voltage
Member
+46|7056|Sweden

darkcrystal wrote:

the weapon k/d ratio on bf2s is not the "real" k/d ratio.  the deaths are just how many times you have died while you have x weapon out, not how many times you have been killed by that weapon. 
that's how it supposed to be. How many times you have been killed by a certain weapon may be interesting but can't be compared with your kills with that weapon.

Would be nice if the stat showed how many times you've been killed by a specific weapon as well, it would help players improve themselves.

Last edited by voltage (2006-07-27 04:05:38)

Todd_Angelo
Leukocyte
+336|6842|Warlord

xWSxCriminalx wrote:

btw claymores are for the weak....anyone with more than 300clays is weak
Random number much? BTW anyone with more than 25% of kills from vehicles is weak, Lieutenant 62% vehicle kills


Barrakuda777 wrote:

Koodas_sniper_rifle (sniper only account)

Claymore
Kills 608
Deaths 23 
Ratio 26.43
Time used 0.99

Use them to guard my arse while im shooting or to protect flags....
KPH of 600+, nice.
Barrakuda777
Member
+86|6952|Somewhere near a shrub or rock

Todd_Angelo wrote:

xWSxCriminalx wrote:

btw claymores are for the weak....anyone with more than 300clays is weak
Random number much? BTW anyone with more than 25% of kills from vehicles is weak, Lieutenant 62% vehicle kills


Barrakuda777 wrote:

Koodas_sniper_rifle (sniper only account)

Claymore
Kills 608
Deaths 23 
Ratio 26.43
Time used 0.99

Use them to guard my arse while im shooting or to protect flags....
KPH of 600+, nice.
KPH = kills per hour? ..... wowza that seems high... thats... 1200 points per hour in kills alone! - is that based on just the claymore stats? (sorry cant check my stats as im filtered at work!)

Kooda
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|6982|UK

Tripp wrote:

check out my claymore ratio
that doesnt mean anything... thats just the number of times you killed with claymores and the number of times you died when having claymores equiped...
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|6982|UK

Barrakuda777 wrote:

Todd_Angelo wrote:

xWSxCriminalx wrote:

btw claymores are for the weak....anyone with more than 300clays is weak
Random number much? BTW anyone with more than 25% of kills from vehicles is weak, Lieutenant 62% vehicle kills


Barrakuda777 wrote:

Koodas_sniper_rifle (sniper only account)

Claymore
Kills 608
Deaths 23 
Ratio 26.43
Time used 0.99

Use them to guard my arse while im shooting or to protect flags....
KPH of 600+, nice.
KPH = kills per hour? ..... wowza that seems high... thats... 1200 points per hour in kills alone! - is that based on just the claymore stats? (sorry cant check my stats as im filtered at work!)

Kooda
yet again... that time counts as the time he had claymores equiped. The actual play time with claymores lain is completely different.
Mj.Blindfisch
Bulletdrop-Buddha
+338|6912|Germany
Claymores FTW!

I really like to set up a "mechanical ambush",there are usually 2 claymores at the south base on Wake when I play there.

And all those hardcore closecombat assault noobs who whine all the time about these "unfair and indestructable" claymores should probably use their brain a littlebit more,there are ways to remove claymores!
The easiest one is to stay away,flag capture radius is big enough.

There are so many great techniques with can be applied with claymores.I really love it when you encounter an assault guy,you run around the corner,drop a claymore and wait.Unbelievably many idiots still run after a sniper.
EvilMonkeySlayer
Member
+82|6867
Hey Fisch, my claymore ratio rocks your world. 

Also noticed you've inched ahead of me in the rifle rankings, time for me to put a bit of time in at the weekend and get ahead of you again.
Todd_Angelo
Leukocyte
+336|6842|Warlord

Barrakuda777 wrote:

KPH = kills per hour? ..... wowza that seems high... thats... 1200 points per hour in kills alone! - is that based on just the claymore stats? (sorry cant check my stats as im filtered at work!)

