Mason4Assassin444
retired
+552|7089|USA

d4rkst4r wrote:

G3 is the worst gun in this game. It has only a 20 shot magazine, do not use it. Its so badly inaccurate its not even funny
Negative ghost rider.
elmo1337
Banned
+186|6986|The real world
ak101
TangsterChinkz
Banned
+14|6996|Pwning u n00bs

elmo1337 wrote:

ak101
This is another one my my niggas too!
Viro
Member
+3|6948|The Hague

Canadian_Sniper_X wrote:

It's more acurate... really useful that you can fire it while standing up. Fires faster then the PKM so, I think the G3 does more damage per second.

the only Bad thing about it is the clip... I can usually only kill 2 people per clip.
I kill at least 5 people with 1 clip. It take 3 bullets to kill a enemy. If you practice a little bit with the G3 and you know how to use it, no other gun/rifle can stop you. only a tank/apc etc.
TangsterChinkz
Banned
+14|6996|Pwning u n00bs

Viro wrote:

Canadian_Sniper_X wrote:

It's more acurate... really useful that you can fire it while standing up. Fires faster then the PKM so, I think the G3 does more damage per second.

the only Bad thing about it is the clip... I can usually only kill 2 people per clip.
I kill at least 5 people with 1 clip. It take 3 bullets to kill a enemy. If you practice a little bit with the G3 and you know how to use it, no other gun/rifle can stop you. only a tank/apc etc.
Obviously u havent come across good players then
Noop-Ni
ROAR
+14|6925

Viro wrote:

I kill at least 5 people with 1 clip. It take 3 bullets to kill a enemy. If you practice a little bit with the G3 and you know how to use it, no other gun/rifle can stop you. only a tank/apc etc.
If it takes three bullets per person, and you kill five people per magazine, then you must have an accuracy of something like 75%. Looks like you're exaggerating your skills just a little bit there, boss.


As to the G3, yeah, it's a damn good gun. Kind of annoying since it lacks a grenade launcher, and it doesn't hold much, but it's damn accurate, and the damage is seriously high. Good if you get used to it. You'll have to deal with the fact that you might only be winning fights because your opponents haven't played long enough to unlock the same weapons as you, though. That could be kinda depressing.
MrE`158
Member
+103|7050
Compare the G3 with the others at this useful little site:  http://www.pixelwebgroup.com/temp/bf2/b … eapons.htm

You'll see that compared to any other Assault weapon, it does more damage.  We know that much already, though.  It has a better base accuracy than everything other than the M16, so it's a pretty good shot. 

It's weak in two areas:  Firstly, and most obviously, is the ammo load.  A twenty-round magazine takes a bit of getting used to, and means that although you've got a powerful weapon, a large group of enemy is probably going to be a problem if you're on your own.  The other weakness is that the G3's accuracy suffers more due to movement than other Assault rifles.  (Deviation added for moving forward/strafing is 0.5, higher than any other).  This means that it's a little less useful when you're rushing somewhere, but it's really not a big thing.  Generally if you're charging down an enemy position and need to move and fire, you're at close enough range for it to not matter much anyway.

So, the G3:  Lots of power, able to butcher most targets faster than they can get you.  More accurate than the other powerful assault rifles (the AKs).  Limited by a small ammo load, and a minor flaw when running and gunning. 

A lot of it is going to come down to personal taste.  I, for example, have never really liked the AK's. I prefer accuracy over power.  The G3 gives me both in a nice package, but the small magazine takes a good bit of getting used to, and given that you'll probably want to change your magazine after every engagement, you're likely to want a Support guy around to keep the bullets flowing. 

Right now, I'm playing with the M16 a lot, 'cause I enjoy its accuracy, and I'm learning how to use the GL properly, but the G3 is still a great choice for any Assault player.
Lionbeat
Member
+9|7073|LONDON
Someone earlier said that the assault kit is for n00bs. Why?

It's the kit where you don't get inf health, ammo and less run? Wierd comment.

I did play it a lot when I first joined the game, but have returned to it with new (deadly) eyes now...

I got my K up from .63 to .78 in a couple of weeks, as I'm applying what I've learnt on other kits to assault.

