BF2S Forums Why are Americans so F A T

lowing wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:

I gave examples of what liberals want did I not??

Some things. That's a biased perspective and you know it.

Most of the issues you raised, that liberals support, are based around helping those less fortunate. I don't consider helping out those who can't find work etc. That said, I do believe there should be tighter controls on a lot of these benefits, you do hear a lot of cases where totally undeserving people are getting massive benefit payouts, because they had 5 kids before they were 20, or something similar.

CEO's often get stupid deals. There is nothing wrong with a CEO being successful and making money. What there is something wrong with is CEOs of massive companies getting pay increases while their companies are losing money and employees are being laid off. This happens. If you are a success as a CEO, ok fair enough - well done take a pay rise.

I agree with all you have said, you are definatly  moderately left, if at all.

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Twist wrote:

lowing wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Becoming fat isn't a smart thing to do.

Neither is smoking, drinking, speeding, cheating, buying lotto tickets, riding motorcycles without a helmet, casual sex without protection on and on and on. Who cares what someone does to themselves. At least a fat ass isn't hurting anyone but themselves or even have the potential to hurt anyone but themselves.

By the way, FloJo wasn't fat and she died at 39 or some shit, while Jackie Gleason lived to be in his 70's or 80's.  Again who cares?

It doesn't HURT anyone ? I'd say that depends WILDLY on how you define "hurt". ATM the US economy is at one of it's lowest points EVER... There are people who say on the verge of a collapse (I know there's been people saying that for a long time, but I'm starting to believe some of that crap now). and the FAT people not only take up more time in hospitals, more resources in the medical indutry and use an unhealthy amount of gas (because you never see a fat guy WALK anywhere, or even use a bicycle !), food, wrapping etc. etc.
In short, fat people are more expensive than lean people. People who are healthy spend less time in the hospital. They dont have the drug industry trying to sell them crap they dont need (well they DO, but on a lesser scale) thus taking resources from valuable research  into other diseases such as alzheimers, cancer etc. Lean people do sports and participate in an active social life, proving much needed volunteering to places in need (when was the last time you saw a fat guy in a soup kitchen, big borther programme or other volunteer job who wasn't doing community service for a DUI or some shit ?) and provinding safer neighbourhoods by the social nature. Fat people are more frequently sick , thus neglecting their jobs, they retire earlier for health reasons etc, etc. About the only GOOD thing fat people do is to die early so they dont have to get huge pensions and take up many more years in the health insurance system.

I could go on and on about how obesity costs this and that much in a society. But you go find the numbers, and you get the shock for yourself, and then you'll want to change your life also.

I know that I'm "stereotyping" people here. There are LOADS of exceptions where fat guys are very healthy, active, etc. etc. and lean guys who are shitty people etc. etc. But I'm not talking about the EXCEPTIONS, I'm talking about the majority. And it's the majority of the fat people who are expensive !

Jusster wrote:

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  I find it interesting that in some countries where most poor or middle class people are thin while the wealthy are overweight.  In alot of societies being overweight is a sign of prosperity.  If you look at all the old European paintings of what people considered to be beautiful, then you would see it is in stark contrast to what we perceive today.  They were all large women.  Thats not my type, but to some it maybe.

In the U.S. and most other western societies, it is the opposite.  Most people can afford to eat, but they can't afford to eat right.  Of course there are other factors involved as well.



Jusster

BMW330i wrote:

Jusster wrote:

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  I find it interesting that in some countries where most poor or middle class people are thin while the wealthy are overweight.  In alot of societies being overweight is a sign of prosperity.  If you look at all the old European paintings of what people considered to be beautiful, then you would see it is in stark contrast to what we perceive today.  They were all large women.  Thats not my type, but to some it maybe.

In the U.S. and most other western societies, it is the opposite.  Most people can afford to eat, but they can't afford to eat right.  Of course there are other factors involved as well.



Jusster

I think you're fat.

lowing wrote:

Twist wrote:

lowing wrote:

Neither is smoking, drinking, speeding, cheating, buying lotto tickets, riding motorcycles without a helmet, casual sex without protection on and on and on. Who cares what someone does to themselves. At least a fat ass isn't hurting anyone but themselves or even have the potential to hurt anyone but themselves.

By the way, FloJo wasn't fat and she died at 39 or some shit, while Jackie Gleason lived to be in his 70's or 80's.  Again who cares?

It doesn't HURT anyone ? I'd say that depends WILDLY on how you define "hurt". ATM the US economy is at one of it's lowest points EVER... There are people who say on the verge of a collapse (I know there's been people saying that for a long time, but I'm starting to believe some of that crap now). and the FAT people not only take up more time in hospitals, more resources in the medical indutry and use an unhealthy amount of gas (because you never see a fat guy WALK anywhere, or even use a bicycle !), food, wrapping etc. etc.
In short, fat people are more expensive than lean people. People who are healthy spend less time in the hospital. They dont have the drug industry trying to sell them crap they dont need (well they DO, but on a lesser scale) thus taking resources from valuable research  into other diseases such as alzheimers, cancer etc. Lean people do sports and participate in an active social life, proving much needed volunteering to places in need (when was the last time you saw a fat guy in a soup kitchen, big borther programme or other volunteer job who wasn't doing community service for a DUI or some shit ?) and provinding safer neighbourhoods by the social nature. Fat people are more frequently sick , thus neglecting their jobs, they retire earlier for health reasons etc, etc. About the only GOOD thing fat people do is to die early so they dont have to get huge pensions and take up many more years in the health insurance system.

I could go on and on about how obesity costs this and that much in a society. But you go find the numbers, and you get the shock for yourself, and then you'll want to change your life also.

I know that I'm "stereotyping" people here. There are LOADS of exceptions where fat guys are very healthy, active, etc. etc. and lean guys who are shitty people etc. etc. But I'm not talking about the EXCEPTIONS, I'm talking about the majority. And it's the majority of the fat people who are expensive !

In the context of my post it was pretty clear I meant NOT hurting anyone else health wise.

millhous wrote:

lowing wrote:

LOL, I love it, 10 frickin' pages of who is to blame for an INDIVIDUALS wieght problem. Throw in blaming themselves, and everyone runs.....

Thats cause its easier to blame someone else for your problems then yourself.

IntrebuloN wrote:

idk why, mebbe i'm lucky but i eat mickey d's or something equally non-nutritious about 5-6 times a week

im 6' even, 195 lbs, 27yo like long walks on the beach .....yadda

Turquoise wrote:

Not that you wanted to know, but I'm 6'3" and 185 lbs.

I think most of the obesity problem is a result of radically changing lifestyles with little change to diet.  We have so many labor-saving devices, but most of our traditional foods (cheeseburgers, etc.) were conceived among a much more physically active society.