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SF has even more questionable balance however
The majority of players does NOT consist of "Grand master players". The majority of players are people who play ocassionaly and don´t wan´t to practice all the time, they want to play and have fun while gathering some point and enhance their skills. But his way the majority of players will get annoyed if they get baseraped again and again.[TvC]Unbe@table wrote:
I guess its a matter of opinion...Grand master players say that it sucks being kicked and that all is fair in love and war. While the less talented players say that I should stop camping/base raping and that its of players like me that make the game less fun..
If you keep baseraping it´s not really a wonder that you get kicked as most of the players will either kickvote against you or the admin just kicks/bans you to enhance the fun for everyone else.
As you've not really detailed what you've done, could it be that you violated the rules of that server? Many servers have rules against camping uncaptured points. Once you've taken the point you can sit on it all you want, but camping on uncaptured flag points is a no-no on some servers. Some servers also don't allow camping/base raping of non-cap bases. These servers usually have this information in the notes box when you log into the server. If you fail to follow these rules, because you feel you should be able to play that way, then you deserve to get kicked/banned. As has been said so many times, if you don't like the rules, find another server that allows, or even encourages, this type of game play and tactics.
Many people also find choppers that sit and camp/base rape as a problem due to the severe lack of AA accuracy and damage that results from hits with AA weapons; for further details, just look at the why try AA thread just a little below this one.
I'm by no means accussing you of anything, but I generally find that people are only telling the part of the story that makes them look like a victim, and not the whole story.
Many people also find choppers that sit and camp/base rape as a problem due to the severe lack of AA accuracy and damage that results from hits with AA weapons; for further details, just look at the why try AA thread just a little below this one.
I'm by no means accussing you of anything, but I generally find that people are only telling the part of the story that makes them look like a victim, and not the whole story.
No offense but how can you compare the war in Iraq with a video game?[TvC]Unbe@table wrote:
Do you think that during the Iraq war, Saddam was thinking to himself...
FU** YOU BUSH!!! Youre taking the fun outta war by bombing my uncappable flag! Its no fun for me now!! I will just hide in a hole for a week. DA**IT!
AND....
Bush said to his guys... DONT LET THEM TAKE OFF IN THEIR JETS AND HELOS! CAP THEM BEFORE THEY CAN GET IN THE AIR!!
Then the USMC pilots said.. DA**IT I cant get in the air!!! SADDAM WILL YOU BAN THE PILOTS??!!?? PLEASE??!!?? THey are taking the fun out of this war!! DA**IT!!
Tell me about it. These are the same people that bitch because the M95 is not a one-hit kill.Sgt.Gh0st wrote:
No offense but how can you compare the war in Iraq with a video game?[TvC]Unbe@table wrote:
Do you think that during the Iraq war, Saddam was thinking to himself...
FU** YOU BUSH!!! Youre taking the fun outta war by bombing my uncappable flag! Its no fun for me now!! I will just hide in a hole for a week. DA**IT!
AND....
Bush said to his guys... DONT LET THEM TAKE OFF IN THEIR JETS AND HELOS! CAP THEM BEFORE THEY CAN GET IN THE AIR!!
Then the USMC pilots said.. DA**IT I cant get in the air!!! SADDAM WILL YOU BAN THE PILOTS??!!?? PLEASE??!!?? THey are taking the fun out of this war!! DA**IT!!
Obviously you've never flown with me in a bomber. My best kill steak is 64 which was done on Dagging Oilfields with the SU-34, and none of the kills were at the USMC main base. My teams ground pounders sucked so all I had to do was bomb the enemy hardware that was at the other flags. I started the map in the pilots seat and I never died the entire map. If I can get into a bomber my kills are almost always 30-60 with very few deaths. I have also gotten at least three co-pilots their Airiel Service Ribbon.dshak wrote:
I'm sorry but I just flat out don't believe someone accumulates 30-40 kills to zero deaths consistently by being good in the air, I've flown gun with some REMARKABLE pilots on this game and the only way we would have had kill to deaths like that consistently would be to base rape and spawn camp, but who knows.