Assault has BADASS guns!

M16 - Wicked accuracy, good clip size, serious damage esp. at close range. GL is great too - hit the hummer/vodnik on the turret - he dead! Anyone else notice that it doesn't seem to take out groups tho? Not a big kill radius.

G3 - Awesome stopper. Ammo clip is small, but this teaches you discipline and also helps you ramp up accuracy - you know your bullets come at a premium. Hand tossed grenades is nice too - they seem to have wider kill radius than GL rounds. Also, pop the G3 on single shot, go prone and do the business from disance. If there's someone with a semi-auto engaging you 9/10 you'll win. G3 is ACCURATE, and TAKES LESS shots to murder.

F2000 - Love it to. The scope is a bit sort of skiddy - it moves to quickly, but I've lowered res on my G7 mouse, and that helps. It's quite powerful, though you're talking 3-4 round kill. Good clip size. GL is decent too - seems easier to aim thatn M16. LOVE the flashbangs. I took out 4 guys on Mashtuur he other night using it - they were squaded up, hiding behind by the radar unit - FLASHBANG - 2 rfile kills, 1 GL and a final knife stabby! Was lovely!

Anyway, bottom line, they're all good guns, and G3 certainly makes a decent addition to the choices. I'd take it over any of the AT unlocks anyday, and def over a SCAR-L.

LION

edit - it WAS four! ;-)

Last edited by Lionbeat (2006-09-06 09:43:15)

Noop-Ni
ROAR
+14|6925

Lionbeat wrote:

Someone earlier said that the assault kit is for n00bs. Why?
Well, it kinda depends. If there's proper squad work going on, then medics are superior in most ways. They don't get grenade launchers, and they can take around one shot less before dying, but they can just revive each other. A squad of four good medics is a lot more difficult to take down than a squad of four assault players. Unless you can take down the whole squad, they'll be back and fighting seconds later with no ticket loss.
Assault is good for some things, though. In one on one fights, they can be brutal, and if they're using the grenade launcher correctly they can get loads of kills. They're fun to solo with, too. The armour gives them an edge, and medics are plentiful, so you can just take their kits to heal yourself. Grappling hooks are nice, too, if you play SF.



Alternately, you could just say the assault kit is a noob kit because of the incorrect belief that grenade launchers take no skill. But that would be simple. Must make everything complicated. Yes.
Fenris_GreyClaw
Real Хорошо
+826|6946|Adelaide, South Australia

Lionbeat wrote:

I took out 3 guys on Mashtuur he other night using it - they were squaded up, hiding behind by the radar unit - FLASHBANG - 2 rfile kills, 1 GL and a final knife stabby! Was lovely!
LION
Hmmm... 2+1+1.... hang on, that 3 should be a 4! OMG!

MrE`158 wrote:

I prefer accuracy over power. 

Right now, I'm playing with the M16 a lot, 'cause I enjoy its accuracy.
^hell yeah
Lionbeat
Member
+9|7073|LONDON
Edited my post - it was 4!

Can't believe I played one of my favourite kill streaks down like that!

Flashbangs!
Kurazoo
Pheasant Plucker
+440|7111|West Yorkshire, U.K
Its a great gun at close range on auto, and single shot over a long distance, ive had a few headshots with the g3 which only took 1 bullet to kill it pwns
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6872|The Land of Scott Walker
I highly recommend the G3 to anyone.  It was my 1st unlock, though I didn't do so well with it at first.  Problem was I was using it like the AKs and running out of ammo.  Can't use the G3 that way.  Then I switched the G3 on single shot and went prone. . . it turned into a very deadly rifle.  I've picked off many a sniper on single shot w/ iron sights. 

20 round mag is smaller, but the rounds do more damage, so I never worry about it.  Just be aware of your ammo level depending on how many enemies are in the area.  As a squad leader, I grab the G3 and one of my squad members works as support, then ammo is not in short supply.  Problem solved.  One on one at close range, the G3 works great using bursts.  You use more ammo, but you're guaranteed a kill.  Sometimes you can even take an enemy out on single shot close in because of the high damage.  No GL?  Who cares, more nades.

