This is a fairly balanced article. Read for yourself:PRiMACORD wrote:
Just a simple question. Why the fuck is our hard earned money going to Israel?
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So you'd be happy if less money went to Israel? All countries should get the exact same amount, $X /person? Israel is a island of 6,700,000 surrounded by over 10 times that amount that want to see it wiped off the face of the planet.PRiMACORD[/quote wrote:
Nice info.
Israel has a population of 6.7m
Egypt has a population of 74m
Israel is getting 15x more per person.
Pakistan has a population nearing 160m, not even going to bother with that one...
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Prove 67,000,000 people around Israel want to see all Israelis killed. I suggest you take a poll, or ask each individually. Perhaps video recordings as evidence?Chuckles wrote:
Israel is a island of 6,700,000 surrounded by over 10 times that amount that want to see it wiped off the face of the planet.
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Ok, that might be hyperbole, but let's look at this rationally. Israel is currently fighting with Palestine on one side and Lebanon on the other. Iran (who's leader has repeatedly called for the destruction of Israel) is aiding Hezbollah via Syria.jonsimon wrote:
Prove 67,000,000 people around Israel want to see all Israelis killed. I suggest you take a poll, or ask each individually. Perhaps video recordings as evidence?Chuckles wrote:
Israel is a island of 6,700,000 surrounded by over 10 times that amount that want to see it wiped off the face of the planet.
You can't prove Iran is controlling hezbollah through Syria.Chuckles wrote:
Ok, that might be hyperbole, but let's look at this rationally. Israel is currently fighting with Palestine on one side and Lebanon on the other. Iran (who's leader has repeatedly called for the destruction of Israel) is aiding Hezbollah via Syria.jonsimon wrote:
Prove 67,000,000 people around Israel want to see all Israelis killed. I suggest you take a poll, or ask each individually. Perhaps video recordings as evidence?Chuckles wrote:
Israel is a island of 6,700,000 surrounded by over 10 times that amount that want to see it wiped off the face of the planet.
I can't put an exact number on how many people in the Middle East want to see Israel erased, but I'd wager it's more than want to see it continue to exist.
Couldn't happen muslims want to ERRADICATE isreal and its jewish people. They wouldn't be safe anywhere on the planet. Munich proved that.jonsimon wrote:
Besides, would erasing Israel from the map be such a bad thing? So long as the people living in Israel remain in Israel without harm and remain as free I don't see any problems with disbanding the Israeli government.
Us giving Israel money is directly intfering with power in that region. That is what i am against. I very much doubt Israel would be wiped out if US funds stopped, they are a very technologically competent people so yes, i'm all for letting them go at it on there own.Chuckles wrote:
So you'd be happy if less money went to Israel? All countries should get the exact same amount, $X /person? Israel is a island of 6,700,000 surrounded by over 10 times that amount that want to see it wiped off the face of the planet.PRiMACORD[/quote wrote:
Nice info.
Israel has a population of 6.7m
Egypt has a population of 74m
Israel is getting 15x more per person.
Pakistan has a population nearing 160m, not even going to bother with that one...
What is the nature of your displeasure regarding Israel's foreign aid?
the same reason people who dont have kids have to pay school tax. it makes the world a better place if we dont have complete idiots running around.PRiMACORD wrote:
Just a simple question. Why the fuck is our hard earned money going to Israel?
QFTbakeshow wrote:
Well I think a big part of it is the fact that without Israel, a lot of the Western countries would have about 0% influence in the middle east. Without our aid, Israel would literally cease to exist as a nation. But we can't have that, in case we get in a war over there *cough (Iran) cough*
Search for the thread 'Israeli Heavy-Handedness'.Jammyc_53 wrote:
could some one explain why there are fighting or what ever in the first place, i havnt payed much attention to whats been going on
Zero influence in the middle east without supporting Israel? LOLOLOL ROFLMAObakeshow wrote:
Well I think a big part of it is the fact that without Israel, a lot of the Western countries would have about 0% influence in the middle east. Without our aid, Israel would literally cease to exist as a nation. But we can't have that, in case we get in a war over there *cough (Iran) cough*
is being sarcastic?CameronPoe wrote:
middle east without supporting Israel? LOLOLOL ROFLMAO
I just don't understand... can you please explain?CameronPoe wrote:
Yeah - the amount of heed the arabs pay to our requests is directly proportional to the amount of aid the west gives Israel!!! LOL
Are you opposed to the Iraq war?PRiMACORD wrote:
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Us giving Israel money is directly intfering with power in that region. That is what i am against. I very much doubt Israel would be wiped out if US funds stopped, they are a very technologically competent people so yes, i'm all for letting them go at it on there own.
