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Dont you guys just love it when you´re the gunner and the pilot is going for a flag, you see the the enemy chopper coming at you, you try to spot him but no reaction, then the kaboom..you ask him WHY?? No answer and the same thingy over again... After that i like to put a bullet in his head for being a blind fuck!!!!Irish.r3 wrote:
Ok I have finally had enough of this, I will put this as simply as I can. Attack helicopters are not meant to capture ****ing flags. I just love the pilots who fly past the 3 tanks and choppers attacking us to cap a flag.
I swear to god some of you have the situational awareness of a retard. Is it that you see them but dont care? Or your afraid to attack? Cmon give me an answer. While capping flags is good, it was never meant to be done by attack helicopters with tv guided missles and rocket pods and a chain gun. You wanna cap flags, grab a ****ing buggy or jeep and have fun, but dont waste a beast of a killing machine capping flags.
Another thing I want to comment on is the refusal or inability to set a gunner up for a shot. When I finally get a pilot that trys to set me up for a shot typically he has no idea how high to tilt the nose. Some pilots are so bad at it, my tv missle screen is looking up at the sky, then we die and he asks why i didnt shoot....and blames me for our death.
Another thing dont ****ing hover, for gods sake dont hover. I cant stress this enough, especially if theres a decent chopper crew on the other team, hovering is just asking for a tv missle to be stuck up ur ***. Slide, barrel roll w/e...just dont hover when fighting another chopper or when in range or height of an enemy tank.
Last but certainly not least, situational awareness. Ok i'll note 3 things a chopper pilot can do to increASe there situational awareness....A) Set your mini map to the largest view by pressing N. This way when i spot tanks, chopper etc... out, you can see them. B)Dont fly low, you cant see much and your flares are very ineffective. C) Please read the in-game chat, when I spot objects out, head towards them, i'm not spotting em out for kicks and giggles, attack them!
And the other thing about the missile jamming... I HATE IT SO MUCH!!!!!!!
It allways happens in a dogfight, and it seems to happen more often if you are switching between guns/missile view rapidly!!!
You know what's worse than the missile not firing? When it fires but doesn't give you the TV view. That's the worst. You lose a missile and have to deal with the reload time.
So true. If this was intentional instead of a bug, they should give you a BSoD instead...cablecopulate wrote:
You know what's worse than the missile not firing? When it fires but doesn't give you the TV view. That's the worst. You lose a missile and have to deal with the reload time.
For all the pilots who don't know HOW to line up gunners with TV:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/ … forces.jpg
(Found on TotalBF2)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/ … forces.jpg
(Found on TotalBF2)
ehm thats only the MEC chopper, the cobra's TV view is between gunners view and croshair.maestrium wrote:
For all the pilots who don't know HOW to line up gunners with TV:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/ … forces.jpg
(Found on TotalBF2)
its hard to find a good pilot or gunner, im lucky i found a few, generalgun is a great gunner, and xxsonyboyxx wich i fly now and then is a awesome pilot, for me i can do both, i can fly and gun and with a very good pilot i hit almost everything.
the things i hate most are
gunners who get lined up and start shooting with minigun at armor and choppers. even worse when u are reloading behind an AA and he dident saw u yet. ending in a big mess.
gunners who bail out when u are about to get shot then start shouting from other side of map "HEY I NEED A RIDE"
gunners who jump out while u are stil clearing the area, then u see enemy and u wait for the gunner to shoot......but he aint there.... deadly on AA's
gunners who mis even the easiest shots..... but at least he tried do it the right way i then think.
pilots who fly of and jump right in the action flying on 5 feet.
pilots who start shouting bail out!! when u jump in, then say i can fly solo!
pilots who ignore the gunners warnings, go go go, go go go, go go go boom
pilots who fly straight in the same stinger or AA everytime.....
2 or 3 of these moments makes me go out and smoke a cig....
Oh hell no!!! Dont listen to this guy, this is PRECISLEY what the crappy pilots are trying to do!!!!!!maestrium wrote:
For all the pilots who don't know HOW to line up gunners with TV:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/ … forces.jpg
(Found on TotalBF2)
http://www.secretsofbattlefield.com/heliguide.php That´s the real shit I´m talking about!!!!
I prefer to cap flags with the F35B.... Much more of a challenge than a helo.
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Fact is it takes at LEAST 15 hours of serious chopper piloting before you can do it at all well. Most players don't have that. It's more than just being able to control the damn things, it's mostly knowing how to behave in the damn things.
I'd like to know how its an exploit. In real life the gunner can take control of helicopter and vice versa (i think the second part is true, not 100% sure, someone wikipedia it). As stated on here before, that would suck IRL if the pilot had a hard attack forcing both of you to die in a firey explosion. So how is it an exploit.lWar Pigl wrote:
It's as simple as that. It's an exploit and it's gotta go.
Did you not notice schools out for summer....hence..... Ive given up on flying cant gett either a good gunner/pilot I only fly with maybe 2-4 people who I know and they know and 2 of them are on TS with me. I think in all my time flying a chopper Ive yet to cap a flag. I normally circle the flag supporting the troops below or go to a hot zone take out the tanks/APCs to help the gorund pounders out. Once that flag is capped I move off to clear the nearest flag and wait for the troops to come and provide cover. but it depends on the team.
Thats the SF gunners TV.maestrium wrote:
For all the pilots who don't know HOW to line up gunners with TV:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/ … forces.jpg
(Found on TotalBF2)
Search and Destroy.
I take out all air and ground threats that are a hazard to me, then i go a take a flag, but only if needed.
I take out all air and ground threats that are a hazard to me, then i go a take a flag, but only if needed.
I have a good picture of why not to cap flags, i'll show it later.