As for the no-cap base raping, GROW UP. If the whole damn team wasn't sitting at the uncap figthing over planes/helo's/tanks instead of out taking/protecting flags the base rapers wouldn't have anyone to kill. The =GOW= server says it best, "Base raping is not only allowed, it's FUN"
Last edited by Scorpian65 (2005-12-01 13:43:48)
Scoprion,
I was refering to helicopters only. I know the jets are easily capable of this, should have clarified.
orignal poster - You can't say "we all do it" with regards to raping uncapables... because some of us, MANY of us DON'T. I have a positive win/loss record (though you can't see it because my stats haven't updated on this web site in a year due to the SF glitch) and I never do that.
The only time I hit uncapables is as special ops, and occasionally I'll lay in the weeds with an M95 and spray chopper pilots (like you) all over the inside of their cockpit before they can take off, though not very often anymore because wonder commanders who see and know all pretty much ruin snipers in this game.
its a cheap tactic. yeah, everyone has had someone spawn in front of them, and its kill or be killed for sure, but thats different from raping bases. big time.
also, I think its quite hilarious that you refer to yourself as a grand master player (whatever the hell that means) and claim that its "less talented" players who complain. I've found a lot of players who are chopper/plane specialists are TERRIBLE at this game, which is why they are what they are, and is also why they teamkill and cry if they cant get their magic carpet. this isn't true of everyone, but I've come across some Srgt Majors on the ground who were AWEFUL once you took their tank/plane/chopper away from them
I was refering to helicopters only. I know the jets are easily capable of this, should have clarified.
orignal poster - You can't say "we all do it" with regards to raping uncapables... because some of us, MANY of us DON'T. I have a positive win/loss record (though you can't see it because my stats haven't updated on this web site in a year due to the SF glitch) and I never do that.
The only time I hit uncapables is as special ops, and occasionally I'll lay in the weeds with an M95 and spray chopper pilots (like you) all over the inside of their cockpit before they can take off, though not very often anymore because wonder commanders who see and know all pretty much ruin snipers in this game.
its a cheap tactic. yeah, everyone has had someone spawn in front of them, and its kill or be killed for sure, but thats different from raping bases. big time.
also, I think its quite hilarious that you refer to yourself as a grand master player (whatever the hell that means) and claim that its "less talented" players who complain. I've found a lot of players who are chopper/plane specialists are TERRIBLE at this game, which is why they are what they are, and is also why they teamkill and cry if they cant get their magic carpet. this isn't true of everyone, but I've come across some Srgt Majors on the ground who were AWEFUL once you took their tank/plane/chopper away from them
Last edited by dshak (2005-12-01 14:22:15)
I've never heard about the pilots who can respawn after 15 minutes. So, dont make this stupid war, which I hate, equal to BF2. Because in real life AA can take down planes much more often and faster than planes can.
Last edited by Dr.Battlefield (2005-12-01 14:46:14)
some of these punishers need there fingers broken. I was flying doing bombing runs on enemy bases right, so after a resupply the commander orders me to attack the uncapturable base, so I head over my bomb sites are going crazy with enemy targets I drop my bombs and score at least 9 enemy kills with 1 tk this fag punishes me.
The AA either ground or from another aircraft need serious retooling in this game I had an enemy 50 yards in front of me locked on I fired 2 at him, this guy didnt make a single evasive move to get away from them, the first one hit him but the second did this funky ass 90 degree turn about 20 yards out and slams into a friendly, he didnt explode but WTF it up with this stupid ass game ??
The AA either ground or from another aircraft need serious retooling in this game I had an enemy 50 yards in front of me locked on I fired 2 at him, this guy didnt make a single evasive move to get away from them, the first one hit him but the second did this funky ass 90 degree turn about 20 yards out and slams into a friendly, he didnt explode but WTF it up with this stupid ass game ??
Could the real problem be in the fact that your ego is bigger than EA's wallet?
It is amazing the difference in opinions in this game... WOW!
1. I always read the rules of servers and abide 100%
2. I never sit there and camp spawn points... I ALWAYS wait till helos are airborne before blasting them
And to those who attack my charactor and my game skills along with game style? Save it for your own self. I dont play to impress anyone but myself.
Oh and BTW.. the Saddam and Bush story was a joke... CMON guys.. loosen up your thongs a little. I do attempt to be funny some of the time.
