The Stillhouse Kid
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Des.Kmal wrote:

The Stillhouse Kid wrote:

The OP's card is only 20Mhz core and 50Mhz memory over stock. That's not going to be enough to burn it out in 3-4 months like you say.

Perhaps you could explain how card makers can sell overclocked versions of their cards when they're the same as the non-oc'd ones and still provide the same warranty? The only difference is the oc'd ones have their BIOS factory set to higher core and memory speeds.
if u overclock it again, the factory is only going to OC it to higher levels. omg, just give up.
That doesn't make a damn bit of sense. If the factory sets the card to run at 580/1500 by default and the user further overclocks that to say 600/1550, the factory setting has no way to increase on that, since it's setting is lower.

clock speeds, thats what the dif is. they are alot fastyer, *some* and thats why they burn out faster.
Again, if they supposedly will burn out faster than the non-oc'd versions then how can they offer the same warranty? 

omg. want me to explain anything else?
Yeah, explain this:

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=48045

Seriously, if I didn't know that you couldn't format the C: drive while Windows is running I believe I'd keep my mouth shut.

PS, Pay close attention to your last post in that thread.

Last edited by The Stillhouse Kid (2006-10-20 14:19:45)

Des.Kmal
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The Stillhouse Kid wrote:

Des.Kmal wrote:

The Stillhouse Kid wrote:

The OP's card is only 20Mhz core and 50Mhz memory over stock. That's not going to be enough to burn it out in 3-4 months like you say.

Perhaps you could explain how card makers can sell overclocked versions of their cards when they're the same as the non-oc'd ones and still provide the same warranty? The only difference is the oc'd ones have their BIOS factory set to higher core and memory speeds.
if u overclock it again, the factory is only going to OC it to higher levels. omg, just give up.
That doesn't make a damn bit of sense. If the factory sets the card to run at 580/1500 by default and the user further overclocks that to say 600/1550, the factory setting has no way to increase on that, since it's setting is lower.

clock speeds, thats what the dif is. they are alot fastyer, *some* and thats why they burn out faster.
Again, if they supposedly will burn out faster than the non-oc'd versions then how can they offer the same warranty? 

omg. want me to explain anything else?
Yeah, explain this:

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=48045

Seriously, if I didn't know that you couldn't format the C: drive while Windows is running I believe I'd keep my mouth shut.

PS, Pay close attention to your last post in that thread.
1. I work at the graphics section in Ghost Net. A computer tech place where I live. Well, since that is done with, why do I need to learn stuff about SCSI? Or SATA? I need to learn about clock speeds, and safe temperature settings, and heatsinks for graphics cards.

2. Since your so fucking sure about this, lets make a bet. You have to overclock you graphics card to as high as it will go and let the temp go to 90 degrees. K? Then use this: http://www.itlocation.com/en/software/prd44937,,.htm
and take screens everyday for 90 days. 3 months, as I said.

I have some predictions to this:

1. You wont do it because you KNOW it will fuck up your gfx card in the long run.
2. You do do it because your just dumb as shit... and it does.

So, it I'm wrong, then I will never post in this section again: Tech.

If I'm right, YOU wont post here again. Sounds good?

Want to bet?
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The Stillhouse Kid
Licensed Televulcanologist
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Des.Kmal wrote:

The Stillhouse Kid wrote:

Des.Kmal wrote:

if u overclock it again, the factory is only going to OC it to higher levels. omg, just give up.
That doesn't make a damn bit of sense. If the factory sets the card to run at 580/1500 by default and the user further overclocks that to say 600/1550, the factory setting has no way to increase on that, since it's setting is lower.

clock speeds, thats what the dif is. they are alot fastyer, *some* and thats why they burn out faster.
Again, if they supposedly will burn out faster than the non-oc'd versions then how can they offer the same warranty? 

omg. want me to explain anything else?
Yeah, explain this:

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=48045

Seriously, if I didn't know that you couldn't format the C: drive while Windows is running I believe I'd keep my mouth shut.

PS, Pay close attention to your last post in that thread.
1. I work at the graphics section in Ghost Net. A computer tech place where I live. Well, since that is done with, why do I need to learn stuff about SCSI? Or SATA? I need to learn about clock speeds, and safe temperature settings, and heatsinks for graphics cards.
That's what I've been saying, you need to learn. Ring the bell, school's in session.

2. Since your so fucking sure about this, lets make a bet. You have to overclock you graphics card to as high as it will go and let the temp go to 90 degrees. K? Then use this: http://www.itlocation.com/en/software/prd44937,,.htm
and take screens everyday for 90 days. 3 months, as I said.

I have some predictions to this:

1. You wont do it because you KNOW it will fuck up your gfx card in the long run.
2. You do do it because your just dumb as shit... and it does.

So, it I'm wrong, then I will never post in this section again: Tech.

If I'm right, YOU wont post here again. Sounds good?

Want to bet?
Give me a break. No one runs their CPU or GPU and full overclock all the time, you're a dumbass if you do. Your little challenge has dick to do with the issue at hand. 70C is an acceptable temperature to run at. I never said running at 90C constantly was a good idea.

