BF2S Forums "America kicked Britains ass..."

I'm not American but I didn't know it so I null voted.

But it's still interesting to show that USA is not invincible and that it had bad times too.

If i remember, the usa nearly lost, britain was fighting wars all over the world and where bound to lose somewhere, i would say we kicked the americans ass for a while then we just gotten beat.
I also herd from videos n such when americans say 'we beat you guys before, we can do it again' HA! yeah right your having a laugh.

ELITE-UK wrote:

If i remember, the usa nearly lost, britain was fighting wars all over the world and where bound to lose somewhere, i would say we kicked the americans ass for a while then we just gotten beat.
I also herd from videos n such when americans say 'we beat you guys before, we can do it again' HA! yeah right your having a laugh.

If you mean "kicked our ass" as in "boarded alot of boats and forced the crew into service in the British Navy" then yes, you did. I'm sure if Britain's full resources were dedicated to fighting America then it probably would have won, but there comes a price with being a world power, much like right now. What would happen to America if China decided to attack? We would put up one helluva fight I'm sure and maybe win, but the fact is many of our forces are dedicated elsewhere and would make us initially very vulnerable.

As far as kicking your asses again, past the fact that we're allies, we would probably beat you, in sheer numbers, seeing as the level of technology on both sides is very comprable. It wouldn't be very pretty though.

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Flecco wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Uhhh, yeah, in 1812, in a country with its first major war less than 50 years old, and we still won on whatever conditions.

Not trying to sound arrogant, just putting it all in context.

No, you invaded Canada and promptly were thrown out and then had your capital burned down. Doesn't sound like a decisive victory does it?

Well WWII wasn't a very decisive victory either, but the Allies still won.

Last edited by Flaming_Maniac (2006-08-07 05:55:37)

All propaganda. This is the land of rainbows and chocolate rivers. We don't even let foreigners in any more, unless they do "Cold As Ice" and "Urgent"

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Flecco wrote:

Allies didn't start that war though.

That doesn't matter to my point. I'm saying any victory where your country still works is a victory.

The British accomplished their goals though. I fail to see how they lost. Thier invasion wasn't repelled by the Americans, a treaty was signed for peace.

Flecco wrote:

I've seen so many Americans on this forum bring up the war of independance and they are quite proud of it. With reason I suppose. It also seems that many of you think that the US of A would have won the war without French support and/or if the British weren't already fighting another war at the time. So I just wanted to point out that the British army along with the Canadian militia burned down Washington D.C. This was after an American president thought that invading Canada might be a smart thing to do. Is the War of 1812 taught in the US of A? Is it widely known that the US of A has been invaded before?

The reason it was a smart thing to do is to get the British out of North America.  The plan originally backfired and we lost the White House to fire along with I'm sure allot of Washington D.C.  When it was all said and done with I do think the British left North America.

P.S. The burning of Washington D.C. was retaliation for us Americans burning Toronto which was the Colonial Canadian Capital.  A treaty was signed in Dec. 24, 1814.  On Jan. 8, 1815 Andrew Jackson defeated a huge British attack force in New Orleans while the news of the Ghent peace treaty made its way across the Atlantic.

We were invaded on Dec. 7, 1941 also.

Last edited by JG1567JG (2006-08-07 06:31:37)

alaska was invaded but didn't become a state til 1950 i believe

kr@cker wrote:

alaska was invaded but didn't become a state til 1950 i believe

January 3, 1959--Statehood.   The Japanese did invade the Aleutian Islands in Alaska

Last edited by JG1567JG (2006-08-07 06:49:21)

beat me to it, hawaii wasn't until 1959 as well

I never heard this before.

Wikipedia wrote:

The United States mainland was first shelled by the Axis on February 23, 1942 when the Japanese submarine I-17 attacked the Ellwood oil production facilities at Goleta, near Santa Barbara, California. Although only a catwalk and pumphouse were damaged, I-17 captain Nishino Kozo radioed Tokyo that he had left Santa Barbara in flames. No casualties were reported and the total cost of the damage was estimated at approximately $500.

Attacks on Oregon
In what became the only attack on a mainland American military installation during World War II, a Japanese submarine surfaced near the mouth of the Columbia River, Oregon on the night of June 21-22, 1942, and fired shells toward Fort Stevens. The only damage recorded was to a baseball field's backstop.

Last edited by JG1567JG (2006-08-07 06:54:58)

So it went from the Burning of Washington DC to WWI and WWII....

...how about Korea and Vietnam neither were victories for the USA.

Last edited by Gryphen_au (2006-08-07 06:56:05)

funny how the war being sparked by repeated "violations of sovereignty" on the part of the British and repeated naval victories over the larger and more experienced royal navy are being glossed over, if anything, it was a stalemate, landwise at least for each sides losses there was a comparable victory, if we were so ashamed of our "humbling defeat" then our national anthem wouldn't be a poem written about a battle during the war