BF2S Forums Should Abortion be legal? if so, When ? What Trimester.

Who can remember when they're in the womb?
No-one? I thought so.
Hell, who can remember anything short of their first birthday?
Yes, abortion is okay. Kill the foetus.
I think it's worse bringing a child into a family or to a single parent that dosn't want them and can't supply for them.

Krappyappy wrote:

as long as a fetus isn't capable of breathing on its own and is connected to the mother's blood system, it's essentially an organ of the mother, like a stomach or pancreas.

you can legally cut out your pancreas.

Yea sure Try finding it. theres all kindsa shit stuffed in there and it hurt like hell. I gave up. Why did you say i could do that! I hate you now.

No it shouldn't. If the mother didn't want a baby to begin with, her dumb ass should have gone anal instead. Or use protection, or the pill. This is the reason we still have AIDS in todays modern world.

People are careless and need to be taught some hard facts of life these days. If that includes brining up a baby, then so be it. If you cant take care if it, find someone or somebodies who can. Hell, get your ovaries removed, but for fucks sake, if your not old enough to know that sex = babies, then wtf are you doing having sex for in the first place?

I understand people get raped too, maybe that would be the only plausable exception to a mother. But anything else is just wrong, because its the effect of your own dumb ass for letting someone do you unprotected.

Last edited by Ryan_Mercury (2005-12-06 23:18:35)

Ryan_Mercury wrote:

No it shouldn't. If the mother didn't want a baby to begin with, her dumb ass should have gone anal instead. Or use protection, or the pill. This is the reason we still have AIDS in todays modern world.

People are careless and need to be taught some hard facts of life these days. If that includes brining up a baby, then so be it. If you cant take care if it, find someone or somebodies who can. Hell, get your ovaries removed, but for fucks sake, if your not old enough to know that sex = babies, then wtf are you doing having sex for in the first place?

I understand people get raped too, maybe that would be the only plausable exception to a mother. But anything else is just wrong, because its the effect of your own dumb ass for letting someone do you unprotected.

of course i know that sex=babies. humans and doplhins are the only 2 animals in the world which do it not just for the sake of reproducing. most people do it for enjoyment. but accidents do happen. condoms do break, and pills do fail.

airplanes crash, but people don't fly airplanes just to crash them. people don't just have sex in order to get pregnant. however it happens. its a very rare occurence(sp?), and i beleive abortion should be used in order to clear up those mistakes.

i agree some people are careless, and like the guy said, i don't encourage them using it every time they fuck up, but some people do get unwanted pregnancies by no fault of their own.

For one, everyone KNOWS there is an associated risk even when using protection. If they are not prepared to meet the possible concequence, ie, having a baby by means of a possible 'accient', then they should revert to other means of pleasure or prevention.

The fact is, they just don't give a shit about that risk. "Oh, it's not going to happen to me!!"

And that brings me back to my point, they need to face up. People don't join the Army not understanding theirs a possible risk of life. People don't board airplanes not knowing theres still a probabal chance of crashing or hijacking.

And on and on. People live their lifes based on analizing risks in their subconscience.

My point, again, is that just like any other decision, sex is one of the optional things people can decide not to do if they dont want to. Walk in stead of drive, drive instead of fly, whatever.

If they arnt prepared for the risks in these cases, don't do it. Or find an alternate route.

If you decide to take that route anyway, you better be prepared, instead of trying to take a shortcut, like changing the law. It's not like you can plead with god to let you live again because you fully understood theres a chance of getting into a car accident on the highway.

Oh I'm sorry. Off topic? You brought in the comparison arguement.

My two cents:

Basically for me abortion should be okay up until the baby would be able to survive outside the mothers body.

But hey, as my mum says "Its the woman's body and no man has the right to tell her what to do with her own f***ing body"

Direct quote that

Abortion have been legal in the netherland for about 30 years now and we have the lowest numbers of abortions of europe.

I agree a woman should have the choice whether she s ready to raise a kid or not.

we have the lowest number of abortions PER 1000 women, that in percents matey

7thscout wrote:

Minnesoter wrote "Interesting all this predominantly male talk of abortion." 

I can understand why you say that Minnesoter reading posts like:

Horseman77 wrote "Should there be an Abortion kit in BF2 if they add female soldier skins ?

And posts like:

Ryan_Mercury wrote "No it shouldn't. If the mother didn't want a baby to begin with, her dumb ass should have gone anal instead. Or use protection, or the pill. This is the reason we still have AIDS in todays modern world. People are careless and need to be taught some hard facts of life these days. If that includes brining up a baby, then so be it. If you cant take care if it, find someone or somebodies who can. Hell, get your ovaries removed, but for fucks sake, if your not old enough to know that sex = babies, then wtf are you doing having sex for in the first place?

I understand people get raped too, maybe that would be the only plausable exception to a mother. But anything else is just wrong, because its the effect of your own dumb ass for letting someone do you unprotected."

Minnesoter wrote "I'm curious how many men believe they should have a right to oppose or even insist on an abortion."

I couldnt agree with you more Minnesoter

Your absolutely right.  So a child should go through life with one parent, little income, and barely a chance to make anything of himself because his mother and/or father was a "dumb ass for letting someone do you unprotected".  Adoption is not the same thing as living with your true parents, and often causes resentment when the child matures.  I know a few adopted people who struggle ALOT with this, and it causes them numerous emotional problems.  I also know a few adopted children that are fine with it (to be fair).

I think adoption is great - hell, I have a cousin who is adopted.  But I do believe that the option of abortion should be there, but ONLY in the first trimester.  This keeps abortions mainly to those who know they won't be able to support the baby or concieved it through ways not their choice (i.e. rape victims, lower income families WITHOUT ACCESS TO BIRTH CONTROL, etc.).  This would stop people from going halfway through their pregnancy and then deciding that they want an abortion.

To me, abortion is something that is decided as soon as (or soon after) the child is learned of, NOT something you ponder for a few months before deciding.  You can either support the child, or you can't.

DrDestruction wrote:

To me, abortion is something that is decided as soon as (or soon after) the child is learned of, NOT something you ponder for a few months before deciding.  You can either support the child, or you can't.

quoted for truth. even though i believe that a woman has the absolute right to abortion even up to the time of birth, there is rarely the need to wait so long. the decision to abort a fetus should be made as early as possible, to make the procedure less complex and cost less.

nzjafa wrote:

After a couple 40oz and a few dumb mistakes a couple months ago, i found i was going to be a dad. thankfully this never came true. without abortion, i would have been paying child support for the next 18 years. i'm 15, which means i'd be paying until i was 33. i'm for it. like the two before me said, the foetus isn't self-aware. no-one knows these things, but i think it would never even know it was there. as long as it isn't self sufficient and conscious, i think that it is the choice of the parents because they will be the ones who would have 2 care for it.

Hopefully you have learned to keep the snake in your pants until your married.
I did, because, when I was 16, I like you had a few beers and scrumped this girl she got knocked up.
Yes, a one night stand. He is now is 22 years old. theres a lot more to this but the basic is and to anyone thats not married. DON'T DO IT wait until your married. There are way to many females now days that want to get knocked up have a kid so they so they think can raise them better then what thier parents had done with them. Only Girlfriend you should have is rosie palm. Then you wont have to worry about abortion ever.

I'm really retarded for posting this here...but I have to say it...

No.

Oh, and to cover a base, I don't care if you think it shuold be legal, thats your problem, dosn't effect my world but I don't think it should be legal at all.  If you've gotta have it, shoot the bitch in the head.  Atleast then we have two less things to worry about.