N.A.W.NEO
Member
+1|7011
no love in war kill them all but i do have to say that in my tournament  www.nations-at-war.com you are not  alowed  to put one foot in main base or take anything out if you do the the round goes to us

Last edited by N.A.W.NEO (2005-12-15 03:11:41)

Snakestyles
Member
+17|7040|South Africa
Some games turn out this way, it has alot to do with your team not responding to the threat. If i understand how the game went this was at the back usmc base. As was asked before,how the hell did they get there....did ur tank respond ? what about your apc's. There are two forward spawn point that you could have used to flank these guys from, nevermind the fact that it would have been a perfect time to sneak out and cap the main mec base. I mean its karkand and the mec have to keep you guys back,the main mec base can be capped and with a good defense its really hard to recapture.
{USI}_Zombie
Member
+11|7076
uber73, I am with you on this one, sort of.  There really shouldn't be anyone in a UC except the spec ops and a support to take out the assets and maybe steal a vehicle, and then they leave.  A coordinated MEC team can bottle the US in the south part of the map without actually being IN the UC.  Same with wake, the PLA can keep them bottled up w/o actually being ON the ship.  Is spawnraping a "tactic"? yes.  Is it cheap? Yes  It is also cheap to be US on Karkand and take every flag but say trainwreck, and then sit there and pound MEC as they spawn in w/o someone trying to take the last flag.  I have been on the recieving side of that...for 10 minutes we got pounded and noone attempted to take the flag, which could have easily done.  To those who say it's war, play to win!  Well, you win by taking flags, so go take that last flag and the round ends, you win!  Not taking the last flag just to rack up your fragrate is just cheap.
  There appear to be 2 sides to this, and we will never convince the other side to see our point of view.  To those who said, "what did your tank/apc do?  Perhaps in the beginning they were in the front taking flags and eventually were killed, then they got stolen and turned against you.  Those who say "How did your team let them get back there in the first place?  Well, if they were coordinated enough, they attack the 2 forward spawnpoints in force, with medics and support, then hold there and send another coordinated force to the UC and hold there.  It's not about anyones individual skill, if you are the top player on your team, but the rest won't work in a coordinated way, you can get pounded by players with less skill than you if THEY are acting coordinated, and they don't have to use cheap "tactics" to do it.
  It IS possible to bottle the US and not let them advance w/o actually being on top of the 3 spawn points
eusgen
Nugget
+402|7095|Jupiter
I love those big clans myself, they like to get in cars, APC's, what ever they can get, and i just blow them up, its so satisfying when your 3 AT rockets dont go to waste on one guy
Fahrenheit
Member
+0|7081

duckforceone wrote:

funny how you pull up my stat, but don't show your own... besides.. look at my score board.. you'll see i have played support most of the time..  i don't use tanks much, and i definately don't use planes and choppers...

come talk about skill when you know what it's about..

oh and just for kicks.. i tried out the assault class the other day... man it's way too easy to rack up a 3:1 kd ratio with that kit... but where's the fun in that...
So u dont use armour and air vehicles much! more fool you! yes its a game, yes its annoying at times cos u cant leave spawn...so what, do as many of us do play elsewhere, there must be thousands of servers to choose from yet most complain about spawn campers etc. And as for its easy to get a 3:1 kd ratio wheres the fun in that? are you barking mad!! thats the whole point of the game it means your winning, i thought the whole point of the game was to have fun and win and get some good scores, medals etc..hell thats why i play, its nice to get a badge for good effort and its great to work with a good team. If i join a server and its full of asshats i leave and play elsewhere. You are just plain stupid with your "man it's way too easy...and i dont use tanks etc much.."  its like saying im not gonna wear a bullet proof vest because i might be harder to kill...wheres the fun in that!!......just for kicks empty all ur ammo from ur guns and run around with ur knife out...change ur name to kamikaze nutter as well lol...
Lt.Maverick|Lw|
youve now just been Pwned by the Mavster
+-1|7026
Tbh it has pissed me off being zapped at spawn,however i spawn eleswhere and get them back for it or go cap a flag elsewhere,however the satisfaction of getting the opposing teamback at spawn is great and some people are so dumb,mec have so many places to spawn in karkland and the dumb asses keep spawing in the alleyway as i mow them down with the pkm,gives me a hearty chuckle
{DsM}SongofWar[BoC]
Member
+19|7143|Toronto, Canada
I once got banned from a server for repeatedly killing an admin while he was climbing the ladder at the building at square in karkand. Got him about 5-6 times in a row, and got kicked for being "dishonourable". Sorry, but if you keep climbing the damned ladder, you are going to get shot in the back.
Lt.Maverick|Lw|
youve now just been Pwned by the Mavster
+-1|7026

