Chuckles
Member
+32|6798

Chuzuki wrote:

@Impaqt:  Shooting out helicopter pilots is fun, I've had my fair share of it too.  The only reason I'm complaining is because EVERYONE uses the M95, and I constantly own them with the SVD.  It's getting too easy to kill snipers, and somehow everyone thinks because it's a bigger calibre it gets better headshots?  I suppose with quantum principles it technically has a better chance to get a headshot if fired in a completely random direction, but tell that to the business end of my SVD.  BTW, my stats are listed.
I'm curious: if it's so easy to "own them with the SVD" what do you care if people use the M-95?  You should be on here talking it up and telling people that anyone that doesn't use it is a moron.  Why on earth do you care what gun OTHER people use?  You prefer the SVD.  Neat.  Other people prefer the m-95.  That's fine too, they're just as entitled to their opinion as you are. 

I've never seen any statistics on it, but does the M-95 reload slower than the M-24?  If not, then why does the M-24's smaller sights make it better when you figure the M-95 has less bullet drop?

It's all a matter of preference.  And as I said earlier, if it's such a bitch weapon why aren't you encouraging all the other snipers to use it?
Donald O' Brien
Member
+104|6954
Unlocking the L96A1 was what continually pushed me past the 30,000 point gap to Sgt. Major.  I finally got that rank, and I started using my new baby.  Then I found myself going back to the M95, a lot.  It's pretty much all I use these days.  As far as I'm concerned, there is nothing wrong with it.
Chuzuki
Member
+3|6878

Chuckles wrote:

Chuzuki wrote:

@Impaqt:  Shooting out helicopter pilots is fun, I've had my fair share of it too.  The only reason I'm complaining is because EVERYONE uses the M95, and I constantly own them with the SVD.  It's getting too easy to kill snipers, and somehow everyone thinks because it's a bigger calibre it gets better headshots?  I suppose with quantum principles it technically has a better chance to get a headshot if fired in a completely random direction, but tell that to the business end of my SVD.  BTW, my stats are listed.
I'm curious: if it's so easy to "own them with the SVD" what do you care if people use the M-95?  You should be on here talking it up and telling people that anyone that doesn't use it is a moron.  Why on earth do you care what gun OTHER people use?  You prefer the SVD.  Neat.  Other people prefer the m-95.  That's fine too, they're just as entitled to their opinion as you are. 

I've never seen any statistics on it, but does the M-95 reload slower than the M-24?  If not, then why does the M-24's smaller sights make it better when you figure the M-95 has less bullet drop?

It's all a matter of preference.  And as I said earlier, if it's such a bitch weapon why aren't you encouraging all the other snipers to use it?
I like you, you think the way we all should.  Haven't you ever seen the enemy use something over and over but they're horrible with it, and for a while it's funny because you keep killing them for easy points, but after a while it just gets old?  I haven't even played BF2 very long (about 8 months as of today), but I just get so sick of seeing people with the M95.  As much as I like the easy kills, it's just gotten old.  By encouraging them to use it, I'm just making the game even less enjoyable.
I'd also like to point out if I had started a thread about why everyone else should use the M95, I'd still get flamed by people who think it sucks and that they could "own me with the SVD".  It's a lose-lose situation, but I'd at least like to get my opinion out there, supported by evidence.
I don't figure it has less bullet drop.. someone else said that.  I do know the L96A1 and both marksmen's rifles have significant bullet drop, but it's not like it's hard to compensate.

Edit: At least you're civilized, +1

Last edited by Chuzuki (2006-08-01 10:49:59)

tvmissleman
The Cereal Killer
+201|6908| United States of America

spawnofthemist wrote:

M95 = noob ejector.

therefore

M95 = good.
QFE
Widjerd
I like sausage
+18|6791|Bristol UK
When i play SF which im sure you just bought to unlock the guns (*rolleyes* sucker) you either can use the SVD or M95 on mecsf team, i hate that svd so i use the M95 which sometimes translates for normal BF2, although the L96a1 is a very good short to mid range sniper as it just doesnt miss but if baby cant use M95 then baby go play with something else
Chuzuki
Member
+3|6878

