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PuckMercury
6 x 9 = 42
+298|5647|Portland, OR USA
The hardships and trials which were endured by the generations before ours (70 and above) were essential to the forging of their character.  The manner and morality with which the previous generation approached each and every problem before it were purely a function of the trials which they endured.

We have it too easy.

We have not had the basic trials which were faced by those before us.  In the absense of any real, obvious, day to day plight, we seek it out elsewhere in an attempt to identify with it and internalize it as our own.  This ends in hollow defeat and greater gulfs in understanding as the effort to identify is not in earnest, but in vain.  I speak of course of what is largely recognized as "civilized" portions of the world such as the major areas of Europe, the Americas, some of Asia and Australia

We have no day to day struggle facing us so we build up trite occurances to mammoth proportions in order to manufacture the strife and us vs. them mentality which solidified those before us to an iron resolve.  I honestly don't think anything else can happen on this planet to effectively and genuinely reproduce that atmosphere.  I find this troubling and quite sad.

We ride on the coat tails of those before us and leave rags as a vessel for those behind us.  I do not pretend those before us were without fault, but the majority of the mistakes made were a function of ignorance and innocense.  The mistakes we willfully propogate fly in the face of knowledge and good sense.

Look at your grandparents and learn from them.
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|5826|67.222.138.85
Reminds me of a philosophe, can't think of which one...
PuckMercury
6 x 9 = 42
+298|5647|Portland, OR USA
just something I've thought for a while and finally managed to articulate to a degree I found sufficient to post.
jonsimon
Member
+224|5615

PuckMercury wrote:

The hardships and trials which were endured by the generations before ours (70 and above) were essential to the forging of their character.  The manner and morality with which the previous generation approached each and every problem before it were purely a function of the trials which they endured.

We have it too easy.

We have not had the basic trials which were faced by those before us.  In the absense of any real, obvious, day to day plight, we seek it out elsewhere in an attempt to identify with it and internalize it as our own.  This ends in hollow defeat and greater gulfs in understanding as the effort to identify is not in earnest, but in vain.  I speak of course of what is largely recognized as "civilized" portions of the world such as the major areas of Europe, the Americas, some of Asia and Australia

We have no day to day struggle facing us so we build up trite occurances to mammoth proportions in order to manufacture the strife and us vs. them mentality which solidified those before us to an iron resolve.  I honestly don't think anything else can happen on this planet to effectively and genuinely reproduce that atmosphere.  I find this troubling and quite sad.

We ride on the coat tails of those before us and leave rags as a vessel for those behind us.  I do not pretend those before us were without fault, but the majority of the mistakes made were a function of ignorance and innocense.  The mistakes we willfully propogate fly in the face of knowledge and good sense.

Look at your grandparents and learn from them.
I hate this kind of "we need conflicts like those before us to better ourselves!" reasoning. Advancement is finding new kinds of conflicts to better yourself with, your ancesters faced their problems, the result is in your genes. Its our job to forge ahead and find different challenges to enrich the next youths blood.
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|5826|67.222.138.85

jonsimon wrote:

PuckMercury wrote:

The hardships and trials which were endured by the generations before ours (70 and above) were essential to the forging of their character.  The manner and morality with which the previous generation approached each and every problem before it were purely a function of the trials which they endured.

We have it too easy.

We have not had the basic trials which were faced by those before us.  In the absense of any real, obvious, day to day plight, we seek it out elsewhere in an attempt to identify with it and internalize it as our own.  This ends in hollow defeat and greater gulfs in understanding as the effort to identify is not in earnest, but in vain.  I speak of course of what is largely recognized as "civilized" portions of the world such as the major areas of Europe, the Americas, some of Asia and Australia

We have no day to day struggle facing us so we build up trite occurances to mammoth proportions in order to manufacture the strife and us vs. them mentality which solidified those before us to an iron resolve.  I honestly don't think anything else can happen on this planet to effectively and genuinely reproduce that atmosphere.  I find this troubling and quite sad.