All those civilians getting limbed to shit in Lebanon don't make me feel to great about where my tax money is going.
Both sentences were sarcastic. Make sense now?bakeshow wrote:
Your post confused me... Just to clarify THIS SENTENCE :is being sarcastic?CameronPoe wrote:
middle east without supporting Israel? LOLOLOL ROFLMAO
And then this one :I just don't understand... can you please explain?CameronPoe wrote:
Yeah - the amount of heed the arabs pay to our requests is directly proportional to the amount of aid the west gives Israel!!! LOL
They did kidnap, but they had a reason for it...but I suppose Hezbollah had a reason as well. Well, by my standards they had a better reason for doing it...reprisials for rapes and murders and what not.Chuckles wrote:
Are you opposed to the Iraq war?PRiMACORD wrote:
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Us giving Israel money is directly intfering with power in that region. That is what i am against. I very much doubt Israel would be wiped out if US funds stopped, they are a very technologically competent people so yes, i'm all for letting them go at it on there own.
All those civilians getting limbed to shit in Lebanon don't make me feel to great about where my tax money is going.
We spend $250,000,000 a day in Iraq, or about 10 days worth of Israel's foreign aid, and there have been tens of thousands more civilians killed there than have been killed in Lebanon. And Lebanon (Hezbollah) started the fight with Israel. Last I checked Iraq never kidnapped any of our soldiers or launched any rockets into our country.
Yes. Thank you, and good to know someone else agrees. +1 for clearing it up.CameronPoe wrote:
Both sentences were sarcastic. Make sense now?
Its great to live in a country were we are free to do what we want with our cash.CameronPoe wrote:
No it's mainly because the country has very powerful and very rich Jewish lobby groups who can make or break aspiring politicians, especially given Jewish media-outlet ownership. The actual population of Jews in the USA is less than 2%. The lobby groups seems to have been building in influence for decades and now actually completely call the shots when it comes to US foreign policy. I mean confidential US defense policies were being passed on to Israeli government officials for Christ's sake.RicardoBlanco wrote:
I think it's because your country has a large Jewish vote; if it's not that, fuck knows...PRiMACORD wrote:
Just a simple question. Why the fuck is our hard earned money going to Israel?
PS Israel get $2.5bn annually from the US (approximately) - more than any other nation (and only 6m people live in Israel!!!)
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Problem is that there's a centuries old internal power struggle between sunni and shia influence in the region - hence the reason they don't bother helping each other out and sometimes even actually fuck each other over. Iran v Saudi Arabia for influence are the two main powers trying to win out.rawls2 wrote:
Its great to live in a country were we are free to do what we want with our cash.CameronPoe wrote:
No it's mainly because the country has very powerful and very rich Jewish lobby groups who can make or break aspiring politicians, especially given Jewish media-outlet ownership. The actual population of Jews in the USA is less than 2%. The lobby groups seems to have been building in influence for decades and now actually completely call the shots when it comes to US foreign policy. I mean confidential US defense policies were being passed on to Israeli government officials for Christ's sake.RicardoBlanco wrote:
I think it's because your country has a large Jewish vote; if it's not that, fuck knows...
PS Israel get $2.5bn annually from the US (approximately) - more than any other nation (and only 6m people live in Israel!!!)
Why doesn't Saudi or Iran give more to there neighbors like Lebanon and all those hurting ME countries. Would they not benefit from pulling some of those countries out of the shit hole. Maybe then the general population can become educated and pick up a book and not a gun.
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