Poll

Was the new plane Hi-Jack plot bullshit from GWB administration

Yes26%26% - 24
No73%73% - 68
Total: 92
OpsChief
Member
+101|6919|Southern California

[TUF]Catbox wrote:

fail...  the poster is a moron...  theres no terrorist threat... lmfao...  its all a conspiracy... everyone is in on it
but you... pfffft
lol thats what you think...
ssj3barua
Member
+55|6932|Indianapolis, IN, U.S.
Fat guy, you're a fucking IDIOT!
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|6933|Tampa Bay Florida
Ya this kind of thread is why people don't like radical liberals.... and why I can understand why they don't...
BigmacK
Back from the Dead.
+628|6993|Chicago.
Welcome to the club, Spearhead.
Miller
IT'S MILLER TIME!
+271|6998|United States of America
I Love You All!!!!! <3
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|6933|Tampa Bay Florida

BigmacK192 wrote:

Welcome to the club, Spearhead.
ya but notice I said radical on purpose.... I'm a lib but this kinda stuff is just crap.. at least IMO
Flecco
iPod is broken.
+1,048|6908|NT, like Mick Dundee

If they wanted to scare people they would have let it happen wouldn't they?
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
BigmacK
Back from the Dead.
+628|6993|Chicago.
Well, I respect you Spearhead. I have alot of friends who are liberals, but who see other sides to argments and hate left-facing-radicals almost as much as I do.
Ikarti
Banned - for ever.
+231|6952|Wilmington, DE, US
9-11 was just a big misunderstanding. The hijackers were really just pioneers of the new extreme passenger jet stunt flying sport and had an unfortunate error while trying to fly between the towers.
GotMex?
$623,493,674,868,715.98 in Debt
+193|7005

I have a serious question for all of you here which I've been struggling to understand.

How powerful of a bomb can you make with a "British sports drink" and a "gel-like substance" mixed aboard a plane. I mean, obviously the sports drink would clear security without a hitch, and I don't think it has too many explosive properties, but this so called "gel-like substance" HAS to have some kick to it in order to be able to cause some real damage to a plane. Given this fact, I feel rather uneasy thinking that airport security wouldn't be able to detect this substance as a possible bomb agent before finding out about this plot. Have we been focusing too much on the goddamn nailclippers and sharp objects that we have forgetten the real threat of BOMBS?

Did terrorists really find a way to make a completelly concealable bomb? Don't you think we would've known this method by now? Is this "gel" (I really wish they were more specific) really that concealable and inert, and somehow magically becomes deadly when mixed with other agents? Or better yet, what the hell are the brits putting into their sports drinks???

Something doesn't add up for me. I don't doubt that there are terrorists plots here and there, but I think this one is being exaggerated and is being used for political purposes.

On a side note, check out some really cool explosive mixes at http://www.dietcokementoschallenge.com/. Maybe this was what they heard terrorists talking about and decided to act on it. I've read that the "magic" ingredient in mentos (called Gum Arabic) which causes the soda to decarbonate is made by some people linked by Osama Bin Laden (Wikipedia it)... hmm, makes you wonder.
HaywoodJablowme
Baltimore Blowfish
+46|6823

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

Fat guy in speedos wrote:

Haven't anyone noticed lately that they try to get people scared with such news as Path train tunnel plot unfoiled,
mass murder Plane hi-jack unfolded. I sense that it was planted in a way.
why the fuck would the US government want to destroy their own country... its just retarded how 911 is planned...
Wow, read the PNAC's layout for the continued dominance of American power.  And if anybody replies, make sure you use the spell check please..  When you misspell words, it just detracts from your obviously intelligent arguments....
mcminty
Moderating your content for the Australian Govt.
+879|6964|Sydney, Australia

Fat guy in speedos wrote:

Haven't anyone noticed lately that they try to get people scared with such news as Path train tunnel plot unfoiled,
mass murder Plane hi-jack unfolded. I sense that it was planted in a way.
If you were the representative for humanity, I would move for a vote of no confidence.



Mcminty.
TrollmeaT
Aspiring Objectivist
+492|6915|Colorado
It could have been but why, drum up more support for the war? they are allready in it.
I was more suspicious of the WTC movie coming out to get support.
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6917|Canberra, AUS
You do realise what effect this kind of thing has on a nation's economy, yes?

Last edited by Spark (2006-08-12 00:07:03)

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
HaywoodJablowme
Baltimore Blowfish
+46|6823

TrollmeaT wrote:

It could have been but why, drum up more support for the war? they are allready in it.
I was more suspicious of the WTC movie coming out to get support.
That's just the hollywood leeches making a buck out of the whole thing.  I bet you a hundred to one they don't say a god damn thing about building 7 going down or Silverstein the owner saying "we had to "pull it", after so much loss of life the best thing was to "pull it"....
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6917|Canberra, AUS

GotMex? wrote:

I have a serious question for all of you here which I've been struggling to understand.

How powerful of a bomb can you make with a "British sports drink" and a "gel-like substance" mixed aboard a plane. I mean, obviously the sports drink would clear security without a hitch, and I don't think it has too many explosive properties, but this so called "gel-like substance" HAS to have some kick to it in order to be able to cause some real damage to a plane. Given this fact, I feel rather uneasy thinking that airport security wouldn't be able to detect this substance as a possible bomb agent before finding out about this plot. Have we been focusing too much on the goddamn nailclippers and sharp objects that we have forgetten the real threat of BOMBS?

