Bubbalo wrote:
Also, anyone know where the Gitmo nickname comes from?
For further explanation, the abbreviation is GTMO, thus the pronunciation. But tut! Information like this is easily accessable through the internet.kr@cker wrote:
"club gitmo" is just a sloppy contraction of guantanamo
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I guess you and bubbalo missed this since you never commentedlowing wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060731/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/guantanamo_prisoner_attacks
http://www.sweetness-light.com/archive/ … ack-guards
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14122554/#storyContinued
Here are the "victims" at Gitmo in action.....
yes i should have clarified it's a military/government contraction, the base where i work also doubles as a giant ups service for the military and yes the tag issued gitmo is GTMO, kinda like airport tags, LAX, ATL, etc.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Bubbalo wrote:
Also, anyone know where the Gitmo nickname comes from?For further explanation, the abbreviation is GTMO, thus the pronunciation. But tut! Information like this is easily accessable through the internet.kr@cker wrote:
"club gitmo" is just a sloppy contraction of guantanamo
http://www.hyperhistory.net/apwh/sponso … /guns4.jpg
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WOW! Thats all I have to say. . . .CameronPoe wrote:
Nice way to poo-poo everything the US purports to stand for. Had it occurred to you that some small precentage of those incarcerated might actually be innocent - i.e., they had been mistakenly put away. The Guildford 4 and Birmingham 6 spent 15 years and 16 years respectively behind bars for crimes they never committed (the Guildford and Birmingham IRA bombings in England). These people in gitmo don't have any recourse to clearing their name whatsoever. A shame on you USA. George Washington and Abe Lincoln must be turning in their graves.fadedsteve wrote:
STOP THE SYMPATHETIC bullshit!! Those pricks deserve NONE!!!
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So, you're telling me that if you were taken to a Russian internment camp for blowing you nose too hard, you wouldn't attempt to fight back?lowing wrote:
they are animals bubbalo, I showed you the links
Blowing my nose??..........they got people locked up in Gitmo for blowing their noses???!!!Bubbalo wrote:
So, you're telling me that if you were taken to a Russian internment camp for blowing you nose too hard, you wouldn't attempt to fight back?lowing wrote:
they are animals bubbalo, I showed you the links
LMAO, yup the first thing I would to win my freedom, is throw urine and feces at my guards and try to stab them with lizard tails. But that would in no way would imply that I was crazy or violent. read the articles bubbalo.Bubbalo wrote:
Way to completely miss the point lowing. Fine, let me rephrase:
If you were imprisoned for a crime you did not commit, and there was no way for you to achieve freedom by means other than violence in the near future, would you fight back?
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There are plenty of people in jail bubbalo, and although riots have ocurred I can't remember reading about the behavior that is taking place in Gitmo. just read the damn articles or at least one so you knowwhat it is your are countering.Bubbalo wrote:
Why bother? You criticise them for doing whatever they can to attack their captors when you would do the exact same thing!
So. If you were locked up (I'm assuming you weren't a terrorist), incarcerated WITHOUT TRIAL for years on end - which to me is slack (e.g.' we don't give a shit about who you are and whether you're terroists or not, we just want to make sure everyone else thinks we're doing something'. Only an example, remember.), and told you had no rights whatsoever, how would you feel?fadedsteve wrote:
(bubbalo)He is a sympathizer of anyone or anything that is anti USA in any form. . .
THESE ARE ENEMY COMBATANTS (aka terrorists)
THEY DO NOT, I repeat DO NOT have the same rights as those who fight for an organized army defending their country. . . .
Those miserable pricks can sit there for the rest of their lives for all I care, they are murderers and sadists, and having them behind bars is a good thing!! Gitmo houses the WORST of the worst, these guys DO not deserve any trial other than a military one PERIOD!! Their crimes dont constitute the normal judicial procedures that a normal criminal would get! They didnt rob the fucking candy store down the street, they took an entire nation (afghanistan/Iraq etc) hostage, killed women and children (in the USA and abroad). They deserve military justice, a much more firm and expedient system of justice(more appropriate).
Why do people give these terrorists the benefit of the doubt?? These terrorists sure as hell wouldnt give any of you sympathizers any quarter??
Another thing, those prisoners deamed exceptable for release from Gitmo, HAVE BEEN RELEASED!! The only prisoners at Gitmo are hardened terrorists that would still make war with the USA if they were released tomorrow!!
STOP THE SYMPATHETIC bullshit!! Those pricks deserve NONE!!!
I usually offer concise counter-arguments and so forth in threads such as this and I also pretty much never write or say this as i'm quite a reserved person.lowing wrote:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/08/05/zawahiri.tape/index.html
this is a very short article and won't take up much of your time. THIS is why Gitmo needs to exist.
