Wreckognize
Member
+294|6455
USS Liberty anyone?
Spumantiii
pistolero
+147|6652|Canada
Noam Chomsky speaks to Harvard students about definitions and Israel.  Definite good watch when anyone has the time I recommend it

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid= … am+chomsky
minus the gay theme song

Last edited by Spumantiii (2006-07-27 15:55:56)

Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6531

<[onex]>Headstone wrote:

Only thing is, the US was the first to recognize Israel as a country. The US had no say in the matter of the creation process of Israel.
Actually, they had more say than anybody else.  They had the same number of votes (1), and they could use aid to convince most of Europe to do whatever they wanted.
Major_Spittle
Banned
+276|6624|United States of America
I don't care who bombed the UN base, it sounds like a good start to me.  The enemy takes many forms.
Spumantiii
pistolero
+147|6652|Canada
If I said that about American troops, you'd shit.  I've seen you guys shit before.  Maybe you don't give a shit about anyone but Americans.  Yet it's the same people who argue freedom for Iraqis...right.
BN
smells like wee wee
+159|6737
The UN will remain toothless so long as 1 country can veto the whole show.
Major_Spittle
Banned
+276|6624|United States of America

Spumantiii wrote:

If I said that about American troops, you'd shit.  I've seen you guys shit before.  Maybe you don't give a shit about anyone but Americans.  Yet it's the same people who argue freedom for Iraqis...right.
My statement is in regards to the bombing of the UN base.  I take no joy from the death of canadians.  I should have been more specific and am sorry if I offended you.
alpinestar
Member
+304|6566|New York City baby.

Spumantiii wrote:

If I said that about American troops, you'd shit.  I've seen you guys shit before.  Maybe you don't give a shit about anyone but Americans.  Yet it's the same people who argue freedom for Iraqis...right.
Unfortunately that is how average american thinks not all but majority.
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6519|Southeastern USA
I'm just glad we got a hard ass like John Bolton repping us in the UN, I just hope that he becomes our permanent rep and that they take the leash off of him and let him do his job, it definitely seems like he's being held back when you look at his career history of kicking ass and chewing bubble gum
<[onex]>Headstone
Member
+102|6671|New York

PekkaA wrote:

<[onex wrote:

>Headstone]As for the UK, Whatever, They are passing a law that guys cant show bare chests. Talk about over the top(no pun intended) This means, if your playing sports in public, its sweat and overheat, or get arrested for taking off your shirt. OMFG give me a break already. Thats what i think of the recent UK politics
What an intelligent comment. Dragging something to this conversation that has nothing to do with subject. And btw, don't get me started about USA and ridiculous laws...

<[onex wrote:

>Headstone]Watch the news, and Listen to the People that were IN the attack, Hezbolla didnt let them Move away.
BS. Because one of UN officers was finnish, it's been all over in news here. And nobody has said anything like that. And they even have radio conversations between killed officers and others.
WHATEVER ON #1 And BS On #2

Silly state laws that arnt enforced arnt the same as a NATIONAL LAw!
<[onex]>Headstone
Member
+102|6671|New York

Bubbalo wrote:

<[onex]>Headstone wrote:

Only thing is, the US was the first to recognize Israel as a country. The US had no say in the matter of the creation process of Israel.
Actually, they had more say than anybody else.  They had the same number of votes (1), and they could use aid to convince most of Europe to do whatever they wanted.
If i remember correctly wasnt the league of nations abolished then and the US had to be invited? Dunno, just wondering, its been to long to relive history class LOL
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6531
The US pushed for the founding of the UN, and was never part of the League of Nations, which IIRC ended before WWII.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6570|132 and Bush

UN says Israel warned many times before fatal attack
U.N. Secretary-General
Kofi Annan initially referred to Tuesday's deadly Israeli strike as the "apparently deliberate targeting" of the Khiam U.N. observer post.

But he softened his stance after talking with Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, who said he believed it was a mistake and would order an investigation.

"We await the end of the investigations, and I am grateful for the prime minister for what he has said, and we accept his words," Annan said in Rome, where he was attending a conference on the conflict between Israel and Hizbollah.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
buttersIRL
Member
+17|6567
what about the 2 red cross vans that where blown up by israel ? The missiles actually heat the center of the red cross sign,  apparently they used the it as a X marks the spot.
redhawk454
Member
+50|6518|Divided States of America

PuckMercury wrote:

oooh, NPR ... that clarifies it

Think of it this way - what the hell would Israel have to gain from blasting a UN outpost?

alpinestar wrote:

I bet america regrets bomb deliveries to Israel now.
do you punish the manufacturer of the gun in murder trials?  A tool is neither good nor evil, neither it its manufacturer.  The morality lies in they who impliment it.
maybe the UN troops ware also hizbolla, or maybe people make mistakes.

Last edited by redhawk454 (2006-07-28 02:38:12)

redhawk454
Member
+50|6518|Divided States of America

buttersIRL wrote:

what about the 2 red cross vans that where blown up by israel ? The missiles actually heat the center of the red cross sign,  apparently they used the it as a X marks the spot.
what about the 2 isreali soldiers who were kidnapped?
-=NHB=- Bananahands
Member
+58|6528

Kmarion wrote:

UN says Israel warned many times before fatal attack
U.N. Secretary-General
Kofi Annan initially referred to Tuesday's deadly Israeli strike as the "apparently deliberate targeting" of the Khiam U.N. observer post.

But he softened his stance after talking with Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, who said he believed it was a mistake and would order an investigation.