Kooda

Vilham wrote:

yet again... that time counts as the time he had claymores equiped. The actual play time with claymores lain is completely different.
Yeah, it's a totally meaningless stat but very much like KDR for clays it's nice to have a high number
Diogenese
Philosopher King
+16|6810|New York State, USA
I too have turned and dropped prone at the sight of a claymore and survived.  It went off and I was still there. I was shocked and then the sniper came out the door to set a new one and got a shotgun to the face.  He had probably never had someone survive the blast before. Hehe shotgun to the face.
Mj.Blindfisch
Bulletdrop-Buddha
+338|6912|Germany

EvilMonkeySlayer wrote:

Hey Fisch, my claymore ratio rocks your world. 

Also noticed you've inched ahead of me in the rifle rankings, time for me to put a bit of time in at the weekend and get ahead of you again.
Yeah,I got ahead of you,and since I'm still on holidays I'm playing every day aswell.
Ranked 118th at the moment.Today I'll probably reach the 10.000th sniper rifle kill mark.
Top 100 here we come...
Mason4Assassin444
retired
+552|6878|USA

Diogenese wrote:

I too have turned and dropped prone at the sight of a claymore and survived.  It went off and I was still there. I was shocked and then the sniper came out the door to set a new one and got a shotgun to the face.  He had probably never had someone survive the blast before. Hehe shotgun to the face.
Sweet. SO its a legit tactic. I was thinking it was just luck. Thanks man.
mKmalfunction
Infamous meleeKings cult. Est. 2003 B.C.
+82|6755|The Lost Highway

VeNg3nCe^ wrote:

darkcrystal wrote:

the weapon k/d ratio on bf2s is not the "real" k/d ratio.  the deaths are just how many times you have died while you have x weapon out, not how many times you have been killed by that weapon. 
Thats what a kill/death ratio is........ how many times you have killed someone with X weapon and how many times you have been killed with X weapon.
Other dudes right, you're wrong.
cheshiremoe
Evil Geniuses for a sparsely populated tomorrow
+50|6924

EvilMonkeySlayer wrote:

It's amazing just how effective claymores are at taking out people in vehicles.

A lot of snipers i've seen place the claymores on the road itself facing toward a direction, however.. this has a couple of downsides;

* It will only kill in one direction, so.. the enemy driving in one direction will be given plenty of time to stop before driving over the claymores.
* It makes them much more visible, so the chances of someone spotting them in a jeep before the kill range also decreases the probability of a kill(s).
* It doesn't take into account people in covered vehicles like the vodnik, whereas my method does.. typically ensuring the driver is killed.

There you go, all you snipers. A basic howto on placing claymores around roads. I'd write a snipers guide but there are already way too many.
I like to get the cars too and you are right that they work better if the clays are placed on the side of the road.  You can usually find a good way to hide them too.  I like to place them on either side of a bridge.
Tanks spoil the fun though.
King_County_Downy
shitfaced
+2,791|6812|Seattle

Talk about beating a dead horse...
Sober enough to know what I'm doing, drunk enough to really enjoy doing it
XISIX
Member
+116|6830
Thx for claymore prone tip.

Gotta admit I love throwing it at somebody's feet + knowing if they move it will trigger explosion.

Setting claymores to me is a bit like placing anti-tank mines.
Sneaky + fun.

Booby trapping vehicles is also useful.  Throw claymore behind driver seat.  Mafia style hijinx.

Last edited by XISIX (2006-07-27 11:07:37)

Stealth42o
She looked 18 to me officer
+175|6887
I didn't know there were tatics.

Point it in the direction some sorry SOB will be and walk away.
sgt.sonner
the electric eel has got me by the brain banana
+146|6748|Denmizzark!!

