Poll

Should the Armed Forces of any country admit gay people?

Yes56%56% - 147
Only Lesbians14%14% - 37
Only Gay Men0%0% - 2
No27%27% - 72
Total: 258
DonFck
Hibernator
+3,227|6876|Finland

I need around tree fiddy.
INFERNO552
One shot wonder
+62|6685|canada
u could use them to distract the enemy i guess, while the real sodiers go for the flank
Anfidurl
Use the bumper, that's what its for!
+103|6838|Lexington, Kentucky
Honestly. Is the problem with the military, or with our perceptions on who or what is allowable?
Gays have been in military service, with great success, since before the time of the Bible.*
What's changed since the time of classical Greece and tribal life, is this uptight notion of what is acceptable to love, based on the bible. Of course, the line in the bible's Old Testament was meant as a guide, a rule that people in the bronze age desert MUST reproduce or die. But the Old Testament was replaced and invalidated by the New Testament, the words that Jesus brought. So... why is this been taken the wrong way now? I'm interested to hear any theories on this.
*Citation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_Band_of_Thebes
BN
smells like wee wee
+159|7013
if a gay guy joined the navy would he automatically become a rear admiral or just seaman?
Eugefunk84
Member
+48|6779

Miller wrote:

No, plain and simple.  I for one would not like to go into a battle and have some guy gay by my side.  I could only wonder what pranks would be pulled within the Armed forces, it would be like the army navy game, only gay vs straight.
ur ignorant
BN
smells like wee wee
+159|7013
i would bend over backwards to get gays into the military
alien-DSW-Gen
Hates snipers and says the "F" word a lot
+72|6918|Houston, Texas
I think chris rock had a funny joke a few years back on this topic.
BVC
Member
+325|6940

BN wrote:

if a gay guy joined the navy would he automatically become a rear admiral or just seaman?
An up-the-rear admiral?
Adams_BJ
Russian warship, go fuck yourself
+2,054|6867|Little Bentcock
I don't see why not, if they can do the job then why shouldn't the be alowed in?
.:XDR:.PureFodder
Member
+105|7074
They should just stick Bromine in the coffee like the British used to and the problem sorts itself out.

(probably just an urban myth though)
BN
smells like wee wee
+159|7013

.:XDR:.PureFodder wrote:

They should just stick Bromine in the coffee like the British used to and the problem sorts itself out.

(probably just an urban myth though)
"Elemental bromine is a strong irritant and, in concentrated form, will produce painful blisters on exposed skin and especially mucous membranes. Even low concentrations of bromine vapor (from 10 ppm) can affect breathing, and inhalation of significant amounts of bromine can seriously damage the respiratory system."

hmm, still, has to taste better than sweet and low
jonsimon
Member
+224|6740

BN wrote:

i would bend over backwards to get gays into the military
But would you bend over forwards
OuTLaW667
Member
+2|6673
Yes, absolutely....... FRONTLINE CANNON FODDER. Gays FTW!!!!!!!!

Under no circumstances do we want  them playin' REARGUARD tho

Last edited by OuTLaW667 (2006-10-05 15:50:37)

sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7002|Argentina

OuTLaW667 wrote:

Yes, absolutely....... FRONTLINE CANNON FODDER. Gays FTW!!!!!!!!

Under no circumstances do we want  them playin' REARGUARD tho
Who is better to watch your rear than a gay?
Doktorbob
Member
+26|6733
I served in the Navy Reserve for ten years and I am sure there were a few gays around.  Who gives a shit?  During a time of war I dont think they are interested in porking you up the poop chute.  Don't ask and don't tell...
deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6738|Connecticut
Props to all who voted for only Lesbians.
Malloy must go
BN
smells like wee wee
+159|7013
I saw an episode of the west wing about this. I know TWW aint reality but "Fitz" the Chairman Of The Joint Chiefs said something like

"I think the military wasn't designed to be an instrument of social change.The problem with that is that what they were saying to me 50 years ago. Blacks shouldn't serve with whites. It would disrupt the unit. You know what? It did disrupt the unit. The unit got over it. The unit changed. I'm an admiral in the U.S. Navy and chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff... Beat that with a stick."
PHPR Hunter
Member
+4|6783
It appears in this thread that if a person espouses the opinion that gays should not be in the military, the response is a personal attack against the individual.  You all may disagree with the opinion, but to automatically label the writer as homophobe, bigot or whatever does nothing to support your argument.  Just my observation.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6806
Given that the reasons are basically that homosexuality isn't natural, calling them a homophobe is hardly a personal attack.
BN
smells like wee wee
+159|7013

Bubbalo wrote:

Given that the reasons are basically that homosexuality isn't natural, calling them a homophobe is hardly a personal attack.
who says ts not natural?

Human beings are evolving all the time. maybe this is the next step. in 30 years time we might all be bi-sexual!!!!

Last edited by BN (2006-10-05 23:28:10)

Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6806

James-m wrote:

{B-T}<babacanosh> wrote:

gay men shouldnt cuase its strange
here here, its not natural........ your arse is for shitting out of, its not ment to have things put up it by another man, or woman for that matter
Him.
Mongoose
That 70's guy
+156|6775|Sydney, in 1978
theres nothing wrong with them as long as there not totally open about it and let the entire platoon know
TrollmeaT
Aspiring Objectivist
+492|6917|Colorado
Why not , they have the right to serve their country like everyone else. Just because a few people can't get past their personal yuck factor, people seem to think that gay people want to hit on nothing but straight people, they are wrong.
Why are people so afraid of gays? It's not like the sky is going to rain down fireballs & destroy our city's...
so what is it really? that they are afraid that they too might be gay?
I think it makes people uncomfortable because it reveals a part of themselves that they do not like, if they have a problem with gays then it shows their blind unfavorable opinion or feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason. If they don't have a problem with them then they start wondering why they don't, "could I be gay?" they say to themselves & it freaks them out because they never bothered to get to know themselves well enough.
The question should be are you comfortable enough in your own sexuality that others preferences do not bother you.
RyansRangers
Member
+2|6775
I know people who are gay that have served in the armed forces, how can u tell who is gay and who isnt. As long as they don't say it flat out or act flamboyant you will never know. So go ahead and let them serve because they already are.
.:XDR:.PureFodder
Member
+105|7074

James-m wrote:

{B-T}<babacanosh> wrote:

gay men shouldnt cuase its strange
here here, its not natural........ your arse is for shitting out of, its not ment to have things put up it by another man, or woman for that matter
I love the `homosexuality isn't natural` arguement posed by people

on a Computer

on the Internet

2 of the greatest triumphs of nature.......

In any case animals are gay, plants are bi and lots of creatures have sex with themselves! Polygamists, swingers, rapists? Nature's got the lot.

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