BF2S Forums Oh Come On (Seriously Its war)

SealXo wrote:

Come on your all bitching about cutting off lebanons supplies? When they PROVOKED the war and started it.

(Dont say hezbollah isnt lebanon , its part of their gov like the KGB)

What do you think would have heppened if we didnt bomb the Axis's supply lines in world war 2? Hmm? I sure as hell know. We would have lost teh Goddamn war.

I say I LOVE JEWS because THEY are doing what AMERICAS not. We are GIVING Al Queda Supplies (We buy the oil which is the money funded ot them). So i say. BRAVO Israel for using the correct strategy.

So the point is. It's fukin' war son. Get over it,  It's strategy

They need to do whatever is nessessary, to unarm hezbollah so they don't get anihaliated. It's that simple they are playing ball.

We bombed Japan, but its what we needed to do. I say hell its better THEM than US

They are fucking bombing innocent people! If that is not fucked i don't know what is!
Bombing supply lines to stop one of the biggest Quest of domination since the Roman empire, is not the same as trying to kill Hezbollah militants, and as a negative externality of this senseless conflict;  thousands of innocent people our losing their lives. Billions of dollars in damage has already happened, and their goal of weakening Hezbollah is not working. I have friends that have close family in Lebanon, and they have lived their since the Armenian Genocide, when the Turkish murdered millions of Armenians.  Hezbollah does have officials in the Lebanon’s Government, but that does not justify killing innocent people! By no means is this using the correct strategy of war.

First off the leader of al Qaeda Osama bin laden, received around 400 million dollars from his father, with the requirement that he leaves Saudi Arabia and never returns. IF he did he would be executed, by no other than his own father. I know this because my Uncle spent ten years in Saudi working construction.  He learned of this when he was there. So at one time 30 years ago The USA and many other countries funded the modern day AL Qaeda.

The only point i will agree with you on, that war is war! BUT they are dead wrong and should face the major consequences when this conflict is over, they definitely need to pay for the rebuild of Lebanon!

The Japan defense: Japan had planed and executed a great plan to attack the USA because the wanted to cripple our navy for a fill scale invasion and cease the supplies that the eminent threat of an embargo. That attack and we doing the only thing we could to stop their attack on America this is nothing to be proud of, nor is something too use as an example of how Israel is killing many types of people. This War between Hezbollah and Israel was started by a fucking RPG crossing the damn border of Israel, and is by no means the same as a full scale attack on America By Japan without declaring war. Also they decided to attack at the height of World War II.

Israel is right in the quest to kill off the Hezbollah, but their actions are fucking wrong, wrong, wrong!!!

Last edited by xGBlitzkrieg (2006-08-08 01:32:06)

CyrusTheVirus wrote:

stryyker wrote:

Communism is an ideology that seeks to establish a future classless, stateless social organization based upon common ownership of the means of production and the absence of private property. It can be classified as a branch of the broader socialist movement. Communism also refers to a variety of political movements which claim the establishment of such a social organization as their ultimate goal.

Liberalism is an ideology, philosophical view, and political tradition which holds that liberty is the primary political value.[1] Liberalism has its roots in the Western Enlightenment, but the term now encompasses a diversity of political thought.

Broadly speaking, contemporary liberalism emphasizes individual rights as opposed to group rights. It seeks a society characterized by freedom of thought for individuals, limitations on power, especially of government and religion, the rule of law, free public education, and progressive taxation, the free exchange of ideas, a market economy that supports relatively free private enterprise, and a transparent system of government in which the rights of all citizens are protected. [2] In modern society, liberals favor a liberal democracy with open and fair elections, where all citizens have equal rights by law and an equal opportunity to succeed[3].

wikipedia.

They may be the definitions in theory but in practice most/all liberals are more or less communists.

i hate to do this, but you are a FUCKING RETARD

lets say i am a liberal, that doesnt mean that i dont want any private property, and that i want the industries of my nation controlled by the government.

[JiF]Timmay! wrote:

SealXo wrote:

I say I LOVE JEWS because THEY are doing what AMERICAS not.

Couldn't care less about Jews. Or Christians. Or Muslims, Hindu, Shinto, Hari Christna, black, brown, white or plaid.

One side in this bullshit at least makes some effort not to hit civilians. One side targets civilians and has done so for years and years. End of story, IMO.

Go on, which side actually makes an effort NOT to hit civilians?  Is it Hezbollah... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle … 184428.stm or is it Israel... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle … 242732.stm

IMO they are as bad as each other.  Fuck 'em both.

[JiF]Timmay! wrote:

Canin wrote:

SealXo wrote:

Its not the united states perfect little democracy dude its rouge

I assume you meant rough

I think he meant rogue.

I thought he meant lipstick.

aardfrith wrote:

[JiF]Timmay! wrote:

SealXo wrote:

I say I LOVE JEWS because THEY are doing what AMERICAS not.