Widjerd wrote:

When i play SF which im sure you just bought to unlock the guns (*rolleyes* sucker) you either can use the SVD or M95 on mecsf team, i hate that svd so i use the M95 which sometimes translates for normal BF2, although the L96a1 is a very good short to mid range sniper as it just doesnt miss but if baby cant use M95 then baby go play with something else
Baby can use the M95 just fine, it's just by no means a good rifle.  As far as SF, I had the weapons unlocked before I bought SF.  I have it now because I like most of the maps, especially night ones, and all that extra equipment.
AllmightyOz
Member
+50|6736|United States - Ohio
the m95 is a decent gun. Learn to use it. The L-96 is a beast, but you didnt even talk about that gun. You're a piece of rabbit turd my friend.
Chuzuki
Member
+3|6878

AllmightyOz wrote:

the m95 is a decent gun. Learn to use it. The L-96 is a beast, but you didnt even talk about that gun. You're a piece of rabbit turd my friend.
I'd like to point out the title of the thread "Does anyone else hate the M95?"
Nowhere in there does it mention the L96A1, neither does it say I hate it.  If you'd like me to start another thread about how much I love the L96, just say so.  Also, if you'd read, I've said I can use the M95 just fine.  I never said anywhere that I suck with it, or that I'm tired of getting owned by it.  As far as I'm concerned, it's just there to make the L96 slightly harder to get than the other guns to balance out it's awesomeness.

One question though..why are you friends with rabbit turd?
Stalker-NSDQ
SOUL * REAPER
+24|6805|Germany
Well to add my mustard on this topic, I can say that sometimes I do have problems with the M95. I had certain guys dead center for a head shot, prone position and not too far away. Well guess where my shot went ? It seemed like the round hit an invisible wall, cause it hit nowhere !!!! Also had the issue once in a while with the M24. Don't get me wrong, I would choose the M24 over the M95 anytime, but the L96A1 just rules from above. Ever since this new "SUPER RIFLE" came into the game, the M24 and M95 is barely played from my perspective.

Conclusion: Just play with whatever gun you are comfortable with !
Chuzuki
Member
+3|6878

Stalker-NSDQ wrote:

Well to add my mustard on this topic, I can say that sometimes I do have problems with the M95. I had certain guys dead center for a head shot, prone position and not too far away. Well guess where my shot went ? It seemed like the round hit an invisible wall, cause it hit nowhere !!!! Also had the issue once in a while with the M24. Don't get me wrong, I would choose the M24 over the M95 anytime, but the L96A1 just rules from above. Ever since this new "SUPER RIFLE" came into the game, the M24 and M95 is barely played from my perspective.

Conclusion: Just play with whatever gun you are comfortable with !
On a slightly unrelated subject, stance doesn't matter as a sniper.  I know what you mean though, you're positive the shot will hit somewhere, if not his head, but you get nothing.  I'm glad to see there are actually people out there who see which rifle is better.
Chuzuki
Member
+3|6878

Chuckles wrote:

I was serious when I asked this before.  Is there any difference in the reload times of the M-95, the M-24, or the L96A1?

When I use them I can't say I've ever thought to myself "Damn, this takes longer to reload than ____"

Thanks.
According to BF2S, the M24 and M95 reload magazines in 6 seconds, the L96 reloads in 5.  The draw time on the M95 is shorter than the other two at 1 second instead of 1.6, but the fire rate for all 3 is the same at 1.8 seconds between shots.

If you care to compare that to the marksmen's rifles, they reload in 4 seconds with a 1 second draw time.
Chuckles
Member
+32|6798
I just checked the Wiki, and supposedly it takes 5 seconds to reload the L96A1, and six for the M-24 and M-95.  I my opinion then both the M-24 and M-95 are about even.

M-24 = Smaller cross hairs, quieter, more bullet drop, can't shoot through armored glass.

M-95 = Larger cross hairs, louder, less bullet drop, can shoot through armored glass.