The F2000 scope makes a nice sight picture compared to iron sights.  The scope also gives the ability to more finely tune your shots and acquire your target much faster.  Though the F2000 is certainly not as powerful as the G3, it makes up for it with better accuracy, especially on single shot.  With a good hiding spot, I've picked off snipers on top of the TV station at Sharqi from long range by going prone, using the scope w/ single shot.  If I was going to do it all over again, I'd still take the G3 first.
Superior Mind
(not macbeth)
+1,755|7120
The G3 was my first unlock...I love it. It is the most bad ass assault rifle in BF2. For me, it's about power.
ie. G3, M95, PKM, L85A1
Longbow
Member
+163|7073|Odessa, Ukraine

Greenspan wrote:

The only problem is, Assault class is for noobs.
Same as your s\o .
znozer
Viking fool - Crazy SWE
+162|6971|Sverige (SWE)

d3v1ldr1v3r13 wrote:

its a Heckler and Koch G3, standard issue for the German and Greek Military.
Is also a standard weapon in the SWE army but it is called "AK4".......
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6895
Accuracy is poor for an unlock. Its better in short bursts then the PKM but sustained firing is limited by low clip size. The 20 round clip is what keeps it from being the best gun in the game.
ssun1
Member
+0|6870

Viro wrote:

Canadian_Sniper_X wrote:

It's more acurate... really useful that you can fire it while standing up. Fires faster then the PKM so, I think the G3 does more damage per second.

the only Bad thing about it is the clip... I can usually only kill 2 people per clip.
I kill at least 5 people with 1 clip. It take 3 bullets to kill a enemy. If you practice a little bit with the G3 and you know how to use it, no other gun/rifle can stop you. only a tank/apc etc.
So you kill at least 5 people per clip.  Judging from your stats, you have a 0.5974 K : D ratio with assault rifles.  Am I the only one that notices any discrepancy?  I guess you could factor in that you suck with the other assault rifles, but still, killing an average of 5 people with one clip is pretty far fetched especially with your abilities.

Last edited by ssun1 (2006-09-06 12:27:11)

Mason4Assassin444
retired
+552|7089|USA

ssun1 wrote:

Viro wrote:

Canadian_Sniper_X wrote:

It's more acurate... really useful that you can fire it while standing up. Fires faster then the PKM so, I think the G3 does more damage per second.

the only Bad thing about it is the clip... I can usually only kill 2 people per clip.
I kill at least 5 people with 1 clip. It take 3 bullets to kill a enemy. If you practice a little bit with the G3 and you know how to use it, no other gun/rifle can stop you. only a tank/apc etc.
So you kill at least 5 people per clip.  Judging from your stats, you have a 0.5974 K ratio with assault rifles.  Am I the only one that notices any discrepancy?  I guess you could factor i that you suck with the other assault rifles, but still, killing an average of 5 people with one clip is pretty far fetched.
It would be very hard to do everytime but I dont know if he was implying that. It is possible to do though. Very good feeling too.
ssun1
Member
+0|6870
Its possible and I'm sure lots of people have done it.  I wouldnt be suprised if he has done it before.  But for him to say that he usually kills 5 people with one clip is an obvious lie, especially considering his horrid performance with assault rifles in general.  Apparently he should take his own advice and get some more practice before lecturing someone else about how to use a weapon.
ChyneseGUY
Member
+20|6912

ssun1 wrote:

Viro wrote:

Canadian_Sniper_X wrote:

It's more acurate... really useful that you can fire it while standing up. Fires faster then the PKM so, I think the G3 does more damage per second.