We ride on the coat tails of those before us and leave rags as a vessel for those behind us.  I do not pretend those before us were without fault, but the majority of the mistakes made were a function of ignorance and innocense.  The mistakes we willfully propogate fly in the face of knowledge and good sense.

Look at your grandparents and learn from them.
I hate this kind of "we need conflicts like those before us to better ourselves!" reasoning. Advancement is finding new kinds of conflicts to better yourself with, your ancesters faced their problems, the result is in your genes. Its our job to forge ahead and find different challenges to enrich the next youths blood.
He's not saying we need to re-create last generation's mistakes, he's saying we should learn from them, look to them for answers to many of the problems we're creating.
PuckMercury
6 x 9 = 42
+298|5647|Portland, OR USA

jonsimon wrote:

I hate this kind of "we need conflicts like those before us to better ourselves!" reasoning.
We don't need those like those before us.  We simply need something.

jonsimon wrote:

Advancement is finding new kinds of conflicts to better yourself with, your ancesters faced their problems, the result is in your genes. Its our job to forge ahead and find different challenges to enrich the next youths blood.
We are failing miserably.

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

He's not saying we need to re-create last generation's mistakes, he's saying we should learn from them, look to them for answers to many of the problems we're creating.
QFE

Emphasis on the learning.  That which we forget we are doomed to repeat.

Last edited by PuckMercury (2006-07-24 16:46:53)

King_County_Downy
shitfaced
+2,791|5717|Seattle

It's called pussification and yes, it's strong these days. We have a new wave of hippies who are blind to how brutal this world really is. Not everyone wants peace and sometimes you have to fight.
Sober enough to know what I'm doing, drunk enough to really enjoy doing it
ATG
Banned
+5,233|5649|Global Command
The " greatest generation " looks at ours with justifiable contempt.
In the days after Pearl Harbor there were lines at the recruiting stations. In the days after 9-11 there were mostly anti-war protests.
     I own a small business and have to try really hard to find motivated caucasions to work. They pay is excellent with my best guy making over 1k per week. He is also an illegal alien.
    WTF can I say.



I vote;
POST OF THE DAY!
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|5826|67.222.138.85

Alexanderthegrape wrote:

The " greatest generation " looks at ours with justifiable contempt.
In the days after Pearl Harbor there were lines at the recruiting stations. In the days after 9-11 there were mostly anti-war protests.
     I own a small business and have to try really hard to find motivated caucasions to work. They pay is excellent with my best guy making over 1k per week. He is also an illegal alien.
    WTF can I say.



I vote;
POST OF THE DAY!
I vote post of about the last month.
AlbertWesker[RE]
Not Human Anymore
+144|5764|Seattle, WA
I agree with everything in your post m8....however....what is this 42 business....6x9= 42 (ummm 54).  Please elaborate. 
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|5826|67.222.138.85

AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:

I agree with everything in your post m8....however....what is this 42 business....6x9= 42 (ummm 54).  Please elaborate. 
He's referring to the joke that the meaning of life is 42, I believe.
Spumantiii
pistolero
+147|5802|Canada

PuckMercury wrote:

We ride on the coat tails of those before us and leave rags as a vessel for those behind us.
We live in the age of fast food, instant connection, instant reward, 'me' time, "ADD" (the result of our lifestyles), top 40, rockstar INXS publicity stunts, Oprah instructing our gfs/wives on what's right, Maxim etc for us, it's a live now fuck the future attitude that doesn't reward hard work, diligence and responsibility.  I agree that in many cases immigrants do better jobs because they are from places where people don't take their shit for granted.  We could ride bikes but instead everyone would rather have a truck.  I've said the same thing, and friendships aren't what they used to be, business relationships, all the places money goes to without our knowledge.  Most people aren't concerned with the worrld or what has happened, most choose to be ignorant, I've talked with so many people who found out things they just didn't want to know.  These are things about ourselves, our govts, the media, all of which have changed so much in the last 30 years.  It's become so depressingly true.  People don't put away like they used to either.  We spend all our money and are in debt on extravagances, things that weren't around until recently (except cars/boats/vacations).  People don't seem concerned with politics and history it's become 'uncool' unless in a position requiring such knowledge.

