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USS Liberty anyone?

<[onex]>Headstone wrote:

Only thing is, the US was the first to recognize Israel as a country. The US had no say in the matter of the creation process of Israel.

Actually, they had more say than anybody else.  They had the same number of votes (1), and they could use aid to convince most of Europe to do whatever they wanted.

If I said that about American troops, you'd shit.  I've seen you guys shit before.  Maybe you don't give a shit about anyone but Americans.  Yet it's the same people who argue freedom for Iraqis...right.

Spumantiii wrote:

If I said that about American troops, you'd shit.  I've seen you guys shit before.  Maybe you don't give a shit about anyone but Americans.  Yet it's the same people who argue freedom for Iraqis...right.

My statement is in regards to the bombing of the UN base.  I take no joy from the death of canadians.  I should have been more specific and am sorry if I offended you.

I'm just glad we got a hard ass like John Bolton repping us in the UN, I just hope that he becomes our permanent rep and that they take the leash off of him and let him do his job, it definitely seems like he's being held back when you look at his career history of kicking ass and chewing bubble gum

Bubbalo wrote:

<[onex]>Headstone wrote:

Only thing is, the US was the first to recognize Israel as a country. The US had no say in the matter of the creation process of Israel.

Actually, they had more say than anybody else.  They had the same number of votes (1), and they could use aid to convince most of Europe to do whatever they wanted.

If i remember correctly wasnt the league of nations abolished then and the US had to be invited? Dunno, just wondering, its been to long to relive history class LOL

UN says Israel warned many times before fatal attack
U.N. Secretary-General
Kofi Annan initially referred to Tuesday's deadly Israeli strike as the "apparently deliberate targeting" of the Khiam U.N. observer post.

But he softened his stance after talking with Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, who said he believed it was a mistake and would order an investigation.

"We await the end of the investigations, and I am grateful for the prime minister for what he has said, and we accept his words," Annan said in Rome, where he was attending a conference on the conflict between Israel and Hizbollah.

PuckMercury wrote:

oooh, NPR ... that clarifies it

Think of it this way - what the hell would Israel have to gain from blasting a UN outpost?

alpinestar wrote:

I bet america regrets bomb deliveries to Israel now.

do you punish the manufacturer of the gun in murder trials?  A tool is neither good nor evil, neither it its manufacturer.  The morality lies in they who impliment it.

maybe the UN troops ware also hizbolla, or maybe people make mistakes.

Last edited by redhawk454 (2006-07-28 02:38:12)

Kmarion wrote:

UN says Israel warned many times before fatal attack
U.N. Secretary-General
Kofi Annan initially referred to Tuesday's deadly Israeli strike as the "apparently deliberate targeting" of the Khiam U.N. observer post.

But he softened his stance after talking with Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, who said he believed it was a mistake and would order an investigation.

"We await the end of the investigations, and I am grateful for the prime minister for what he has said, and we accept his words," Annan said in Rome, where he was attending a conference on the conflict between Israel and Hizbollah.

Havent you guys heard about the email from the canadian major. He sent emails to the UN telling them how Hezbollah was extremley close to his position and how it was unsafe to conduct patrols in their area. No wonder it got bombed.

BN wrote:

redhawk454 wrote:

what about the 2 isreali soldiers who were kidnapped?

Hardly a kidnapping, they were in Lebanon at the time. More like a POW


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Prisoner of war?? Please dude..so you are saying there was an "active" war at the time of their abduction? I don't think so. It was clearly kidnapping. The Lebanese Shiite Hezbollah movement announced that its guerrillas have captured two Israeli soldiers in southern Lebanon. "Implementing our promise to free Arab prisoners in Israeli jails" ...hmm we may also call it blackmale.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/ … ED3E0A.htm

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Bubbalo wrote:

The US pushed for the founding of the UN, and was never part of the League of Nations, which IIRC ended before WWII.

TY sir, i couldnt remember  LOL

B.Schuss wrote:

cosmichippo wrote:

BN wrote:

Hardly a kidnapping, they were in Lebanon at the time. More like a POW


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Prisoner of war?? Please dude..so you are saying there was an "active" war at the time of their abduction? I don't think so. It was clearly kidnapping. The Lebanese Shiite Hezbollah movement announced that its guerrillas have captured two Israeli soldiers in southern Lebanon. "Implementing our promise to free Arab prisoners in Israeli jails" ...hmm we may also call it blackmale.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/ … ED3E0A.htm

http://www.blogsofwar.com/2006/07/12/he … ct-of-war/

hm, let's see, Israeli Armed Forces enter Lebanese territory while actively engaged in skirmishes with Hezbollah militants. I am no IDF member, but I don't think they had any illusions about what might happen.
You know, I wasn't there, but I wonder how it was possible that the IF soldiers could have been captured by militants...

Regardless...they are not classified as POW's. Despite their illusions, or lack of, the point remains. There are other means of going about expediting "hostile" forces from your territory. It does not call for an abduction and blackmale to release prisoners. Defend it all you want. Those are the facts. Even if they should not have been in that territory, Hezbollah had "bad" intentions with the capturing of these soldiers. Primarily Blackmale to release POW's!

BN wrote:

cosmichippo wrote:

Prisoner of war?? Please dude..so you are saying there was an "active" war at the time of their abduction? I don't think so. It was clearly kidnapping. The Lebanese Shiite Hezbollah movement announced that its guerrillas have captured two Israeli soldiers in southern Lebanon. "Implementing our promise to free Arab prisoners in Israeli jails" ...hmm we may also call it blackmale.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/ … ED3E0A.htm

http://www.blogsofwar.com/2006/07/12/he … ct-of-war/

So catching 2 foreign soldiers on your soil us not an act of war but detaining them is?

You can refer to the above post as well