I hear the US government intends to imprison and torture people at random off the street, making Washington & Lincoln spin in their graves. Thereby solving the worlds energy problems by creating a perpetual energy source.CameronPoe wrote:
A shame on you USA. George Washington and Abe Lincoln must be turning in their graves.
So you believe in your justice system, but you choose who it is available too. You say those imprisoned at GTMO are not good enough for it, they are "irregular" criminals. How very undemocratic. So this is the american freedom your taking to Iraq: a just and democratic system, but we choose who we deem worthy. All others we can lock up for as long as we wish.fadedsteve wrote:
No I am not poo pooing anything, I believe in our justice system for criminals etc.
However I do not support regular courts for irregular criminals like the ones at Gitmo!
Like it makes a difference if there are worst prisons out there, your still locked-up and fed through a bean hole. Isn't the US the champions of justice and freedom? Well, start acting like it. Charge trial them, and send them to the gas chamber if they are guilty. But no one has the right to distribute life sentences around.fadedsteve wrote:
The fucking prison at Gitmo is a fucking 4 star hotel to some of the dungeons that al Qaeda and Hezbollah "extract" information in!!! You think the prisons the captured Israelis are in, are as nice as Gitmo. . .I dont think so, far from it!
I just cant believe people like you. . . . its unreal!!
Nazi.Sgt.Zubie wrote:
These guy's are ruthless killers, I don't feel a bit sorry for them. not one. The place would be a lot fuller if it was up to me. yeah go ahead call me a Nazi.
I'm just tired of people wasting time worrying about these bloodthirsty madmen. Most all of them came from Afgansistan Taliban.
So you don't know how these people were rounded up. If I told you some were arrested in countries not even on the same continent as Afghanistan and Iraq, would you be surprised?lowing wrote:
No proof that has been made aware to us.... These people were not rounded up randomly, I assume some were caught in battle and others had intel gathered on them. Either way, these are people that will not be given a chance to take up arms against the effort again.Bubbalo wrote:
1) So far, the message has only come from Al Qaeda, it could be chest beating.
2) Egypt now has 1000 different ways to break into terrorist cells
3) Those were proven terrorists. The issue with Guantanamo Bay is that there has been no proof forthcoming.
Also, anyone know where the Gitmo nickname comes from?
Fine. I'll forgive it because this is the internet, and few people know how stupid they look when they can't spell.Spark wrote:
Lay off. He probably didn't notice/didn't care that it was misspelt. Everyone knows what he's talking about.
Is it the same "reliable" intelligence that stated Iraq had WMD ready to fire at its neighbours? After that, the "intelligence" services can hardly be arguing their case for Gitmo. Besides, I can imagine the assessment process that went on picking most of these guys up....lowing wrote:
I assume some were caught in battle and others had intel gathered on them.
Any compensation for the people released from Gitmo? None that I'm aware of. Two or more years of their lives lost forever. Crying shame. What's wrong with treating those guys like regular POWs? That base has almost single-handedly destroyed the reputation of the United States of America. I remember not so long ago when everyone used to love the place. It's a pity, a damn pity.fadedsteve wrote:
WOW! Thats all I have to say. . . .CameronPoe wrote:
Nice way to poo-poo everything the US purports to stand for. Had it occurred to you that some small precentage of those incarcerated might actually be innocent - i.e., they had been mistakenly put away. The Guildford 4 and Birmingham 6 spent 15 years and 16 years respectively behind bars for crimes they never committed (the Guildford and Birmingham IRA bombings in England). These people in gitmo don't have any recourse to clearing their name whatsoever. A shame on you USA. George Washington and Abe Lincoln must be turning in their graves.fadedsteve wrote:
STOP THE SYMPATHETIC bullshit!! Those pricks deserve NONE!!!
Thats a shame that those guys had to stay behind bars, people do make mistakes, even the justice system. Did those guys receive compensation at all??
No I am not poo pooing anything, I believe in our justice system for criminals etc.
However I do not support regular courts for irregular criminals like the ones at Gitmo!
They (US military) HAS released those whom they deem are not needed for interrogation anymore! The rest of those prisoners are hardend terrorists my friend, people you WOULD NOT like to meet in a dark ally!
Dont talk about George Washington or Abe Lincoln, and what they may or may not think, you have no clue! The Continental Army tortured British troops just like the British did to us, to find out British troop concentrations and movements in the South!! The Union Army during the Civil War captured thousands of Confederate troops and let them rot in dispicable conditions(in some of the most notorious prisons in our nations short history)!!! Both instances were under GW and Abe Lincolns watch (and they are considered our greatest Americans)!!! So get a history book and end your IRA biased bullshit!
The fucking prison at Gitmo is a fucking 4 star hotel to some of the dungeons that al Qaeda and Hezbollah "extract" information in!!! You think the prisons the captured Israelis are in, are as nice as Gitmo. . .I dont think so, far from it!
I just cant believe people like you. . . . its unreal!!