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I tend to only fly with a clan member on public servers, if hes not on I'll solo. I don't need an idiot gunning for me who can't use a TV missile let alone blow up a barrell.
If you can find someone specific to fly with all the time, you get used to eachothers methods and becoming a hardcore killing duo.
If you can find someone specific to fly with all the time, you get used to eachothers methods and becoming a hardcore killing duo.
I am usually the guy that camps in the AA guns and frags your rears!!! Every chance I get I plant my butt in those guns and fire away!!
Most helo pilots are idiots anyways. Either they: A) Can't fly worth a damn. B) Fly so badly they can't kill anything. C) Command and fly at the same time. D) Anything else that is utterly stupid.
flag cap = more points, stop/start ticket bleed.
Yes, that's fine at the very start of the round when the enemy hasn't spawned or you actually have enough time to safely cap it, for example on Fushe Pass mountain point.stryyker wrote:
flag cap = more points, stop/start ticket bleed.
Thats what I've learned to do.Ubersturmbannfuhrer wrote:
Oh hell no!!! Dont listen to this guy, this is PRECISLEY what the crappy pilots are trying to do!!!!!!maestrium wrote:
For all the pilots who don't know HOW to line up gunners with TV:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v252/ … forces.jpg
(Found on TotalBF2)
http://www.secretsofbattlefield.com/heliguide.php That´s the real shit I´m talking about!!!!
I put my main crosshairs above the target, so that my gunner can get a good shot.
I'm sometimes not that good at gunning, especially when you get idiot pilots, but I'm a decent one when I get a good one.
Last edited by |SoW|BlackFire (2006-08-07 23:40:06)
dont play wake?
There are times you can cap a flag in a chopper. Dalian plant as US for instance.. it's vital you get the middle CP asap.
I've often flown jets across and ejected just to cap it.
EDIT: Hi rism, see you round a lot lately.. let's squad up sometime for some chopper ownage.
Account name for me is: XRogerMellieX
I've often flown jets across and ejected just to cap it.
EDIT: Hi rism, see you round a lot lately.. let's squad up sometime for some chopper ownage.
Account name for me is: XRogerMellieX
Last edited by XstrangerdangerX (2006-08-08 01:48:41)
typcially the z-10 comes out towards the reactor towers and anything at reactor or south docks will get TV'd. Just kill the z-10 and let the BH do the capping. Then go after the tank and APC and the 2nd chopper at main entrance.XstrangerdangerX wrote:
There are times you can cap a flag in a chopper. Dalian plant as US for instance.. it's vital you get the middle CP asap.
I've often flown jets across and ejected just to cap it.
EDIT: Hi rism, see you round a lot lately.. let's squad up sometime for some chopper ownage.
Account name for me is: XRogerMellieX
Most of the time Z-10 is capping their own secondary chopper flag. It's quite easy to see the other chopper coming in (my draw distance is better than the tv distance) and if the other chopper comes in high out of my view range, it takes them longer to get there giving me enough time to cap and steal the other chopper for myself.Irish.r3 wrote:
typcially the z-10 comes out towards the reactor towers and anything at reactor or south docks will get TV'd. Just kill the z-10 and let the BH do the capping. Then go after the tank and APC and the 2nd chopper at main entrance.XstrangerdangerX wrote:
There are times you can cap a flag in a chopper. Dalian plant as US for instance.. it's vital you get the middle CP asap.
I've often flown jets across and ejected just to cap it.
EDIT: Hi rism, see you round a lot lately.. let's squad up sometime for some chopper ownage.
Account name for me is: XRogerMellieX
Anyway, I know choppers, and I know the times when to and when not to cap.
And for the start-up pilot, great advice was mentioned previously.. don't hover. But let's temper tha again and say, most of the time don't hover. As with any bad habit there are times when it works.. you've just got to have the experience and the spatial awareness to know when to use it.
And rIsm, I repeat my offer. I've got a chopper KDR of 4+.. the only reason it's not higher is I solo a lot and very very rarely do I find a pilot that can keep us in the air long enough to kill everything in sight.
Last edited by XstrangerdangerX (2006-08-09 03:19:57)
I have only just discovered the beauty of the attack chopper while I have been at home 'sick' (ha my ass) and now love it. Over the past 2 days, I have received something like 200 (give or take a bit) kill assists in choppers just by lining up my gunner and letting him/her rip away with the TV missiles. Heck, one round I got 42 teamwork and 1 combat for my final score, and got my gunner 2 golds in a row.
I think I have the TV screen positioning for my gunner about right (just below the missile aim or there abouts as it varies for every chopper.) Look 1/2 way down the page for images of where to aim for TV shots:
http://www.secretsofbattlefield.com/heliguide.php
Read these three guides from Wiki on piloting/gunning for more guidance:
Basic Piloting Guide: http://wiki.bf2s.com/tactical-guides/in … r-piloting
Gunners Guide: http://wiki.bf2s.com/tactical-guides/gu … k-choppers
Advanced Piloting Guide: http://wiki.bf2s.com/tactical-guides/ad … er-tactics
My $2.50
EDIT: Spelling + Guide
I think I have the TV screen positioning for my gunner about right (just below the missile aim or there abouts as it varies for every chopper.) Look 1/2 way down the page for images of where to aim for TV shots:
http://www.secretsofbattlefield.com/heliguide.php
Read these three guides from Wiki on piloting/gunning for more guidance:
Basic Piloting Guide: http://wiki.bf2s.com/tactical-guides/in … r-piloting
Gunners Guide: http://wiki.bf2s.com/tactical-guides/gu … k-choppers
Advanced Piloting Guide: http://wiki.bf2s.com/tactical-guides/ad … er-tactics
My $2.50
EDIT: Spelling + Guide
Last edited by ~Smokey~ (2006-08-09 03:41:25)