Fancy_Pollux
Connoisseur of Fine Wine
+1,306|6903
What a fresh and exciting thread!

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CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6812

Harmor wrote:

Its sad that the insurgents/foriegn fighters are killing so many Iraqis.  Why would they kill their own kind?
You've just demonstrated ın your second sentence exactly why the US were never goıng to wın thıs war...
rawls2
Mr. Bigglesworth
+89|6817

CameronPoe wrote:

Harmor wrote:

Its sad that the insurgents/foriegn fighters are killing so many Iraqis.  Why would they kill their own kind?
You've just demonstrated ın your second sentence exactly why the US were never goıng to wın thıs war...
The second sentence also demonstrates why Americans don't feel bad for Iraqis. They do it to themselves.
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6812

rawls2 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Harmor wrote:

Its sad that the insurgents/foriegn fighters are killing so many Iraqis.  Why would they kill their own kind?
You've just demonstrated ın your second sentence exactly why the US were never goıng to wın thıs war...
The second sentence also demonstrates why Americans don't feel bad for Iraqis. They do it to themselves.
I never doubted your levels of compassıon for one mınute Rawls!!
rawls2
Mr. Bigglesworth
+89|6817

CameronPoe wrote:

rawls2 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:


You've just demonstrated ın your second sentence exactly why the US were never goıng to wın thıs war...
The second sentence also demonstrates why Americans don't feel bad for Iraqis. They do it to themselves.
I never doubted your levels of compassıon for one mınute Rawls!!
Our compassion towards the Iraqis is evident by the 2000+ American soldiers killed in Iraq. We send our soldiers to die so that Iraqis one day can taste the freedom that others take for granted.
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6812

rawls2 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

rawls2 wrote:


The second sentence also demonstrates why Americans don't feel bad for Iraqis. They do it to themselves.
I never doubted your levels of compassıon for one mınute Rawls!!
Our compassion towards the Iraqis is evident by the 2000+ American soldiers killed in Iraq. We send our soldiers to die so that Iraqis one day can taste the freedom that others take for granted.
If that's what freedom tastes lıke then I don't want a bıte!!!
rawls2
Mr. Bigglesworth
+89|6817

CameronPoe wrote:

rawls2 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:


I never doubted your levels of compassıon for one mınute Rawls!!
Our compassion towards the Iraqis is evident by the 2000+ American soldiers killed in Iraq. We send our soldiers to die so that Iraqis one day can taste the freedom that others take for granted.
If that's what freedom tastes lıke then I don't want a bıte!!!
By freedom I mean everything we do. Talk shit on forums, play bf2 all nite long, go to lunch with co-workers, getting paid on friday's, dating the girl next door, going to a pub and knocking down some cold ones, skipping church to watch football on Sundays, test drive the newest car, buy a new car, start a small business, go to the nudie bar, download pron, go to a concert, etc.
Thats freedom to me.
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|6928|UK

rawls2 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

rawls2 wrote:


Our compassion towards the Iraqis is evident by the 2000+ American soldiers killed in Iraq. We send our soldiers to die so that Iraqis one day can taste the freedom that others take for granted.
If that's what freedom tastes lıke then I don't want a bıte!!!
By freedom I mean everything we do. Talk shit on forums, play bf2 all nite long, go to lunch with co-workers, getting paid on friday's, dating the girl next door, going to a pub and knocking down some cold ones, skipping church to watch football on Sundays, test drive the newest car, buy a new car, start a small business, go to the nudie bar, download pron, go to a concert, etc.
Thats freedom to me.
All logged in your little special file down at Langley by Mr Noob working tirelessly away in the Patriot Act Department.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6725

Fancy_Pollux wrote:

What a fresh and exciting thread!

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Fancy is using that annoyed dude thing again; all I have to say is


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ShowMeTheMonkey
Member
+125|6959
Value of life? Look at the Philipeines. It's sod all! So many islands, no police and the police who ARE there are trained to stab you in the armpits.

OUCH!
LostFate
Same shit, Different Arsehole
+95|6742|England
"  the most advanced military in the world, backed up by the most brilliant intelligence agency in the world "


i thought we were talking about the us troops? not the uk
King_County_Downy
shitfaced
+2,791|6854|Seattle

199,861 americans died per month during the Iraq war. More news at 11

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http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm
Sober enough to know what I'm doing, drunk enough to really enjoy doing it
Sgt_Sieg
"Bow Chicka Bow Wow." The correct way.
+89|7032

King_County_Downy wrote:

199,861 americans died per month during the Iraq war. More news at 11

http://www.uploadfile.info/uploads/aa88463991.jpg

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm
Winner. Ding Ding Ding.
fadedsteve
GOP Sympathizer
+266|6748|Menlo Park, CA

Kmarion wrote:

_lecro_ wrote:

Bush used 9/11 as a reason to invade iraq for there oil...!
Care to offer evidence ?

