I need around tree fiddy.
Poll
Should the Armed Forces of any country admit gay people?
Yes | 56% | 56% - 147 | ||||
Only Lesbians | 14% | 14% - 37 | ||||
Only Gay Men | 0% | 0% - 2 | ||||
No | 27% | 27% - 72 | ||||
Total: 258 |
u could use them to distract the enemy i guess, while the real sodiers go for the flank
Honestly. Is the problem with the military, or with our perceptions on who or what is allowable?
Gays have been in military service, with great success, since before the time of the Bible.*
What's changed since the time of classical Greece and tribal life, is this uptight notion of what is acceptable to love, based on the bible. Of course, the line in the bible's Old Testament was meant as a guide, a rule that people in the bronze age desert MUST reproduce or die. But the Old Testament was replaced and invalidated by the New Testament, the words that Jesus brought. So... why is this been taken the wrong way now? I'm interested to hear any theories on this.
*Citation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_Band_of_Thebes
Gays have been in military service, with great success, since before the time of the Bible.*
What's changed since the time of classical Greece and tribal life, is this uptight notion of what is acceptable to love, based on the bible. Of course, the line in the bible's Old Testament was meant as a guide, a rule that people in the bronze age desert MUST reproduce or die. But the Old Testament was replaced and invalidated by the New Testament, the words that Jesus brought. So... why is this been taken the wrong way now? I'm interested to hear any theories on this.
*Citation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_Band_of_Thebes
if a gay guy joined the navy would he automatically become a rear admiral or just seaman?
ur ignorantMiller wrote:
No, plain and simple. I for one would not like to go into a battle and have some guy gay by my side. I could only wonder what pranks would be pulled within the Armed forces, it would be like the army navy game, only gay vs straight.
i would bend over backwards to get gays into the military
I think chris rock had a funny joke a few years back on this topic.
An up-the-rear admiral?BN wrote:
if a gay guy joined the navy would he automatically become a rear admiral or just seaman?
I don't see why not, if they can do the job then why shouldn't the be alowed in?
They should just stick Bromine in the coffee like the British used to and the problem sorts itself out.
(probably just an urban myth though)
(probably just an urban myth though)
"Elemental bromine is a strong irritant and, in concentrated form, will produce painful blisters on exposed skin and especially mucous membranes. Even low concentrations of bromine vapor (from 10 ppm) can affect breathing, and inhalation of significant amounts of bromine can seriously damage the respiratory system.".:XDR:.PureFodder wrote:
They should just stick Bromine in the coffee like the British used to and the problem sorts itself out.
(probably just an urban myth though)
hmm, still, has to taste better than sweet and low
But would you bend over forwardsBN wrote:
i would bend over backwards to get gays into the military
Yes, absolutely....... FRONTLINE CANNON FODDER. Gays FTW!!!!!!!!
Under no circumstances do we want them playin' REARGUARD tho
Under no circumstances do we want them playin' REARGUARD tho
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Who is better to watch your rear than a gay?OuTLaW667 wrote:
Yes, absolutely....... FRONTLINE CANNON FODDER. Gays FTW!!!!!!!!
Under no circumstances do we want them playin' REARGUARD tho
I served in the Navy Reserve for ten years and I am sure there were a few gays around. Who gives a shit? During a time of war I dont think they are interested in porking you up the poop chute. Don't ask and don't tell...
Props to all who voted for only Lesbians.
Malloy must go
I saw an episode of the west wing about this. I know TWW aint reality but "Fitz" the Chairman Of The Joint Chiefs said something like
"I think the military wasn't designed to be an instrument of social change.The problem with that is that what they were saying to me 50 years ago. Blacks shouldn't serve with whites. It would disrupt the unit. You know what? It did disrupt the unit. The unit got over it. The unit changed. I'm an admiral in the U.S. Navy and chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff... Beat that with a stick."
"I think the military wasn't designed to be an instrument of social change.The problem with that is that what they were saying to me 50 years ago. Blacks shouldn't serve with whites. It would disrupt the unit. You know what? It did disrupt the unit. The unit got over it. The unit changed. I'm an admiral in the U.S. Navy and chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff... Beat that with a stick."
It appears in this thread that if a person espouses the opinion that gays should not be in the military, the response is a personal attack against the individual. You all may disagree with the opinion, but to automatically label the writer as homophobe, bigot or whatever does nothing to support your argument. Just my observation.
Given that the reasons are basically that homosexuality isn't natural, calling them a homophobe is hardly a personal attack.
who says ts not natural?Bubbalo wrote:
Given that the reasons are basically that homosexuality isn't natural, calling them a homophobe is hardly a personal attack.
Human beings are evolving all the time. maybe this is the next step. in 30 years time we might all be bi-sexual!!!!
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Him.James-m wrote:
here here, its not natural........ your arse is for shitting out of, its not ment to have things put up it by another man, or woman for that matter{B-T}<babacanosh> wrote:
gay men shouldnt cuase its strange
theres nothing wrong with them as long as there not totally open about it and let the entire platoon know
Why not , they have the right to serve their country like everyone else. Just because a few people can't get past their personal yuck factor, people seem to think that gay people want to hit on nothing but straight people, they are wrong.
Why are people so afraid of gays? It's not like the sky is going to rain down fireballs & destroy our city's...
so what is it really? that they are afraid that they too might be gay?
I think it makes people uncomfortable because it reveals a part of themselves that they do not like, if they have a problem with gays then it shows their blind unfavorable opinion or feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason. If they don't have a problem with them then they start wondering why they don't, "could I be gay?" they say to themselves & it freaks them out because they never bothered to get to know themselves well enough.
The question should be are you comfortable enough in your own sexuality that others preferences do not bother you.
Why are people so afraid of gays? It's not like the sky is going to rain down fireballs & destroy our city's...
so what is it really? that they are afraid that they too might be gay?
I think it makes people uncomfortable because it reveals a part of themselves that they do not like, if they have a problem with gays then it shows their blind unfavorable opinion or feeling formed beforehand or without knowledge, thought, or reason. If they don't have a problem with them then they start wondering why they don't, "could I be gay?" they say to themselves & it freaks them out because they never bothered to get to know themselves well enough.
The question should be are you comfortable enough in your own sexuality that others preferences do not bother you.
I know people who are gay that have served in the armed forces, how can u tell who is gay and who isnt. As long as they don't say it flat out or act flamboyant you will never know. So go ahead and let them serve because they already are.
I love the `homosexuality isn't natural` arguement posed by peopleJames-m wrote:
here here, its not natural........ your arse is for shitting out of, its not ment to have things put up it by another man, or woman for that matter{B-T}<babacanosh> wrote:
gay men shouldnt cuase its strange
on a Computer
on the Internet
2 of the greatest triumphs of nature.......
In any case animals are gay, plants are bi and lots of creatures have sex with themselves! Polygamists, swingers, rapists? Nature's got the lot.