So if you don't have the SF expansion (L96A1) then really it's just a matter of which gun you feel most comfortable with.  Personally I like to make most of my kills from enough distance that the noise of the weapon doesn't really give away my position too much.  And I really don't care too much if I know the guy is looking at the sky for the next 15 seconds anyway.  For whatever reason I'm as comfortable with the m-95 as the m-24.  Occasionally I hide in spots that afford me shots through cockpit or other glass, so I use the M-95.  I also like it because you can seriously damage a jeep type vehicles if you can get a few shots in.  Sometimes I feel like being a little closer to the action, so I'd use the Chinese rifle or maybe the M-24.  But using one gun or the other doesn't make me an inferior player. 

Hell, I'd think one's choice of location is significantly more important for a sniper than his choice of weapon, but maybe that's just me.

Last edited by Chuckles (2006-08-01 13:37:56)

farmerfez
o wut?
+78|6781

The only problem i have with the 95 is that the crosshairs are waaay to big. I do use it sometimes in place of the L96A1 because the L9 scope lags in certain places and the M95 doesent . But yeah, its not great but I can use it if needed.
{BMF}*Frank_The_Tank
U.S. > Iran
+497|6828|Florida
I dont really like the m95.  Its an ok gun, I just dont care for it.  Id prefer to use the L96 or M24 over the 95.  The damage isnt any different to people, only difference is that it can take hit points for vehicles down more, but if I am a sniper, I find it much more useful to shoot people, rather than vehicles.
paranoid101
Ambitious but Rubbish
+540|6990
Never use to like the M95, but I have been playing alot of Special Forces of late and I was using it instead of the SVD and its not too bad after all.

Think we have been spoilt by the L95, but thats not an option in SF, so you will grow to love the M95 if you play more SF.
ShowMeTheMonkey
Member
+125|6952

EvilJebus wrote:

tvmissleman wrote:

no it is a good gun so STFU
I love your argument here, "it's a good gun". Wow where are some fact moron? How about, its NOT a good gun, every stat says that is is STATISTICLY WORSE THAN THE M42 L96A1. That's a fact, don't give me shit like "oh, it shoot good an does a lot of damage". No, it sucks, it is stupid and not a good gun.

Sham wrote:

I think the M95 is better than the L96, because I have a feel for the gun, simple as.

I shoot, you die, you don't have a chance to shoot back.
Oh yeah, just about as smart as your friend above you. Some nice evidence you have, "I have a better feal for it". Fuck that, the gun is worse, everything says it is, just because you "think" it is better doesn't mean it is. I KNOW it is worse, there is FACTS telling it just isn't as good as the L96 or the M42 or the SVD or the Type 88.

If I ever see either of you using a M95 on a server with out a jet or helicopter, I will call you an idiot.
You fool! I have a "feel" for the SA80! I know it is statistically crap! But I can out-snipe snipers with it. Get a headshot even if they are blasting away at me, I can kill you in three shots with it.

Sod statistics. If ststistics were true then all the parents of America with have 1.5 children!
Stick with what you know. I personally know the SA80 inside out on BF2 so I can shoot better.
Same as people using the USA planes on Wake. I've seen pros blow the J-10 to pieces in a straight dogfight, because they are better with it, even though all the statistics are worse than the J-10!
Specs
Member
+0|6896
M95 Sucks, only good for chopper/humvee shots
L96 Kicks Ass, really none of the problems of the M95, reload time rarely matters, sights waaaaayyyy better, bullet drop may be significant but I found it is only significant at really really long ranges, meaning almost outside of your viewing length. Sound may be a problem but lets be honest, I'm gonna hear and find any gun being shot other than a silenced pistol. Basically, if the sights and apparent lack of accuracy were the same with the m95 I would probably use it. As far as the SVD, I hate that one too, sights are very difficult to work with, dont seem natural, and the recoil is a lot to recover from, when using for long ranges. The Chinese rifle however, I do like, really good to use that one on Great Wall (were everyone is a friggin sniper), you get off many shots before reload and that can be very helpful when you are up against multiple targets, which you usually are. For me the M24 might as well be the L96.
senor_fulff
Member
+25|7010|Yorkshire, UK.

