Bubbalo wrote:
I find it funny that you bitch about the amount of money they get. You go on about how communism sucks and capitalism rocks, and then when two people whom you dislike do the work and get the money, you don't complain about the system, or that politicians benefits are too generous, you blame them personally.
" It's common knowledge that in order for her to establish NY residency, they purchased a million dollar-plus house in upscale Chappaqua, New York. Makes sense. They are entitled to Secret Service protection for life. Still makes sense. Here is where it becomes interesting. Their mortgage payments hover at around $10,000 per month. BUT, an extra residence HAD to be built within the acreage to house the Secret Service agents.
The Clintons charge the Federal government $10,000 monthly rent for the use of that extra residence, which is just about equal to their mortgage payment. This means that we, the taxpayers, are paying the Clinton's salary, mortgage, transportation, safety and security, as well as the salaries for their 12 man staff -- and, this is all perfectly legal! When she runs for President, will you vote for her"
That isn't capitalism, its theft.
golgoj4 wrote:
deeznutz1245 wrote:
golgoj4 wrote:
Never thought I would debate a scared marine. Didnt think they existed. But here goes...
Maybe you should read more and bark less devil dog. The fact that you were a Marine makes me respect you more so I will ask you this: Do we as Americans trade out essential liberty and trample the constitution in the name of security? It seems to run contrary to the beliefs that this country was founded upon. So WHY in the HELL are you telling me to wake up when our government who has PROVED their ineptitude wants to strip the very liberties that would allow us to check their power? Any argument that we should shutup and do what we are told on applies in a battlezone. You know this and I know this. But this is the CIVILLIAN world buddy, which means that now, as scary as it is, the guy telling you whats what IS NOT the absolute authority. So instead of me waking up, maybe its you who needs to wake up and TRULY protect the constitution instead of slowly letting it slip away and barking at those of us who truly understand the essence of America and dont just parrot thoughts given to them by other. Just based on the fact that you couldnt be bothered to read the post indicates the arrogance of your post. And they ARE IDOTS for wanting 'security' at the expense of liberty. Sorry if i actually believe in the Constitution and not my own wet pants.
And in the future, if you expect to be spoken to, bring something to the table other than a longer winded, rehashed version of your original post. I expect better from the Marine Corps.
Make no mistake. If i didnt give a shit about my home, I would fucking move to Canada. But I rember the oath that I took when I joined it said all enemies 'foreigh AND Domestic'. Some people only think the terrorist s are the ones that hate America. I would submit that there are plenty of people here that would be happy if it were a dictatorship too. Yeah im harsh. But you know what? I mean what I say because I truly belive that this country is battling enemies on both sides of its borders. Im not saying the Marine im responding to is my enemy. He is my countryman. But I would ask that he take a long hard look @ what hes saying because it truly conflicts with the morals and ideas this country was founded on.
Lets set the record straight. three things. You are right, there is no such thing as a scared Marine. Second, the argument that our liberties are being sacrificed is a matter of opinion. You think your liberties are and I do not, that proves it. I sure as hell agree with you that we should not sacrifice freedom for safety but I think you are missing my point this time. I dont think the terrorists should have rights. Fuck 'em. There I said it for any liberals out there so they can eat it up.What was the third thing........hhhmmmnnn.....oh yeah. You spelled idiot wrong soldier. Oh yeah one more thing. The reason I didnt read your post in full before was not out of arrogance, but because I was at work and didnt have time. But don't worry folks, I dont work for the government anymore so your tax dollars werent being wasted. Thats someone else's job now!
As far as my spelling, i aint being graded so i could give a shite.
-NSA wiretapping? Anyone recall that? Not legal. Not constitutional. They did it anyways. Fuckers had clues about 9/11 and still didnt connect the dots and im supposed to believe that they can actually do their job with more intrusion? Sorry bub.
-Not constitutional, but important to you and me. Geneva Convention. You and I BOTH know fucking with that doesnt help and Soldier, Airman, Marine or Sailor in the future. Yet this administration move forward with it. Now you make not think terrorists have rights. But people smarter than the both of us came up with the geneva convention so why eff with it? Would you like to not have rights if you were captured? We already had a 'Jack Bauer' clause to torture under specific time critical situations yet we had to go an mess with that too.
So sorry if the slow erosion bothers me. And if your not gonna read a post, why respond?
And wasting taxpayer dollars is one of the key tenets of this administration....waste away.
Oh ffs the geneva convention only applies to other signatory nations and not goat fucking terrorist who butcher and torture our capitive troops whenever they have a chance.
9-11 was an attack on a civilian center in direct violation of the ideals of the geneva convention.
They have no rights.