{DsM}SongofWar[BoC] wrote:

I once got banned from a server for repeatedly killing an admin while he was climbing the ladder at the building at square in karkand. Got him about 5-6 times in a row, and got kicked for being "dishonourable". Sorry, but if you keep climbing the damned ladder, you are going to get shot in the back.
Too true m8,he was asking for it,what are you suppose to do,give him a leg up...lol
dirtyepics
Member
+19|7035|England
Maybe he wanted variety.........you should have waited at the top of the ladder and shot him in the head! lol

Last edited by dirtyepics (2005-12-15 09:32:11)

TNPAuTo
Member
+0|7028|Amurica

M90Medic wrote:

They will die a lonely death.
And I will hand them their lonely death on a golden platter, none the less.
TNPAuTo
Member
+0|7028|Amurica
I have been banned from servers for owning a total of 24 people in the server, being too good with a plane and heli, 1 accidental tk, doing nothing but running around throwing ammo at people everytime they fired a shot, and for being a "Smacktard" on several occasions.
duckforceone
Member
+3|7026|Denmark

Fahrenheit wrote:

So u dont use armour and air vehicles much! more fool you! yes its a game, yes its annoying at times cos u cant leave spawn...so what, do as many of us do play elsewhere, there must be thousands of servers to choose from yet most complain about spawn campers etc. And as for its easy to get a 3:1 kd ratio wheres the fun in that? are you barking mad!! thats the whole point of the game it means your winning, i thought the whole point of the game was to have fun and win and get some good scores, medals etc..hell thats why i play, its nice to get a badge for good effort and its great to work with a good team. If i join a server and its full of asshats i leave and play elsewhere. You are just plain stupid with your "man it's way too easy...and i dont use tanks etc much.."  its like saying im not gonna wear a bullet proof vest because i might be harder to kill...wheres the fun in that!!......just for kicks empty all ur ammo from ur guns and run around with ur knife out...change ur name to kamikaze nutter as well lol...
why am i a fool? there are never enough armor or planes for everyone, and someone has to stick to the ground... and as i know that some people are better in armor than i am, for the team i let them do just that, and stick with what i'm good at.

and no a game is not necessarily about just winning... for me the only thing about this game is to have fun... i don't mind i don't get that many kills, because my team mates rack them in, and i give them all the ammo they ever need for it.... i don't care about scores or medals or stats... stats don't mean jack... as one guy writes in another thread, that he just fires rounds randomly when he's bored... that sure screws up the accuracy score...
when you are support and helping AT guys take down tanks, but the tanks charge... what can a support guy do but try and run... if i cared about stats, i would play AT or Assault all the time, as they can score most points. Or even better, i would just start flying to rape in the points...

frig that... there's a reason that i only have .61kd ratio... it's because i don't care about it...
XBoughtonX
Member
+2|7125|North Texas
Last night, I was playing Iron Gator, My squadmate and I were in the Hind, straffing the flight deck of the carrier. I only had 15-20 points so I wasn't dominating by any stretch of the imaginiation... we had 3 flags, 2 of which were on the top of the ship they had the rest, minus 1 down below. I was kicked because I was being a "smacktard" and "spawncamping".
I waited my 1 min ban, logged back on, spawned on my Squadleader, (still in the chopper) and got kicked again when I defended our flag on the flight deck.
What?!?!?! kicked for defending our own flag?
I waited again and logged back on. I asked why I was kicked, were we *not* supposed to be using the hielos?
The reply I recieved was that I was spawncamping. My response was that the WHOLE CARRIER IS A SPAWN. That was met with some colorful dialogue from the *3rd Rangers clan* and was threatened to leave or be kicked again. This was followed by conversation of how much they don't like our "clan" and have hated us since RuS... (I have no idea what that is...) Our "clan" is only 7 people big (if you call that a clan, more like a squad to me) and we formed up when BF2 was released, and it is generally comprised of  people who live in our area and attend our LAN parties

Now, I completely understand camping at a non-capable flag and killing everything that moves, like in Gulf of Oman, but we were defending our flags on the flight deck...