Chuzuki wrote:

And apparently senor_fulff hasn't figured out headshots yet.
Ummm.... yes I have and have many many more then you noob!

OMG noob with KDR with sniper rifles of less than 1 is saying I can't aim!!!

L96A1 all the way!!!

Last edited by senor_fulff (2006-08-01 15:39:13)

LostFate
Same shit, Different Arsehole
+95|6735|England
Hehe, i love it i always fly over to the airstrip on wake and M95 the guy who gets in a j10 then steal it
Chuzuki
Member
+3|6878

Chuckles wrote:

But using one gun or the other doesn't make me an inferior player. 

Hell, I'd think one's choice of location is significantly more important for a sniper than his choice of weapon, but maybe that's just me.
I wasn't saying any player is a bad sniper, just that the M95 is a bad rifle.  It has it's uses, but..

{BMF}*Frank_The_Tank wrote:

if I am a sniper, I find it much more useful to shoot people, rather than vehicles.
I completely agree with Specs on this one.  I used the Type 88 to start with, and it was amazing.  I could take out nearly any sniper on Wake Island, assuming I didn't have a squad of sniper whores staring me down.  After a while the SVD just became usable, and I can't explain it.  I think after I replaced my video card and could actually turn up my graphics above lowest, it made it much easier because I could actually pick out their head from the lump of brown or gray that's supposed to be their body.

@senor_fulff:  Don't be a noob.  Look at my KDR history.  BF2 was my first PC FPS and I could not aim with a mouse.  I came from Halo on the Xbox, and everyone wants to whore the sniper on Halo so I used it exclusively when I started BF2.  Now when I play as sniper my KDR is over 3 or 4, but it's taking a while to bring up my global KDR from a total of 8 months.
Fenix14
scout rush kekeke ^___^
+116|6807|Brisbane, Aus

spawnofthemist wrote:

M95 = noob ejector.

therefore

M95 = good.
+1
Demoneyes47
Member
+0|6789
My only gripe about the M95 is its thick crosshairs, other than that I think its a fine gun. Besides it looking frickin awsome, it has significantly less bullet drop than the L96, making it an easier transision from the M24. I think its a great unlock for sniper, although I would choose the SVD over it becuase I have grown to love the crosshairs and its trait of being practically an auto-sniper. Also its easier to re-adjust for bullet drop if you miss the first shot withthe SVD. But that just my opinion. The M95(what this post was originally about) is good depending on who uses it.
VspyVspy
Sniper
+183|6923|A sunburnt country
I only use the L96A1 (344+hrs with a sniper rifle and a KDR of 4:1 with it) because, for me, it is the much better rifle. 

There has only been a few times where I wished I had the M95 and those times are when there is a helo that I know I could take out but only have the 96.  Maybe happens 1 game in 100

If people want to use it, who cares.  Everyone is different.

Chuzuki, you need to work on that KDR dude, you're not quite a sniper yet. 



Edit: Grammar correction

Last edited by VspyVspy (2006-08-01 23:07:48)

R3v4n
We shall beat to quarters!
+433|6737|Melbourne

You forget what the gun is used for Anti-Material, its used to pass through things the L91A1,M24,SVd,Type 88 cant break through this is why it has such noise, in real life it can perce through a V8 engine cleanly.  why else would it be loaded witha .50 cal round.  Large cross hairs make it harder to use at a long range so dont try it with that in mind thats were the M24 comes in.

Last edited by R3v4n (2006-08-01 23:09:55)

~ Do you not know that in the service … one must always choose the lesser of two weevils?
pwned7
Member
+53|6829
L96A1 is prolly the best because its kinda silenced compared to the other sniper rifles. their all pretty much the same for me. i find that the SVD is awesome!!! i never used to use it, but if u have good accuracy, ull pwn cause u dont have to reload after each headshot same goes with the chinese one, but i havnt used that to many times.

the m95 is pretty cool. chockpit shots are awesome. sometimes im in the best poistion to shoot some out of a car or chopper and ive found my self with the M24 or the L96. i just wish i had the M95 in those situations!

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