
I don't think it was Spawn Camping if you had two flags. Use the other spawn point and if they booby (.)(.) trapped the other base as well, don't spawn and wait till next game. You are just adding to thier laughter and stats.
Spawn camping doesn't depend on how many spawn points there are. Since the idea is to capture the flag/spawn points, camping occurs when a team sits outside that point and kills people spawning there rather than capture the point, which is the whole idea of the game. If some one is on a spawn point and waiting for backup to take the point, fine. But when the ability to take the point is there and they just sit on it to kill people, that is spawn camping.imdead wrote:
I don't think it was Spawn Camping if you had two flags. Use the other spawn point and if they booby (.)(.) trapped the other base as well, don't spawn and wait till next game. You are just adding to thier laughter and stats.
I totally agree!Sud wrote:
I've seen that tactic done with a blackhawk. Now that thing shreds respawns.actually, what i like to do is take the attack chopper to the enemy main base, land it, then switch to the gunner position. it works especially well if im commander too...drop a supply crate next to me and BAM, let the kills roll in.
granted, it doesnt work on a map like karkand, and it is somewhat cheap...but damn is it ever effective.
In general this is pretty much one of those times where you have no chance of winning whatsoever. Basically best idea is not to spawn at all (essentially that's how you concede defeat). Unfortunately trying to convince teammates of this is impossible, but at least you'll save yourself the personal loss.
Or, if there's any way you can sneak out, try to actually do something about it. It's always more satisfying to voice a complaint where you actually did something to stop it in the end. Unfortunately that might be a purple heart on your record in the trying!
People always have the choice - and not spawning at all is one!
I personally will check the map 1st & the squad lists and see who's available - if there is a vehicle or a squad I think has a real chance of taking the A-hole out - I will wait - rather the become cannon-fodder for someone else’s stats.
Waa waa....
First, quit playing karkand only servers, whining about padders, try playing a diferent map. Fawkers play karkand only because it's their best map, and can rack up points. Diversify your maps, you vag.
Second, nothing wrong with preventing your enemy from leaving a spawn. If you can make the opposing team your bitch that easliy, they deserve to be spawn raped, kobe style. Maybe in the future have your squad leaders take off in diferent directions, spawn on them, create a new squad, then have people respawn on you. There are ways to get out of a spawn raping. Use the brain power to do something other than run your mouth, and you can solve problems.
I hate bunny hoppers, but I don't bitch about them in forums.... much. I just deal with it. I suggest you do the same.
First, quit playing karkand only servers, whining about padders, try playing a diferent map. Fawkers play karkand only because it's their best map, and can rack up points. Diversify your maps, you vag.
Second, nothing wrong with preventing your enemy from leaving a spawn. If you can make the opposing team your bitch that easliy, they deserve to be spawn raped, kobe style. Maybe in the future have your squad leaders take off in diferent directions, spawn on them, create a new squad, then have people respawn on you. There are ways to get out of a spawn raping. Use the brain power to do something other than run your mouth, and you can solve problems.
I hate bunny hoppers, but I don't bitch about them in forums.... much. I just deal with it. I suggest you do the same.
LooooooooL I know its cruel.. but:AmBiTiOnZ23 wrote:
I was playing on the Moders Strike at Karkand server last night, as MEC. We were down to the Suburb, and Hotel spawn points. Instead of just taking over the spawn points, the USMC team all respawned as Spec-Ops, and put C4s on all the spawn points, so when a bunch of people spawned at once, they blew the C4s, and about 5 of us at a time got blown into the sky. I wouldve spawned elsewhere, but these were our last two spawn points. I mean, sometimes we all spawn camp, but this is ridiculous....
THANKS FOR THE TIP MUHAHAHA
You like to tell people to stfu! You are a good commander and I know its not easy, but don't be telling people about spawn camping when all you do is hide and tell people what to do.sergeriver wrote:
Is it bad to play as commander? Look to your stats and be more intelligent when writing about something cos u arent BF2 greatest player and when you get my stats lets talk.nating75 wrote:
This coming from a guy who brings death from above with his magical arty pellets.sergeriver wrote:
Spawn camping is not an exploit and is not cheating at all, we all suffered it and all used it and ll use for ever cos its part of bf2, and if EA 'd think it is wrong they 'd do somethin bout it. So stop crying like babies for being killed at spawn, its part of the game, so take it and stfu.
Perhaps u think a better guy is Blazin with his stat paddin, the best player of Bf2 wtf EA.