the only Bad thing about it is the clip... I can usually only kill 2 people per clip.
I kill at least 5 people with 1 clip. It take 3 bullets to kill a enemy. If you practice a little bit with the G3 and you know how to use it, no other gun/rifle can stop you. only a tank/apc etc.
So you kill at least 5 people per clip.  Judging from your stats, you have a 0.5974 K : D ratio with assault rifles.  Am I the only one that notices any discrepancy?  I guess you could factor in that you suck with the other assault rifles, but still, killing an average of 5 people with one clip is pretty far fetched especially with your abilities.
i wouldnt say its impossible but thats pretty unlikely. you'd have to get all your shots to hit except 5. So far the 1-2 hours i've used it it takes 4-6 shots to kill one person on average, considering the guy jumping and whatnot. Although last night i did get 6 kills with one clip. 6 people in a row manned the TOW at marketplace and i killed them all off with single shot. I must have gotten atleast 2 headshots cuz i only hit them once and they went down, even though their head wasnt actually showing from were i was shooting (river crossing to farmhouse)
polarbearz
Raiders of the Lost Bear
+-1,474|7216|Singapore

Viro wrote:

Canadian_Sniper_X wrote:

It's more acurate... really useful that you can fire it while standing up. Fires faster then the PKM so, I think the G3 does more damage per second.

the only Bad thing about it is the clip... I can usually only kill 2 people per clip.
I kill at least 5 people with 1 clip. It take 3 bullets to kill a enemy. If you practice a little bit with the G3 and you know how to use it, no other gun/rifle can stop you. only a tank/apc etc.
Hail the bullshit king.

You kill 'at least 5 people with 1 clip', and it takes 3 shots DEAD ON to kill. So basically you score a hit with everyshot? You've gotta teach me that.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7048|London, England

polarbearz wrote:

Viro wrote:

Canadian_Sniper_X wrote:

It's more acurate... really useful that you can fire it while standing up. Fires faster then the PKM so, I think the G3 does more damage per second.

the only Bad thing about it is the clip... I can usually only kill 2 people per clip.
I kill at least 5 people with 1 clip. It take 3 bullets to kill a enemy. If you practice a little bit with the G3 and you know how to use it, no other gun/rifle can stop you. only a tank/apc etc.
Hail the bullshit king.

You kill 'at least 5 people with 1 clip', and it takes 3 shots DEAD ON to kill. So basically you score a hit with everyshot? You've gotta teach me that.
He might've got some lucky headshots or hit people with low health. It does do 40 damage afterall, and not everybody runs around with full health. Even some dumb medics who forget they have infinite health.
ssun1
Member
+0|6870

Mekstizzle wrote:

polarbearz wrote:

Viro wrote:


I kill at least 5 people with 1 clip. It take 3 bullets to kill a enemy. If you practice a little bit with the G3 and you know how to use it, no other gun/rifle can stop you. only a tank/apc etc.
Hail the bullshit king.

You kill 'at least 5 people with 1 clip', and it takes 3 shots DEAD ON to kill. So basically you score a hit with everyshot? You've gotta teach me that.
He might've got some lucky headshots or hit people with low health. It does do 40 damage afterall, and not everybody runs around with full health. Even some dumb medics who forget they have infinite health.
We arent denying that hes done it before.  We are just calling BS on the fact that he talks as if its an usual occurence.  His average usage of assault rifles has him dying close to two times for every kill he gets.  Meaning for every time he got 5 kills with one clip, he died at like 9 times after that without a kill.
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6872|The Land of Scott Walker

ssun1 wrote:

Mekstizzle wrote:

polarbearz wrote:


Hail the bullshit king.

You kill 'at least 5 people with 1 clip', and it takes 3 shots DEAD ON to kill. So basically you score a hit with everyshot? You've gotta teach me that.
He might've got some lucky headshots or hit people with low health. It does do 40 damage afterall, and not everybody runs around with full health. Even some dumb medics who forget they have infinite health.
We arent denying that hes done it before.  We are just calling BS on the fact that he talks as if its an usual occurence.  His average usage of assault rifles has him dying close to two times for every kill he gets.  Meaning for every time he got 5 kills with one clip, he died at like 9 times after that without a kill.
Dying 2 times for every kill is an overall average.  Doesn't mean he'll die 9 times after every 5 kills.  Everyone gets good with time.  I shoot sooo much better now but it has taken awhile to improve my average K/D ratio.  Why?  Included in that ratio is the first couple thousand points where I died a lot more than I do now.  You can't judge whether he can kill 5 with one clip now based on the average that includes the beginning.  Not a fair comparison.

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