1. I always read the rules of servers and abide 100%
2. I never sit there and camp spawn points... I ALWAYS wait till helos are airborne before blasting them
And to those who attack my charactor and my game skills along with game style? Save it for your own self. I dont play to impress anyone but myself.
Oh and BTW.. the Saddam and Bush story was a joke... CMON guys.. loosen up your thongs a little. I do attempt to be funny some of the time.
yeah, don't get your undies in a bundle over this
okok pz. but AA is still crappy anyway.
This may be the most perfect post ever.Beatdown Patrol wrote:
dewd. You lost my sympathy right here. We ALL know that Helos and Jets are overpowered and almost unstoppable in the hands of decent pilots. It is a game balance issue and everyone admits it. Now...for some to take advantage of that is expected because by nature, people want to take the path of least resistance. "Getting something for nothing" has and always will draw those that are materialistic. This insinuates that these people must play this game for the points, but I am a skeptic of that theory because shooting fish in a barrel usually becomes boring after the 3rd or 4th time. The other theory is that these people like the sadistic feeling of power over the defenseless. You know the type...wife beaters, bullies, thugs who kick the crap out of 10-year olds for his PSP or XBOX 360. I am not saying you are one of those types...but with 202 hrs in Helos and 15,858 kills vs 3,990 deaths, it has the appearance that you are.'[TvC wrote:
All I do is rape with Helos and Jets.
You might just be that good of a pilot, but please don't think that those who have to play against you are going to like it or accept the gratuitous exploitation of a known balance issue. The bottom line is that people play this game to have FUN while having SOME sense that they have a fair shot at winning the game. Getting pasted every 10 to 15 seconds by hovering HeloCAMPERs and tag-team bombarded at the uncappables by jet pilots is simply not fun for anybody but the sadistic bastards piloting the craft who only die when somebody on their own team TKs them for the vehicle. …and don’t get me wrong. I hate playing WITH pilots like that on my team as well as against them because it literally takes all of the challenge and gratification of winning the game from me and my team. I don't mind loosing as long as I felt I had a fair chance of winning and I hate winning when it feels like I was clubbing baby seals. If I were a server admin, I would boot you for the better enjoyment of everyone on the server...even those on your own team.
My suggestion? Go to the EA servers where you can farm until you grow "apples".
- Beatdown
Hahaha, that's cute. And, I imagine, complete BS. For someone who's been kicked and banned as often as yourself, I imagine that you've done both, many many times, except on those occasions, you've justified it by saying you didn't have anything else to shoot at the time.[TvC]Unbe@table wrote:
2. I never sit there and camp spawn points... I ALWAYS wait till helos are airborne before blasting them
And yet you're quite happy to label yourself some kind of Master BF2 player.[TvC]Unbe@table wrote:
And to those who attack my charactor and my game skills along with game style? Save it for your own self. I dont play to impress anyone but myself.
ASS-master more like.
The fact that your under the impression that an assault rifle is a boom stickSgt.Gh0st wrote:
Whats wrong with being a 15 y/o?
Also agree with that guy who says your a wife beater, but only if you mean that you camp carriers, because face it, no matter how fricken awesome you are, even if you get off the carrier, that's still a long way to swim, as boats give away your position, if by a 1 in 30000000000 chance you get ashore, you have you ninja your way through the 26 players who have no-one to kill, hoping to take a spawn before a jeep shows up to kick your ass, then you have to hope that someone will spawn at the point you just capped, even if you create a squad before this attempt they still wont spawn on you because your on a suicide mission whereas spawning into massive firepower is not suicide.
My point is if you pull off a miracle, your team will be too stupid too appreciate it.