Did terrorists really find a way to make a completelly concealable bomb? Don't you think we would've known this method by now? Is this "gel" (I really wish they were more specific) really that concealable and inert, and somehow magically becomes deadly when mixed with other agents? Or better yet, what the hell are the brits putting into their sports drinks???

Something doesn't add up for me. I don't doubt that there are terrorists plots here and there, but I think this one is being exaggerated and is being used for political purposes.

On a side note, check out some really cool explosive mixes at http://www.dietcokementoschallenge.com/. Maybe this was what they heard terrorists talking about and decided to act on it. I've read that the "magic" ingredient in mentos (called Gum Arabic) which causes the soda to decarbonate is made by some people linked by Osama Bin Laden (Wikipedia it)... hmm, makes you wonder.
Obviously you haven't heard of Operation Bojinka. It almost worked - it DID work, actually, when a small, easily concealed bomb killed one person during a flight. Lucky the terrorist put his bomb in the wrong seat or the plane would have been obliterated by exploding fuel tanks.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6917|Canberra, AUS

OpsChief wrote:

Fat guy in speedos wrote:

Haven't anyone noticed lately that they try to get people scared with such news as Path train tunnel plot unfoiled,
mass murder Plane hi-jack unfolded. I sense that it was planted in a way.
is your real name michael moore?  j/k

They have been catching people for decades on various plots, some get through. Is it within the realm of possibility that the administration hatched this as a way to shape our future government?  lol
I wonder if you know that Michael Moore doesn't subscribe to conspiracy theories.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
KungfuBeer
The King of Beers
+31|6973|SoCal
I'm not happy that you who think the gov't is involved in "tricking" the world are voters.

People who were caught, people who will be caught, people who want to kill anyone that is not like them, want to kill people whom you know and love.

If they were to kill a family member of yours, would you still think that it is the US and England's fault that your family member was killed by a extremist?  If you answer Yes, then you are either lying, or just a moron.

Those people want to kill us just because they follow a false GOD.  If you have any intelligence, you would realize that nobody should be killing others because they don't follow a certain way, but you would want to educate them in the truth.

What the hell do they do?  They blow up people however they can, so that they can enjoy a promise that nobody knows if its truth or not.   Looks to me as a selfish motivation and not a hardcore follower of any religion.

Last edited by KungfuBeer (2006-08-12 00:15:36)

HaywoodJablowme
Baltimore Blowfish
+46|6823

KungfuBeer wrote:

I'm not happy that you who think the gov't is involved in "tricking" the world are voters.

People who were caught, people who will be caught, people who want to kill anyone that is not like them, want to kill people whom you know and love.

If they were to kill a family member of yours, would you still think that it is the US and England's fault that your family member was killed by a extremist?  If you answer Yes, then you are either lying, or just a moron.

Those people want to kill us just because they follow a false GOD.  If you have any intelligence, you would realize that nobody should be killing others because they don't follow a certain way, but you would want to educate them in the truth.

What the hell do they do?  They blow up people however they can, so that they can enjoy a promise that nobody knows if its truth or not.   Looks to me as a selfish motivation and not a hardcore follower of any religion.
Well played..
DrunkFace
Germans did 911
+427|6924|Disaster Free Zone
Yeah probably was BS, so we shouldn't bother with intelligence on terrorists, I just hope the plane they blow up is full of retards like you.

Last edited by DrunkFace (2006-08-12 08:55:28)

stryyker
bad touch
+1,682|6963|California

everyone meet Dylan Avery, the worlds biggest conspiracy douche
mcminty
Moderating your content for the Australian Govt.
+879|6964|Sydney, Australia

Spark wrote:

You do realise what effect this kind of thing has on a nation's economy, yes?
For those that need more help...


The global tourism industry is one of the largest industries in the world. In many developing nations tourism is the primary industry, sometimes accounting for up to 90% of jobs.


Looking at the recent events in a global perspective. If the new security measures continue then most duty free shops will end up closing. As a result the Airports will increase fees to the airlines and the customer. The airlines will pass the fees onto the customers, thus hitting them with a double price increase.

As well as those measures, rising fuel costs will mean increased fuel levy's for customers, again increasing the prices.

If these increases reach a certain point,  fewer people will choose to travel.


Once there are fewer people traveling, then the rest of the tourism industry will begin to suffer. Tour operators, street vendors and merchants, hotels and restaurants will feel the sting. In order to cut costs, they will be forced to either raise prices or lay off staff. They will lay off staff.


Now there will be a situation in some developing countries of massive unemployment. This will lead to higher social tension and devision between the rich and poor. Crime will increase as the countries economy grinds to a halt.




But lets hope it doesn't come to that...

Mcminty.
KungfuBeer
The King of Beers
+31|6973|SoCal

Spark wrote:

I wonder if you know that Michael Moore doesn't subscribe to conspiracy theories.
Who cares?  He's is not a citizen of the US, but is here to criticize our government to make money.  That's all he cares about!
Ikarti
Banned - for ever.
+231|6952|Wilmington, DE, US

KungfuBeer wrote:

Spark wrote:

I wonder if you know that Michael Moore doesn't subscribe to conspiracy theories.
Who cares?  He's is not a citizen of the US, but is here to criticize our government to make money.  That's all he cares about!
Last time I checked...he actually WAS a US citizen.

Also who the hell doesn't do things for money? Dick Cheney does bad things for money, so does Bush. I agree that Moore is slightly more than a bit of a dipshit, but look around, man.

Last edited by Ikarti (2006-08-12 00:42:38)

Skruples
Mod Incarnate
+234|6943

siciliano732 wrote:

your an idiot....
If ever there was a more ironic statement...

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