I've given independent evidence to support my claims made in this thread, while you've provided NONE to back up yours. You can say you work at such-and-such place all you want, it doesn't do a thing to sway my position. Given the apparent lack of knowledge evident in some of your other posts in this section you have no leg to stand on throwing down the gauntlet.
Des.Kmal
Member
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I still dont get u, u said a bunch of forums said it was safe, have you ever done it? Ive had 2 AGP cards, an x800 and anotrher x800 BURN OUT on me when i OCed them to ridiculously high levels... almsot got fired too.

Wheres this so called "support" you provided? i got alot. experience to.
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Cybargs
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The OC levels are acceptable, but your fan must be fucked since it shouldn't go to 69 at full load... wierd.

Having a GFX card running at 70 degrees constantly will shorten its life span around 3 years...
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Des.Kmal
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cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

The OC levels are acceptable, but your fan must be fucked since it shouldn't go to 69 at full load... wierd.

Having a GFX card running at 70 degrees constantly will shorten its life span around 3 years...
thank you and pwned.

at 90 degrees celcius, im calling 3-6 months.
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The Stillhouse Kid
Licensed Televulcanologist
+126|6638|Deep In The South Of Texas

Des.Kmal wrote:

I still dont get u, u said a bunch of forums said it was safe, have you ever done it? Ive had 2 AGP cards, an x800 and anotrher x800 BURN OUT on me when i OCed them to ridiculously high levels... almsot got fired too.

Wheres this so called "support" you provided? i got alot. experience to.
I had my 6600 overclocked 425/590. That's 125/90MHz over stock. It frequently ran at 71C. I had this card for almost 2 years and never had any problem. I was working perfectly fine until I upgraded a week or so ago.

The problem as I see it as that by your own admission you overclocked your card "ridiculously high." As I stated before, only dumbasses do that. Any overclocker worth a shit will find the limit and then back off from it. You screwed yourself over, and now because you got burned you try to scare others into believing you're right. You sound like a prime example of a little knowledge in the wrong hands being dangerous. If I were your employer I certainly would have fired your incompetent ass.

The following links are to further reinforce my claims.

How do I determine what the optimal operating temperature of my graphics card should be?

That's from NVIDIA's FAQ. Well look, what is that? 85C being shown as a safe temperature? How can this be?

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=839

Post #5 make me feel all warm and fuzzy.

http://www.evga.com/community/messagebo … FORUM_ID=1

EVGA's Page on overclocking. Under the section titled "Testing"

During the entire testing process, ensure that your graphics card temperature never breaks 90C.
EVGA's warranty even covers overclocking and replacing the stock cooler. Guess they don't know what they're talking about either.

http://forums.tweakguides.com/showthread.php?t=166

As far as what is consider “safe” temperature, most nvidia cards have throttling around 120 deg C. Nvtemplogger has a built in color temperature guide which is good basis.

My load temperature recommendations are
-Under 70 deg C, is Great
-70-80 deg C Fair
-Over 80 deg C you might want to consider a new cooling solution

If you idle temperature are under 65 your safe
Note the fact that in all of these forum threads I've linked to here and in my earlier post that no one has ever written back saying the advice given to them damaged their card in any way.
Des.Kmal
Member
+917|6614|Atlanta, Georgia, USA

The Stillhouse Kid wrote:

Des.Kmal wrote:

I still dont get u, u said a bunch of forums said it was safe, have you ever done it? Ive had 2 AGP cards, an x800 and anotrher x800 BURN OUT on me when i OCed them to ridiculously high levels... almsot got fired too.

Wheres this so called "support" you provided? i got alot. experience to.
I had my 6600 overclocked 425/590. That's 125/90MHz over stock. It frequently ran at 71C. I had this card for almost 2 years and never had any problem. I was working perfectly fine until I upgraded a week or so ago.

The problem as I see it as that by your own admission you overclocked your card "ridiculously high." As I stated before, only dumbasses do that. Any overclocker worth a shit will find the limit and then back off from it. You screwed yourself over, and now because you got burned you try to scare others into believing you're right. You sound like a prime example of a little knowledge in the wrong hands being dangerous. If I were your employer I certainly would have fired your incompetent ass.

The following links are to further reinforce my claims.

How do I determine what the optimal operating temperature of my graphics card should be?

That's from NVIDIA's FAQ. Well look, what is that? 85C being shown as a safe temperature? How can this be?

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=839

Post #5 make me feel all warm and fuzzy.

http://www.evga.com/community/messagebo … FORUM_ID=1

EVGA's Page on overclocking. Under the section titled "Testing"

During the entire testing process, ensure that your graphics card temperature never breaks 90C.
EVGA's warranty even covers overclocking and replacing the stock cooler. Guess they don't know what they're talking about either.

http://forums.tweakguides.com/showthread.php?t=166

As far as what is consider “safe” temperature, most nvidia cards have throttling around 120 deg C. Nvtemplogger has a built in color temperature guide which is good basis.