AA should be indestructible and ungodly powerful, to match their targets!
man ive been on a server with this guy and i hate him, i mean hate him. if i see that he's in the game i quit out and find another server due to the fact that we wont be able to get off the carrier , or out the fuckin bases. i hate him and if i saw him in the street i will kick 10 bails of shit out of the base raping , motherfucking , shit eating , arse licking , piss drinking cunt........he's got me mad just thinking off him...
he decides to write a post on here trying to get people to feel sorry for him
well fuck you
he decides to write a post on here trying to get people to feel sorry for him
well fuck you
ClanServers, ranked or unranked have their own rules, if those rules include no baseraping, then you shouldnt be doing it, if you wish to continue playing on that server. EA have no specific ranked server guidelines, if they did servers options would be more limited to admin e.g. maps, timers, ticket bleed etc
Im curious, but how did you intend to improve you 'grandmasters' 'skills' If all the opposition never get a chance to retaliate? The truth is, that if you cant manage to do well in game without baseraping then you arent a grandmaster of anything but bate.
Im curious, but how did you intend to improve you 'grandmasters' 'skills' If all the opposition never get a chance to retaliate? The truth is, that if you cant manage to do well in game without baseraping then you arent a grandmaster of anything but bate.
Last edited by -=|BW|=-Hollow_Moon (2005-12-01 18:28:06)
My suggestion is ... Change that name|TvC|Unbe@table wrote:
Game Name >> "Fear [TvC]Unbe@table"
Any and all suggestions appreciated
Last edited by AlexDiasTeixeira (2005-12-01 18:21:57)
http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=6305[TvC]Unbe@table wrote:
And to those who attack my charactor and my game skills along with game style? Save it for your own self. I dont play to impress anyone but myself.
You brought your own character in to question junior.Well I the best chopper man that I have ever seen. Ive never EVER been man handled while flying a chopper
You post egotistical stuff like that your open for discussion.
Last edited by Gotham (2005-12-01 22:00:01)
don't even intend to read all the following posts...
but let's assume you are as good as you say you are...
and let's overlook your wording on raping people with helo or jet, to not assume that you are base camping or any other thing like that.. (even though it gives a clear impression of that)
but if you are that good, and run around with the premade name, unbeatable, you are going to get fragged for it.... it sooooo much smels of a cheater who knew it when he made his tag...
so therefore i think your solution would be to change your name to something more mainstream and not anything that looks like l33t speak (5p3ak)
but let's assume you are as good as you say you are...
and let's overlook your wording on raping people with helo or jet, to not assume that you are base camping or any other thing like that.. (even though it gives a clear impression of that)
but if you are that good, and run around with the premade name, unbeatable, you are going to get fragged for it.... it sooooo much smels of a cheater who knew it when he made his tag...
so therefore i think your solution would be to change your name to something more mainstream and not anything that looks like l33t speak (5p3ak)
Your supposed to kill people in jets/helos. So I say, kill on! Everyone else, stop crying and spawn as AT or somewhere else.
Now when did I said that?kR4MR wrote:
The fact that your under the impression that an assault rifle is a boom stick.Sgt.Gh0st wrote:
Whats wrong with being a 15 y/o?
My impression of a "boom-stick" clearly is either a sawed-off shotgun or a Pump-Action shotgun.
Spoken like a true HeloCAMPER pilot.Boomer1120 wrote:
Your supposed to kill people in jets/helos. So I say, kill on! Everyone else, stop crying and spawn as AT or somewhere else.
You have no credibility for the following reasons:
1) You are a HeloCAMPER with over 50% of your playing time in a Helo with 3380 kills vs. 737 Deaths. Is it any wonder that you are going to agree?
2) You only play Sharqi Penisula where there are only two AA batteries in horrible locations and no AA vehicles or jets. There is no credible threats against you except the Helo pilot on the other team. However, that really isn't a threat either because both you and the enemy Helo pilot are more concerned with racking up points on infantry than swatting each other out of the sky.
3) You have all your basic badges except for Command, but your KIT accuracy and kill ratios don't match the achievement. This basically insinuates that you got all your combat badges via using different kits while you HeloCAMP'ed spawn points.
and finally ::drum roll::
4) You have spent a whole 24 mins using an AT Kit. 24 MINS?!? In 74 hours of play?!? ::holding my belly while laughing:: In that 24 mins, you killed 4 things and died 12 times. In effect, you have no clue about using the AT kit or its effectiveness, so giving everyone else advice on how to shoot you down is in effect like a cat telling a mouse where he can get free cheese.
- Beatdown
Last edited by Beatdown Patrol (2005-12-02 11:17:50)
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