Here is what needs to happen.. Have the Iraqi's vote simply yes or no if they want an immediate withdraw. Have an international organization monitor the voting process. Yes, it's that simple
You're right to a degree. . . although too simplistic don't you think?. . .

The fact is that the removal of Saddam and his son's was a good idea.  Not putting together a coehesive plan as to what we do after their removal is not. 

Like I said before, we should have completed Afghanistan before we went into Iraq. . . .

I feel that we were right in removing him(Saddam and his regime), no doubt about it.  We just should have been more wise to the fact that not all the Iraqi's would welcome us with open arms.  I just cannot fathom how our leaders didn't estimate that an insurgency would errupt as a direct result of us being their.  It was arrogance and incompetence that has gotten us to this point.  Even though we have made some mistakes in Iraq, we still need to win.  If we leave with our "tail between our legs" again (as in Vietnam, a policy in which the democrats support doing by the way), we truely will show the world that we are unable to keep our word as well as follow through.

Even though I like Bush, and support his mission, I must say that he overestimated what was going to happen.  That lack of insight and foresight is going to cost the republicans the House this year, and possibly the presidency in a few years.

Last edited by fadedsteve (2006-10-26 15:03:52)

beerface702
Member
+65|6950|las vegas

CannonFodder11b wrote:

bogo24dk wrote:

CannonFodder11b wrote:


I think you are referring to the Oil for Food program which Saddam wasted on things like golden toilets, T72 Tanks, French NVGs,  Armored Limos, and all the other wasted  money like the MOAB mosque that he had built after Desert Storm to celebrate his Victory over the Allied Nations.

Yessir! that was UN sanctioned Death......

The whole reason for Oil for Food was to try and keep saddam from rebuilding his military to try and take out Kuwait or someone else again, not to starve the masses.
The UN sanction where imposed on Iraq because the US had evidently proof that Saddam had wdm and was about to build a Nuclear bomb. Which we all know now that is false. I always asked myself one quite obvious question. If he had those Wdm's then why didn't he use it on the Americans. Obviously he didn't hesitate to use it on the Kurds. Was it maybe cause the US government knew very well that he didn't have any and he didn't pose a threat. And even he did buy tanks and ak-47 he wouldn't had invaded Kuwait. Saddam is a typical dictator, he cares more about his behind then anything else. Lot of good was done putting a embargo on false info and expecting for a dictator to care about his people. You have to be born yesterday to not understand that this embargo was like signing a death warrant for 1 mill people.
actually in 2003 some chemical weapons were found, accidently by insurgents as they were setting up a 155mm arty shell for an IED.  The device went off and they were killed. Now we recovered some but not enough for all the news agencies to give a rats ass about. Also if Saddam could hide Long Range bobmers in the sand ...(LONG range bombers mind you, not the fighter bomber sort) That only got uncovered enough for a passing patrol to notice a tail wing hanging out of the sand, then who are we to say what else is in the desert.   And I know for a fact there is not one unit combing the vaste open ground in this country.  SO I cannot say IF he had tons of WMDs, or a little.  There sure is a lot of wasteland in this country......
And if he wasn't hiding something why did he not allow UN weapons inspectors in to his plants the first oh I dunno 30 times they showed up to inspect various areas.... why did he clean up before he allowed then to inspect. I dunno seems kinda odd....
But then again people like you must think Saddam was a saint.

(and the Oil for Food thing started after Desert Storm.... around the same time there was a no fly zone established around Iraq. It was imposed to keep him from attacking another country again, and also to keep Iran from attacking Iraq.... remember Iran/Iraq war? Yeah they still aint forgiven Saddam and were more then happy to see him get his ass kicked twice)
i agree

i watched a documentary in early 03, had sat images from syria of "WMDs", mostly bio weapons being hauled out of iraq.

They found Bio and chem in iraq after the invansion, but not nukes.

poor ole bush and company didnt make this quite clear to the public, now the sheep think, well we didnt find nukes! so what was the point? no nukes!! ah we knew it, cut and run

but ya another senseless war, much like nam. but i support the guys in the sandbox, no matter how fubar our intellgence is
beerface702
Member
+65|6950|las vegas

m3thod wrote:

rawls2 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:


If that's what freedom tastes lıke then I don't want a bıte!!!
By freedom I mean everything we do. Talk shit on forums, play bf2 all nite long, go to lunch with co-workers, getting paid on friday's, dating the girl next door, going to a pub and knocking down some cold ones, skipping church to watch football on Sundays, test drive the newest car, buy a new car, start a small business, go to the nudie bar, download pron, go to a concert, etc.
Thats freedom to me.
All logged in your little special file down at Langley by Mr Noob working tirelessly away in the Patriot Act Department.
rofl langley?


do you even know what is at langely?

give me a break

not big brother that's for sure
rawls2
Mr. Bigglesworth
+89|6817
And even if they were, bigg f'n deal. I dont get off on kiddie porn or plan terrorist plots. I could care less if big brother was scanning my harddrive 24/7, I have nothing to hide. A small price to pay for the incredible amounts of freedom I enjoy in the US.

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