Tripp wrote:

check out my claymore ratio
aww, I thought mine was teh l33t ratio.. nice advice btw..
Burning_Monkey
Moving Target
+108|7053
I, myself, enjoy doing things like dropping claymores inside supply crates.  I get another claymore to use and some poor sot gets messed up when he goes to get resupplied.  Or on Karkand, I really love killing some one then tossing a claymore on the body.  Send a little love to the medic whores, explosive style
908741059871059781
Sheep of War
+40|6858
If you can get under stairs that are open (you can see through them), and under the clay,  then the clay will explode without doing any damage to you
xWSxCriminalx
Member
+40|6752

Todd_Angelo wrote:

xWSxCriminalx wrote:

btw claymores are for the weak....anyone with more than 300clays is weak
Random number much? BTW anyone with more than 25% of kills from vehicles is weak, Lieutenant 62% vehicle kills
Coming from someone with a crappy K : D in just about everthing and 2000 claymore kills....i'll let your record speak for itself.
MorbidFetus
Member
+76|6766|Ohio

VeNg3nCe^ wrote:

Thats what a kill/death ratio is........ how many times you have killed someone with X weapon and how many times you have been killed with X weapon.
Yeah dude I was wondering about this. Take jets for example. Are those deaths how many times you were killed by a jet or how many times you were killed by a jet while in a jet? I was thinking the former. And if that's true, vehicle ratios mean nothing. Theorectically (unless you flat out suck), the longer you stay in a jet the higher your ratio will go. Not because that would mean more kills but because that's less time you would have spent ground pounding which opens you up for getting a bomb in the face. Therefore, your aviator denominator will be quite low since getting raped by another pilot only happens once in a blue moon unless you go out of your way to find a challenge or dont fly the F-35hitbox "smart" on Wake.
Ssandstorm
Member
+73|6950|Perth, Western Australia

xWSxCriminalx wrote:

sagexp wrote:

VeNg3nCe^ wrote:

Thats what a kill/death ratio is........ how many times you have killed someone with X weapon and how many times you have been killed with X weapon.
You are completly wrong, the poster darkcrystal was right, a k/d ratio reflects the deaths while holding the weapon of choice
that means he's only half wrong not completly...give him a break yeesh

btw claymores are for the weak....anyone with more than 300clays is weak
i must be really "weak" then eh?
Todd_Angelo
Leukocyte
+336|6842|Warlord

xWSxCriminalx wrote:

Todd_Angelo wrote:

xWSxCriminalx wrote:

btw claymores are for the weak....anyone with more than 300clays is weak
Random number much? BTW anyone with more than 25% of kills from vehicles is weak, Lieutenant 62% vehicle kills
Coming from someone with a crappy K : D in just about everthing...
Yeah, and? Did I claim I was any good, like ever? LOL

You really should have read my response during our little exchange via messages a little more carefully... you remember the one where you were sooooo polite... your KDR ain't nothing to write home about when you subtract the vehicle component buddy boy. Since you were silly enough to bring it up in public:
your infantry KDR, 1.34;
my sniper account's, 1.89;
my main account's for the past two months, 2.17.

Now what was that you were saying about a crappy KDR?

xWSxCriminalx wrote:

...and 2000 claymore kills....i'll let your record speak for itself.
Actually it's about 4,000 totalling all my accounts, and climbing all the time. Just as you're not ashamed of your over-use of vehicles to get easy kills I'm not ashamed of my tactical use of claymore to get easy kills, protect flags and hence help the team win.

Speaking of winning, I expect my WLR will be higher than yours in about five weeks unless you pick up the pace a bit... but I see you've dropped back down below 2


MorbidFetus wrote:

VeNg3nCe^ wrote:

Thats what a kill/death ratio is........ how many times you have killed someone with X weapon and how many times you have been killed with X weapon.
Yeah dude I was wondering about this....
This is covered above. He was mistaken; see previous responses.
stryyker
bad touch
+1,682|6935|California

claymores? tactics?


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EvilMonkeySlayer
Member
+82|6867

stryyker wrote:

I like cheese.




A claymore once bit me in the arse, but I enjoyed the pain.
Claymores are great to stop enemy assaults or in choke points. A lot of snipers just put them at random places around flags, others apply them in a strategic or tactical sense.




I'm also evil.


I see the following quite often.

https://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~mccasey/bf2/screen322.jpg (this was actually 5 kills and not 4)
I stemmed the tide of an assault by the PLA, I took out the guys in the first two jeeps.

https://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~mccasey/bf2/screen332.jpg
This is an everyday occurance of taking out people who try to take a flag.

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