Was I in the wrong here people?

*And before the flamming starts about me finding another server, Don't bother, we usually stick to a handful of awesome servers.*

Last edited by XBoughtonX (2005-12-15 07:52:42)

[FB]Eraser
Back in battle after 3-year break
+39|7024|Switzerland

{DsM}SongofWar[BoC] wrote:

I once got banned from a server for repeatedly killing an admin while he was climbing the ladder at the building at square in karkand. Got him about 5-6 times in a row, and got kicked for being "dishonourable". Sorry, but if you keep climbing the damned ladder, you are going to get shot in the back.
ROFL. Yes, admins don't like to get killed too often. Even if the are so stupid like the one you wiped from the ladder. I was kicked by an admin on Wake Island, because he tried to get me out of a tower with mounted MG. And he was always running at the tower from behind, climbed up the ladder and recieved his heady from my pistol. After the third headshot he kicked me... I have to ask BF2S if they can mark one of my kicks with a golden  frame...because it reminds me of laughing for minutes about this fool...
ronin1942
Member
+-1|7146

Snakestyles wrote:

Some games turn out this way, it has alot to do with your team not responding to the threat. If i understand how the game went this was at the back usmc base. As was asked before,how the hell did they get there....did ur tank respond ? what about your apc's. There are two forward spawn point that you could have used to flank these guys from, nevermind the fact that it would have been a perfect time to sneak out and cap the main mec base. I mean its karkand and the mec have to keep you guys back,the main mec base can be capped and with a good defense its really hard to recapture.
i think he would rather cry about how its someone elses fault rather than think or how to counter others actions.
XBoughtonX
Member
+2|7125|North Texas
it's a power trip, having the power to punt anyone who has more skill or is smarter than you... "he was always running at the tower from behind, climbed up the ladder and recieved his heady from my pistol." what an idiot.

LOL
VIKING-LOVER1
Member
+3|7147

Lawk wrote:

uber73 wrote:

Ive been playing online a long time, almost 15 years, and this type of "score at all costs" player, truely wreck the gaming experience... they remove the sense of immersion, the feeling of team play, and the element of competition.  I dunno if this forum permits expletives, but those f*cksticks should have their accounts crippled.
They may wreck the gaming experience for you, but when I "spawncamp" I get the feeling of complete immersion in team competition.
I have to agree here .
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS SPAWN CAMPING !
i consisitantly see people start yelling at me over  this
Take karkand (64 man size)  with the  server full and every ones fraggin away,

you get the whiney ass little fuktards that start bitching about spawn raping .
Ive had a few people sart whining about me "yelling" WTF viking-lover1 is spawn camping,
My reply to these morons is > umm'' heres an idea , try spawning at another spawn point you moron"lol.

of course i usealy et called a smart-ass after that lol.

but its true "in most instances" players MEC or USMC side can spawn in multible places without having to spawn at the "SAME FLAG EVERY TIME" .
but of course you get these dumb ass's that consistantly spawn at the same flag over and over again "which by the way i love it when they do ".

i will continue to "spawn camp" or what ever you little whinney ass's  call it these days.
If your dumb enough to continue to spawn at the same flag over and over then i will be there waiting for dorks like that.
I play the round to win , not to give you "spawners" a chance to keep control of any certain flag.

any one that yells SPAWN CAMPER and starts crying needs to have thir diaper changed .

on the topic here though' that clan that "spawn camped" your team kicked your ass across the map and held your team to its spawn point  and thus is the better thinking/playing team

"the other team is not supposed to give your team  a chance to win"
THATS CALLED TACTICS ..
Sgt. Sergio Bennet 3rd
Member
+169|7049|Mexico City
if they spawnrape is your whole team fault because they let them get through. You can spawn somewhere else and get them, if thereĀ“s no places left to spawn is your team fault too..
VIKING-LOVER1
Member
+3|7147

uber73 wrote:

Karkand, USA.

To have your commander assets ripped out within the first minute of the round is annoying, but legit and perfectly acceptable, to then have a hummer full of the clan remount, and drive directly to the main base, set up, and wipe people out as they SPAWNED is just plain sad!