Anyway it is not easy to be a good commander, so stfu.
Just because you get double points on every map you play doesn't make you the greatest player either.
I totally agree. I have said throughout this thread that their is nothing wrong with camping a flag (stopping people from leaving). It's the actual spawn point that I have problems with it's so friggin' cheap. All I'm saying is you're a hack if you do it.Erkut.hv wrote:
Waa waa....
First, quit playing karkand only servers, whining about padders, try playing a diferent map. Fawkers play karkand only because it's their best map, and can rack up points. Diversify your maps, you vag.
Second, nothing wrong with preventing your enemy from leaving a spawn. If you can make the opposing team your bitch that easliy, they deserve to be spawn raped, kobe style. Maybe in the future have your squad leaders take off in diferent directions, spawn on them, create a new squad, then have people respawn on you. There are ways to get out of a spawn raping. Use the brain power to do something other than run your mouth, and you can solve problems.
I hate bunny hoppers, but I don't bitch about them in forums.... much. I just deal with it. I suggest you do the same.
I hardly ever die right when I spawn but I know better than to spawn when a tank or heli is near by.
If your having problems spawn camping, just stay on the outskirts and lob grenades or C4 in.
well if you are educating me, don't. Just a statement as topal would say "out of context". Meaning "I don't think it would be spawncamping if you have another flag, and they are shooting and not taking the flag, spawn at the other one, if it's uncappable then don't spawn, I've seen people doing this." Sorry it was early morning.Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:
Spawn camping doesn't depend on how many spawn points there are. Since the idea is to capture the flag/spawn points, camping occurs when a team sits outside that point and kills people spawning there rather than capture the point, which is the whole idea of the game. If some one is on a spawn point and waiting for backup to take the point, fine. But when the ability to take the point is there and they just sit on it to kill people, that is spawn camping.imdead wrote:
I don't think it was Spawn Camping if you had two flags. Use the other spawn point and if they booby (.)(.) trapped the other base as well, don't spawn and wait till next game. You are just adding to thier laughter and stats.
Last edited by imdead (2005-12-16 16:55:08)
Totally agree with u dude.Erkut.hv wrote:
Waa waa....
First, quit playing karkand only servers, whining about padders, try playing a diferent map. Fawkers play karkand only because it's their best map, and can rack up points. Diversify your maps, you vag.
Second, nothing wrong with preventing your enemy from leaving a spawn. If you can make the opposing team your bitch that easliy, they deserve to be spawn raped, kobe style. Maybe in the future have your squad leaders take off in diferent directions, spawn on them, create a new squad, then have people respawn on you. There are ways to get out of a spawn raping. Use the brain power to do something other than run your mouth, and you can solve problems.
I hate bunny hoppers, but I don't bitch about them in forums.... much. I just deal with it. I suggest you do the same.
First I dont consider myself a great player so be cool. Second being a commander (as should be not campin apc) its hard and many times tedious but someone has to take care.nating75 wrote:
You like to tell people to stfu! You are a good commander and I know its not easy, but don't be telling people about spawn camping when all you do is hide and tell people what to do.sergeriver wrote:
Is it bad to play as commander? Look to your stats and be more intelligent when writing about something cos u arent BF2 greatest player and when you get my stats lets talk.nating75 wrote:
This coming from a guy who brings death from above with his magical arty pellets.
Perhaps u think a better guy is Blazin with his stat paddin, the best player of Bf2 wtf EA.
Anyway it is not easy to be a good commander, so stfu.
Just because you get double points on every map you play doesn't make you the greatest player either.
Last I never hide and always try to defend a flag while im commander, its not easy look the commander screen and watch your flag at the same time.
You make your points as you wish Ill do mine but dont tell me that my points are granted.
Actually, I like to play with commanders like you. I'm sure you take of your troops! We just disagreed and it got personal (well as personal as stupid computer game stats can go, anyways)sergeriver wrote:
First I dont consider myself a great player so be cool. Second being a commander (as should be not campin apc) its hard and many times tedious but someone has to take care.nating75 wrote:
You like to tell people to stfu! You are a good commander and I know its not easy, but don't be telling people about spawn camping when all you do is hide and tell people what to do.sergeriver wrote:
Is it bad to play as commander? Look to your stats and be more intelligent when writing about something cos u arent BF2 greatest player and when you get my stats lets talk.
Perhaps u think a better guy is Blazin with his stat paddin, the best player of Bf2 wtf EA.