Couldn't care less about Jews. Or Christians. Or Muslims, Hindu, Shinto, Hari Christna, black, brown, white or plaid.

One side in this bullshit at least makes some effort not to hit civilians. One side targets civilians and has done so for years and years. End of story, IMO.

Go on, which side actually makes an effort NOT to hit civilians?  Is it Hezbollah... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle … 184428.stm or is it Israel... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle … 242732.stm

IMO they are as bad as each other.  Fuck 'em both.

I see a tiny difference here. As in Israel, if it tried to, COULD attack Hezbollah without hurting civilians. While Hezbollah CAN'T. It's a lot easier to hit something accurately when you can SEE the thing and you have a 'precision-guided' bomb. It's a lot harder to hit something accurately when you're firing a rocket into the sky somewhere and hoping to hit something 50, 60km away.

Israel has my full support. I value their support and will support them on whichever way they choose to fight the demons at their doorstep. If you want to make an omelette - you gotta break some eggs. Go get em Israel.

CyrusTheVirus wrote:

stryyker wrote:

CyrusTheVirus wrote:

They may be the definitions in theory but in practice most/all liberals are more or less communists.

i hate to do this, but you are a FUCKING RETARD

lets say i am a liberal, that doesnt mean that i dont want any private property, and that i want the industries of my nation controlled by the government.

Personal attacks aren't very nice. It sounds like you don't like freedom of speech. You wouldn't be communist by any chance?

Damn. You really are a fucking retard.

That's a very fine way there of dodging his point and trying to make a personal attack of your own.

redhawk454 wrote:

stryyker wrote:

for reference, Japan didnt NEED to be bombed, it was just the battleplan that resulted in the least amount of Allied casualties.

and Hitler didnt need to be removed from power.

Hitler =/= Japan. very very different

kuntpunch_37 wrote:

CyrusTheVirus wrote:

stryyker wrote:

liberalism and communism have nothing in common.

That sounds like a liberal POV.

You're retarded.  What do liberalism and communism have in common?  Would you call China a liberal country?  Granted, China owes a great deal to its Maoist legacy which differed from Marx in several important ways, but you're probably too stupid to even grasp what I'm talking about...

I would now call china a capitalist/comunist country now.... lmfao

Spark wrote:

aardfrith wrote:

[JiF]Timmay! wrote:

Couldn't care less about Jews. Or Christians. Or Muslims, Hindu, Shinto, Hari Christna, black, brown, white or plaid.

One side in this bullshit at least makes some effort not to hit civilians. One side targets civilians and has done so for years and years. End of story, IMO.

Go on, which side actually makes an effort NOT to hit civilians?  Is it Hezbollah... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle … 184428.stm or is it Israel... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle … 242732.stm

IMO they are as bad as each other.  Fuck 'em both.

I see a tiny difference here. As in Israel, if it tried to, COULD attack Hezbollah without hurting civilians. While Hezbollah CAN'T. It's a lot easier to hit something accurately when you can SEE the thing and you have a 'precision-guided' bomb. It's a lot harder to hit something accurately when you're firing a rocket into the sky somewhere and hoping to hit something 50, 60km away.

WHen did isreal get an aim-bot?

redhawk454 wrote:

kuntpunch_37 wrote:

CyrusTheVirus wrote:

That sounds like a liberal POV.

You're retarded.  What do liberalism and communism have in common?  Would you call China a liberal country?  Granted, China owes a great deal to its Maoist legacy which differed from Marx in several important ways, but you're probably too stupid to even grasp what I'm talking about...

I would now call china a capitalist/comunist country now.... lmfao

I would call chine a possible threat to freedom as we know it!
and Israel got an aimbot from the USA

Last edited by xGBlitzkrieg (2006-08-08 02:04:35)

stryyker wrote:

redhawk454 wrote:

stryyker wrote:

Hitler =/= Japan. very very different

different but acurate

hmmn... touche

i guess my point was, it was the bomb or invasion, bomb wasnt the only option

We had many options but becuase of the damage the did to our navy, the bomb just happened to be the best route, without weakening our defenses even more. But still seems majorly wrong!

chittydog wrote:

Also, the rest of you should look to kr@cker as a role model since he understands that the forum is called DEBATE and Serious Talk, not ARGUE/HATE and Serious Talk.

Hah yeah, the guy who thinks all Muslims are like the KKK.

Role model for the naive.

stryyker wrote:

CyrusTheVirus wrote:

Spark wrote:

Damn. You really are a fucking retard.

That's a very fine way there of dodging his point and trying to make a personal attack of your own.

If we soften our stance in repsonse to any of these liberal viewpoints chipping away at our value system we'll be on the slippery slope to communism before we know it. It's time to stop the rot.

i will blow everyone in your family if American democracy ever gives way to communism.

Well you'd better pucker up if this lib-crusade continues unabated.