This "tournament playing" clan, as they so thankfully informed us, were "allowed to spawnrape and bunnyhop" as its written in the bible of "tournament" play...  I let rip into these sad sods, to be greeted with the reply of "we are better than u, NoOb..!" etc etc.  Im sure u have all been there.  These type of people are, as far as i am concerned teh SCOURGE of online gaming, particularly re fps.  Ive been playing online a long time, almost 15 years, and this type of "score at all costs" player, truely wreck the gaming experience... they remove the sense of immersion, the feeling of team play, and the element of competition.  I dunno if this forum permits expletives, but those f*cksticks should have their accounts crippled.

rant over.
feel free to blog about this type of cretin here.
LOL... ITS CALLED TACTICS YOU DUMMY' THEY WON BUY CORNERING YOUR TEAM
"spawn camper" my ass ..lol

quit your whining and crying like a little 10 year old school girl and come up with better tactics with your team.
its simple bro'

what the hell is spawn camping any way ? i mean realy ???

l
uber73
Member
+188|7054|Brisbane
and the "debate" goes on.
lets put it this way... for the record.

people who spawncamp are selfish players.  they go against the common opinion, both server/admin and players en masse,  that it is unsporting to rape bases.  people who want a fair game, DONT spawnrape, even in response to these 'tards.

make your own mind up.
which side are u on.
its clear from certain posts above, which sides many of u are on.  selfish players ruin other peoples gaming.

i can just imagine what you cretins must be like in the flesh.


oh, and viking? i DONT spawn rape... would u like to compare our K : D rates? what does that say about u...

Last edited by uber73 (2005-12-15 11:32:15)

(B.T.)Blazed
Member
+0|7011

duckforceone wrote:

funny how you pull up my stat, but don't show your own... besides.. look at my score board.. you'll see i have played support most of the time..  i don't use tanks much, and i definately don't use planes and choppers...

come talk about skill when you know what it's about..

oh and just for kicks.. i tried out the assault class the other day... man it's way too easy to rack up a 3:1 kd ratio with that kit... but where's the fun in that...
TOG|DuckForceOne Corporal
Assault      02:45:18      44      91      0.48 

Grenade Launcher Attachment      00:58:34      23      39      0.59  3 to 1 eh??? LMFAO

  I don't post that stupid stat thing cause I could really care less about my stats.  Feel free to look them up however.  http://bf2s.com/player/(B.T.)Blazed/    I'm not claiming to have great stats but I tend to give a little better than i get and I don't whine when people are better than me.

I have also fought off spawncampers to escape my base or spawned somewhere else if that was an option.  I don't even use the assault class so I'm not sure where you are going with that.  If I were less intent on rushing flags to cap them I'm sure I could rack up a pretty good kdr.  I'm just not content to sit back and wait for kills. I rush in sometimes at my own peril.  I'm more intent on capping flags and WINNING THE GAME with my team. 

I'm also not a spawn camper but I don't whine about it and in a war game I don't see how attacking the main base is such a sin.  I'm sure the geneva convention dosn't prohibit attacking enemy military bases.  It is uncappable to make sure your team can stay in the game instead of getting capped out.  If you don't like the way people are playing in a server find a new one.  There are thousands of them. 

Oh and on your support note, you have to be kidding me if that is your excuse for your bad kdr.  I have seen plenty of support guys who rack up plenty of kills as well as supporting their team.  Do you just run around the entire time with your ammo bag out???
l

Last edited by (B.T.)Blazed (2005-12-15 13:44:16)

Kamikaze17
Over the line!
+70|7051|Mark it zero.
good job uber you have a higher k:d than everyone else. maybe thats because you only have 1311 kills with infantry guns, 188 more with exlposives, then 3687 in vehicles, and the rest of your kills being artillery. way to go man. you are pretty good.
(B.T.)Blazed
Member
+0|7011
You are obviously talking about Uber. It is best to clarify these things.
uber73
Member
+188|7054|Brisbane
and?
so im a commander... and what? someone has to...
glad to see ive engaged your interest. better an honest commander than a fucking whore, eh?
Kamikaze17
Over the line!
+70|7051|Mark it zero.
notice how i said "good job uber"

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