My load temperature recommendations are
-Under 70 deg C, is Great
-70-80 deg C Fair
-Over 80 deg C you might want to consider a new cooling solution

If you idle temperature are under 65 your safe
Note the fact that in all of these forum threads I've linked to here and in my earlier post that no one has ever written back saying the advice given to them damaged their card in any way.
k dude, mine came oc'ed to a 7900gtx. k?

i didnt oc it at al myself.

2, go for it, topic maker, if u feel safe doing it do it?

ok, nub, bet then? take the bet.
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^AgentHawk
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Des.Kmal wrote:

The Stillhouse Kid wrote:

Des.Kmal wrote:

I still dont get u, u said a bunch of forums said it was safe, have you ever done it? Ive had 2 AGP cards, an x800 and anotrher x800 BURN OUT on me when i OCed them to ridiculously high levels... almsot got fired too.

Wheres this so called "support" you provided? i got alot. experience to.
I had my 6600 overclocked 425/590. That's 125/90MHz over stock. It frequently ran at 71C. I had this card for almost 2 years and never had any problem. I was working perfectly fine until I upgraded a week or so ago.

The problem as I see it as that by your own admission you overclocked your card "ridiculously high." As I stated before, only dumbasses do that. Any overclocker worth a shit will find the limit and then back off from it. You screwed yourself over, and now because you got burned you try to scare others into believing you're right. You sound like a prime example of a little knowledge in the wrong hands being dangerous. If I were your employer I certainly would have fired your incompetent ass.

The following links are to further reinforce my claims.

How do I determine what the optimal operating temperature of my graphics card should be?

That's from NVIDIA's FAQ. Well look, what is that? 85C being shown as a safe temperature? How can this be?

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=839

Post #5 make me feel all warm and fuzzy.

http://www.evga.com/community/messagebo … FORUM_ID=1

EVGA's Page on overclocking. Under the section titled "Testing"

During the entire testing process, ensure that your graphics card temperature never breaks 90C.
EVGA's warranty even covers overclocking and replacing the stock cooler. Guess they don't know what they're talking about either.

http://forums.tweakguides.com/showthread.php?t=166

As far as what is consider “safe” temperature, most nvidia cards have throttling around 120 deg C. Nvtemplogger has a built in color temperature guide which is good basis.

My load temperature recommendations are
-Under 70 deg C, is Great
-70-80 deg C Fair
-Over 80 deg C you might want to consider a new cooling solution

If you idle temperature are under 65 your safe
Note the fact that in all of these forum threads I've linked to here and in my earlier post that no one has ever written back saying the advice given to them damaged their card in any way.
k dude, mine came oc'ed to a 7900gtx. k?

i didnt oc it at al myself.

2, go for it, topic maker, if u feel safe doing it do it?

ok, nub, bet then? take the bet.
Iam sorry Kmal, you fail in more ways than one, as cited below:

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https://img177.imageshack.us/img177/9504/picfailsmlwi9.jpg

https://img135.imageshack.us/img135/774/memoryfailai1.jpg

https://img227.imageshack.us/img227/8520/failwm9.jpg

Have a nice day.
Des.Kmal
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where did u come from agenthawk? did u have any part in this conversation?

and, just as a question stillhouse kid, since im such an amature an all.

u said u did not overclock it all the time.

Give me a break. No one runs their CPU or GPU and full overclock all the time, you're a dumbass if you do
You un-overclock it alot?

explain this to me, this is a foreign concept to me, since when i overclock things, its to make them run faster and smoother, once i overclock it, and its stable i leave it there.....
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tupla_s
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I have my XFX 7600gt at 590 Mhz Core Clock / 800 Mhz Memory Clock and it runs fine with stock fan and it runs at 49°C to 51°C
It was OC'ed at the factory though so I don't know if they have changed the fan in it, but I think that they haven't

Last edited by tupla_s (2006-10-22 07:53:06)

The Stillhouse Kid
Licensed Televulcanologist
+126|6638|Deep In The South Of Texas

Des.Kmal wrote:

where did u come from agenthawk? did u have any part in this conversation?

and, just as a question stillhouse kid, since im such an amature an all.

u said u did not overclock it all the time.

Give me a break. No one runs their CPU or GPU and full overclock all the time, you're a dumbass if you do
You un-overclock it alot?

explain this to me, this is a foreign concept to me, since when i overclock things, its to make them run faster and smoother, once i overclock it, and its stable i leave it there.....
Dude, just give up. All you're doing is making a fool of yourself.

But since I feel you need a beter education than the folks at GhostNet seem to be giving you I'll continue with my lesson plan.

When the term "full overclock" is used, it means the absloute limit that a component will reach. For example my A64 3700+ will run overclocked @ 3000Mhz(3GHz) and be stable, but doing so requires more voltage than I care to put into it on a everyday basis, so I run 2700Mhz(2.7Ghz) as my daily setup. That's a 500Mhz gain over the stock 2200Mhz(2.2Ghz). So, as I stated before, anyone who runs at full overclock as an everyday setup is a dumbass.

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