Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6825|SE London

Fancy_Pollux wrote:

Ikarti wrote:

Oh yes, liberation. Exactly! Not because Saddam did 9/11, or WMDs, LIBERATION! WHO LOVES LIBERTY? I DO!

Speaking of ignorance...
So you're saying we should've left Saddam in power?

And Saddam did have WMDs, but according to many sources they moved them out of Iraq to Syria on the eve of the war. Additionally, Saddam has used WMDs in the past.
Yes, you should have left him in power.

Of course he used to have WMDs, the US sold them to him - Rumsfeld in fact.
DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
+796|6928|United States of America
Where does the "evil" part come from? I've seen him labelled as incompetent but not evil evil.
The_Shipbuilder
Stay the corpse
+261|6744|Los Angeles

Fancy_Pollux wrote:

cpt.fass1 wrote:

There's a book just remember if someone took the time to put words on paper it must be true....
True or not, it still holds more merit than most of the half-assed assertions made in this thread. Saddam's General releases information on the inner workings of his regime, yet some teenager on a forum says it's a load of bullshit without anything more than that to back it up. Who has more credibility here?
Hang on a second.  Which source shows Saddam's general revealing information on the inner workings on his regime?

The World Net Daily (red flag #1) article is about an former general who defected from Iraq fifteen years ago (red flag #2), who gave an interview to WorldThreats.com (red flag #3). The article says that the former general "believes (red flag #4) weapons of mass destruction are hidden in Syria."

That's not a valid source for me.

That said, Georges Sada does seems credible. I can't believe him unequivocally, because it's still a leap of faith. But I can't figure out the administration's chess game here.

I will not pretend to know anything about Syria and its role in middle-eastern politics. Those of you who are well-versed in this sort of thing, what are your thoughts: if the administration believes the WMD have moved to Syria, why aren't they eager to go in there with guns blazing like they did in Iraq? I'd be interested to hear from both conservatives and liberals, if you can muster a few lines in response.
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|6950|67.222.138.85

Ikarti wrote:

Fancy_Pollux wrote:

Well, in all fairness, Bush did liberate the people of a country oppressed by a dictatorship. Most of the people who voted on the poll are too ignorant to make an educated decision on the matter.
Oh yes, liberation. Exactly! Not because Saddam did 9/11, or WMDs, LIBERATION! WHO LOVES LIBERTY? I DO!

Speaking of ignorance...
Now see if you knew why we really went to Iraq, you wouldn't have made such a statement.
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6918|Canberra, AUS

Fancy_Pollux wrote:

Spark wrote:

So my question is: WHY AREN'T YOU BOMBING THE SHIT OUTTA SYRIA?!

As I see it, there are three possible scenarios.

1. They're in Syria. But no one cares. Or no one is man enough to find them. And the weapons inspectors were complete tools, too.
2. They're in Iraq. But no one has the brains to find them (unlikely scenario here. serious!)
3. The whole WMD thing is a whole load of bullshit.
So, what led you to these scenarios? You've narrowed it down to conclusions such as "no one is man enough to find them" or "no one has the brains to find them"? Here I am actually backing up my assertions with some form of proof, yet this is the best you can do? You know Saddam has used chemical weapons in the past. So, what makes you think the whole "WMD thing is a whole load of bullshit"? Could it be that you're a whopping 14 years old and simply have a higher level of education than the person you're attempting to debate with? I think so.

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=24607&p=2

Spark wrote:

Interesting poll - I didn't know you could be under 18 and over 60 at the same time

14 years and, uh... 4 months.
So what OTHER options are there then? Please enlighten me - everything you've said boils down to three possible things: the weapons are in syria, in iraq, or in some guy's imagination.

What makes me think there are no WMD's here? The fact that the Bush admin. has publicly ACKNOWLEDGED that they won't find WMDs. And they aren't hardballing after Syria (but I have a feeling that may be due o the backlash from the Iraq debacle - they seem to be very restrained right now.)

What has led me to these scenarios? The evidence you posted. It says the WMD's are in syria (or some other country) - and of course I take that with a grain of salt. If they're NOT in syria, then they're in Iraq. And what does that say about the coalition force of many thousands' ability to find the weapons (but I still don't think this is plausible). If they're not in Iraq, and they're not in some other country, then they simply don't exist!
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman

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