Anyway it is not easy to be a good commander, so stfu.
Just because you get double points on every map you play doesn't make you the greatest player either.
Last I never hide and always try to defend a flag while im commander, its not easy look the commander screen and watch your flag at the same time.
You make your points as you wish Ill do mine but dont tell me that my points are granted.
Last edited by nating75 (2005-12-16 17:49:14)
How am I supposed to check my surroundings for C4s when I get blown into the sky right when I spawn into action. I couldnt even take a step forward before I was blown up.BudRell wrote:
GOOD TOPIC !
My opinion about spawn whoring is that if you get nailed on "last flag"-situation, your team plays BAD. Do not blame the other team about "whoring", they are playing as a team as this game should be played.
The reason for that "last flag" to happen has ALWAYS been WRONG WEAPON CHOISES and BAD team play.
If the last spawn is been raped continuously by 2 tanks and 8 medics, your team simply CAN NOT spawn like 5 spec.ops. and 3 engineers. No matter how "l33t" you supposed to be on those classes.
You can see instantly if your team has any decent players on these situations. One defeat per map like that is ok, that happens to all. If you loose 2..3 times in a row on same map then you are as bad as the rest of the team.
If you get blown by C4 or mine when you spawn and enter a tank/chopper/other vehicle, you don't have any idea how this game should be played. No matter how many statspoints you have. You are just one of average players who run headlesly without observing surrounds and who gives a shit what other team mates do.
---> you must be hairless under aged wannabee because grown MEN will not hazzle like that
It is exactly the right and the best way of using C4 and mines when you use them as traps. Those guys play this game right.
I have watched numerous times when enemy has done this trapping and let it happen. Only because other guys on my team has not bothered to knowledge messages/identifications/nothing about the enemy...they have just taken the nearest vehicle without looking around to see if the same GOOD enemy engineer is still somewhere near.
I have seen completely different style too. When you see that your team mates actually change from spec.ops. to anti-tank when there are tanks on flag, you know that you have good players on team.
They will react on messages, they will send messages and they know where and how to spawn.
These guys do not necessarily be at the top of the ranking lists but these guys are actually the core of this game.
These guys do the real job. They are softening the enemy so that it's only the "last bullet" that is needed to kill enemy. Unfortunately there are usually too few of these guys on your team and usually "the better" players do not help them. TOP players just collect the price from almost finished job so naturally stats are far better.
Thats one weakness of the stats-part of the game.
You don't have to be any special to collect points from halfdead enemy, you just have to be chicken shit and wait when enemy has almost been killed.
The good players, who has done the main job, get only assist points or nothing.
Fair stats system that shows the true status
Actually, Karkand isnt even my most played map. Dont just make assumptions without any facts to back them up.Erkut.hv wrote:
Waa waa....
First, quit playing karkand only servers, whining about padders, try playing a diferent map. Fawkers play karkand only because it's their best map, and can rack up points. Diversify your maps, you vag.
Second, nothing wrong with preventing your enemy from leaving a spawn. If you can make the opposing team your bitch that easliy, they deserve to be spawn raped, kobe style. Maybe in the future have your squad leaders take off in diferent directions, spawn on them, create a new squad, then have people respawn on you. There are ways to get out of a spawn raping. Use the brain power to do something other than run your mouth, and you can solve problems.
I hate bunny hoppers, but I don't bitch about them in forums.... much. I just deal with it. I suggest you do the same.
i also got raped dont know on what level but they stole our choppers and tanks and started raping us in our main cuz everything else was taken
Np, thanx for your comments.nating75 wrote:
Actually, I like to play with commanders like you. I'm sure you take of your troops! We just disagreed and it got personal (well as personal as stupid computer game stats can go, anyways)sergeriver wrote:
First I dont consider myself a great player so be cool. Second being a commander (as should be not campin apc) its hard and many times tedious but someone has to take care.nating75 wrote:
You like to tell people to stfu! You are a good commander and I know its not easy, but don't be telling people about spawn camping when all you do is hide and tell people what to do.
Just because you get double points on every map you play doesn't make you the greatest player either.
Last I never hide and always try to defend a flag while im commander, its not easy look the commander screen and watch your flag at the same time.
You make your points as you wish Ill do mine but dont tell me that my points are granted.
Lets play together anytime. You know how to find someone, you'll see I put all to get the team ahead, dont forget that my points dont go x2 if we loose.
just keep on playin karkand and complaining. this map is no fun, its only for the points...
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