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2006-07-28 10:15:55
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6938|NJ
Ok now I know she is doing her job and I'm sure she is doing a good one, but with what I know of the middle eastern culture women are considered second class citzens.   My point is do you really think that she is the best person to send into the region to have serious talks on this??

Discuss it's a cultural thing that I was thinking about.
2006-07-28 10:26:46
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6797
My attitude is that the west should not have to compromise their core values. As such, Islamic countries can just go ahead and learn to deal with it. Also - the people in power in these middle eastern nations are usually far from your devout Allah worshippers - they're usually sitting in some palace puffing on Cuban cigars and enjoying fine cognac or scooting around in leer jets and rolls royces.

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2006-07-28 10:29:55
King_County_Downy
shitfaced
+2,791|6839|Seattle

CameronPoe wrote:

My attitude is that the west should not have to compromise their core values. As such, Islamic countries can just go ahead and learn to deal with it. Also - the people in power in these middle eastern nations are usually far from your devout Allah worshippers - they're usually sitting in some palace puffing on Cuban cigars and enjoying fine cognac or scooting around in leer jets and rolls royces.
Wow Cameron, I actually agree with you there
Sober enough to know what I'm doing, drunk enough to really enjoy doing it
2006-07-28 11:00:48
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6938|NJ
Yeah but in such a region that is so amped with strife, we should use their rules to deal with them that is why it's called diplomicy
2006-07-28 11:02:08
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6797

cpt.fass1 wrote:

Yeah but in such a region that is so amped with strife, we should use their rules to deal with them that is why it's called diplomicy
And does the US government hide Condi when they come to visit the US? In Ireland we have had a female president since as far back as I can remember. Such diplomatic niceties would preclude the actual president of my country from engaging in diplomacy with middle eastern nations. I don't think that is acceptable.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2006-07-28 11:04:39)

2006-07-28 11:03:16
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6938|NJ
Well that's a different story cause it's on our grounds hence our rules... Just a thought I had that something might be handled better with a man.
2006-07-28 11:05:02
Mason4Assassin444
retired
+552|6904|USA
I'd rather have Powell there, but thats fucked now so....oh well. Doesn't matter at this point.

MIDDLEEAST=POWDERKEG

regardless....


Overall Condaleeza is doing a good job I think. I don't agree with this admin or some of her views but I can't knock her. She worked hard to get where she is.
2006-07-28 11:10:30
Horseman 77
Banned
+160|7079

cpt.fass1 wrote:

Ok now I know she is doing her job and I'm sure she is doing a good one, but with what I know of the middle eastern culture women are considered second class citzens.   My point is do you really think that she is the best person to send into the region to have serious talks on this??

Discuss it's a cultural thing that I was thinking about.
I was  thinking the very same thing!

Allthough they didn't think highly and certainly didn't fear aldultoruous mastubaters either.

So we must all agree she is quite a few steps up on their respect scale.

It seems your are now of the opinion that we should deal with them on and at their level if  we are to deal with them effecively and realistically and expext their respect.

Does this also aply to prisoners at Gitmo and Rules of engagement also?
2006-07-28 11:42:01
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6938|NJ
Ok when I re read that I just got the tear on clinton, nice.. 

Yeah I would say that in their culture using a man might bring a little more pull, just an idea..

As far as the prisoners at Gitmo I'd say yes but Rules of engagement NO.
2006-07-28 18:17:16
BN
smells like wee wee
+159|7009
What a great ambassador she is! Nobody respects her after she lied about the Iraq war. Powell would have been better. He lied but he had enough sense to get out of the Bush administration
2006-07-28 20:51:51
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6916|Canberra, AUS
Hm. Lebanon is probably the LEAST fundementalist state in that small area (not counting the UAE and Kuwait). They have a substantial Christian population. Hezbollah itself is not a fundementalilst Islamic group AFAIK.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
2006-07-28 21:11:29
Capt. Foley
Member
+155|6829|Allentown, PA, USA

King_County_Downy wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

My attitude is that the west should not have to compromise their core values. As such, Islamic countries can just go ahead and learn to deal with it. Also - the people in power in these middle eastern nations are usually far from your devout Allah worshippers - they're usually sitting in some palace puffing on Cuban cigars and enjoying fine cognac or scooting around in leer jets and rolls royces.
Wow Cameron, I actually agree with you there
Wow, amazinly I agree also.

 

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