"We await the end of the investigations, and I am grateful for the prime minister for what he has said, and we accept his words," Annan said in Rome, where he was attending a conference on the conflict between Israel and Hizbollah.
Havent you guys heard about the email from the canadian major. He sent emails to the UN telling them how Hezbollah was extremley close to his position and how it was unsafe to conduct patrols in their area. No wonder it got bombed.
BN
smells like wee wee
+159|6737

redhawk454 wrote:

what about the 2 isreali soldiers who were kidnapped?
Hardly a kidnapping, they were in Lebanon at the time. More like a POW


http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGE … -finul.gif

http://www.forbes.com/technology/feeds/ … 73051.html
cosmichippo
Member
+5|6456|New Brunswick, Canada

BN wrote:

redhawk454 wrote:

what about the 2 isreali soldiers who were kidnapped?
Hardly a kidnapping, they were in Lebanon at the time. More like a POW


http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGE … -finul.gif

http://www.forbes.com/technology/feeds/ … 73051.html
Prisoner of war?? Please dude..so you are saying there was an "active" war at the time of their abduction? I don't think so. It was clearly kidnapping. The Lebanese Shiite Hezbollah movement announced that its guerrillas have captured two Israeli soldiers in southern Lebanon. "Implementing our promise to free Arab prisoners in Israeli jails" ...hmm we may also call it blackmale.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/ … ED3E0A.htm

http://www.blogsofwar.com/2006/07/12/he … ct-of-war/
spastic bullet
would like to know if you are on crack
+77|6510|vancouver

BN wrote:

redhawk454 wrote:

what about the 2 isreali soldiers who were kidnapped?
Hardly a kidnapping, they were in Lebanon at the time. More like a POW


http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGE … -finul.gif

http://www.forbes.com/technology/feeds/ … 73051.html
I did not know that.  Not that they were "in Lebanon" per se, so much as "going the extra mile" to pursue terrorists, I'm sure... 
<[onex]>Headstone
Member
+102|6671|New York

Bubbalo wrote:

The US pushed for the founding of the UN, and was never part of the League of Nations, which IIRC ended before WWII.
TY sir, i couldnt remember  LOL
B.Schuss
I'm back, baby... ( sort of )
+664|6811|Cologne, Germany

cosmichippo wrote:

BN wrote:

redhawk454 wrote:

what about the 2 isreali soldiers who were kidnapped?
Hardly a kidnapping, they were in Lebanon at the time. More like a POW


http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGE … -finul.gif

http://www.forbes.com/technology/feeds/ … 73051.html
Prisoner of war?? Please dude..so you are saying there was an "active" war at the time of their abduction? I don't think so. It was clearly kidnapping. The Lebanese Shiite Hezbollah movement announced that its guerrillas have captured two Israeli soldiers in southern Lebanon. "Implementing our promise to free Arab prisoners in Israeli jails" ...hmm we may also call it blackmale.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/ … ED3E0A.htm

http://www.blogsofwar.com/2006/07/12/he … ct-of-war/
hm, let's see, Israeli Armed Forces enter Lebanese territory while actively engaged in skirmishes with Hezbollah militants. I am no IDF member, but I don't think they had any illusions about what might happen.
You know, I wasn't there, but I wonder how it was possible that the IF soldiers could have been captured by militants...
cosmichippo
Member
+5|6456|New Brunswick, Canada

B.Schuss wrote:

cosmichippo wrote:

BN wrote:


Hardly a kidnapping, they were in Lebanon at the time. More like a POW


http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGE … -finul.gif

http://www.forbes.com/technology/feeds/ … 73051.html
Prisoner of war?? Please dude..so you are saying there was an "active" war at the time of their abduction? I don't think so. It was clearly kidnapping. The Lebanese Shiite Hezbollah movement announced that its guerrillas have captured two Israeli soldiers in southern Lebanon. "Implementing our promise to free Arab prisoners in Israeli jails" ...hmm we may also call it blackmale.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/ … ED3E0A.htm

http://www.blogsofwar.com/2006/07/12/he … ct-of-war/
hm, let's see, Israeli Armed Forces enter Lebanese territory while actively engaged in skirmishes with Hezbollah militants. I am no IDF member, but I don't think they had any illusions about what might happen.
You know, I wasn't there, but I wonder how it was possible that the IF soldiers could have been captured by militants...
Regardless...they are not classified as POW's. Despite their illusions, or lack of, the point remains. There are other means of going about expediting "hostile" forces from your territory. It does not call for an abduction and blackmale to release prisoners. Defend it all you want. Those are the facts. Even if they should not have been in that territory, Hezbollah had "bad" intentions with the capturing of these soldiers. Primarily Blackmale to release POW's!
BN
smells like wee wee
+159|6737

cosmichippo wrote:

Prisoner of war?? Please dude..so you are saying there was an "active" war at the time of their abduction? I don't think so. It was clearly kidnapping. The Lebanese Shiite Hezbollah movement announced that its guerrillas have captured two Israeli soldiers in southern Lebanon. "Implementing our promise to free Arab prisoners in Israeli jails" ...hmm we may also call it blackmale.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/ … ED3E0A.htm

http://www.blogsofwar.com/2006/07/12/he … ct-of-war/
So catching 2 foreign soldiers on your soil us not an act of war but detaining them is?
cosmichippo
Member
+5|6456|New Brunswick, Canada

BN wrote:

cosmichippo wrote:

Prisoner of war?? Please dude..so you are saying there was an "active" war at the time of their abduction? I don't think so. It was clearly kidnapping. The Lebanese Shiite Hezbollah movement announced that its guerrillas have captured two Israeli soldiers in southern Lebanon. "Implementing our promise to free Arab prisoners in Israeli jails" ...hmm we may also call it blackmale.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/ … ED3E0A.htm

http://www.blogsofwar.com/2006/07/12/he … ct-of-war/
So catching 2 foreign soldiers on your soil us not an act of war but detaining them is?
You can refer to the above post as well

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