Last edited by Spumantiii (2006-07-24 18:13:17)

Spumantiii
pistolero
+147|5802|Canada

AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:

I agree with everything in your post m8....however....what is this 42 business....6x9= 42 (ummm 54).  Please elaborate. 
lolz that's the point the answer was wrong
the question was wron so the answer was too

Last edited by Spumantiii (2006-07-24 17:55:49)

AlbertWesker[RE]
Not Human Anymore
+144|5764|Seattle, WA

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:

I agree with everything in your post m8....however....what is this 42 business....6x9= 42 (ummm 54).  Please elaborate. 
He's referring to the joke that the meaning of life is 42, I believe.
Hitchiker quote?
ATG
Banned
+5,233|5649|Global Command

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Alexanderthegrape wrote:

The " greatest generation " looks at ours with justifiable contempt.
In the days after Pearl Harbor there were lines at the recruiting stations. In the days after 9-11 there were mostly anti-war protests.
     I own a small business and have to try really hard to find motivated caucasions to work. They pay is excellent with my best guy making over 1k per week. He is also an illegal alien.
    WTF can I say.



I vote;
POST OF THE DAY!
I vote post of about the last month.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
But, your going to make a flaming egomaniac out of Puck.
PuckMercury
6 x 9 = 42
+298|5647|Portland, OR USA

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:

I agree with everything in your post m8....however....what is this 42 business....6x9= 42 (ummm 54).  Please elaborate. 
He's referring to the joke that the meaning of life is 42, I believe.
It'a from Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

A damn good read.  It's a 5 book trilogy.  I'll allow that to sink in. 

Through the five books, you find that a machine was built to find the answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything.  The answer was spat out thousands of years later as, "42".

The realization being they didn't actually know what the question was.  So, the Earth was built to discover that.  The question ended up being, "What do you get when you multiply six by nine."

It was cited as the genesis for every fundamental issue in the universe really.  It's by Douglas Adams.  It comes highly recommended.  And don't worry, it's not nearly as cerebral as reading posts like this might lead you to believe I would frequent. 

But enough on that here.
-=]DeatH1337[=-
Member
+51|5753|England
43 ?
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|5826|67.222.138.85

Alexanderthegrape wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Alexanderthegrape wrote:

The " greatest generation " looks at ours with justifiable contempt.
In the days after Pearl Harbor there were lines at the recruiting stations. In the days after 9-11 there were mostly anti-war protests.
     I own a small business and have to try really hard to find motivated caucasions to work. They pay is excellent with my best guy making over 1k per week. He is also an illegal alien.
    WTF can I say.



I vote;
POST OF THE DAY!
I vote post of about the last month.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
But, your going to make a flaming egomaniac out of Puck.
That's true, he'd never make something like this again.
Puck, this piece of trash needs to be thrown into the fiery depths of hell, and you with it.
PuckMercury
6 x 9 = 42
+298|5647|Portland, OR USA
my humblest apologies.

I will not trouble the likes of this forum with such meaningless, trite, dribble in the future.  I can only hope we can grow to forget about this horrible incident.

;-)
ATG
Banned
+5,233|5649|Global Command

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Alexanderthegrape wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

I vote post of about the last month.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
But, your going to make a flaming egomaniac out of Puck.
That's true, he'd never make something like this again.
Puck, this piece of trash needs to be thrown into the fiery depths of hell, and you with it.
Your asking for it, you tool.
You should ask specialistx2324 how he feels after a mindless personal attack on a Ninja.
Puck, you want me to call a whacking?

Last edited by Alexanderthegrape (2006-07-24 18:04:28)

AlbertWesker[RE]
Not Human Anymore
+144|5764|Seattle, WA

AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

AlbertWesker[RE] wrote:

I agree with everything in your post m8....however....what is this 42 business....6x9= 42 (ummm 54).  Please elaborate. 
He's referring to the joke that the meaning of life is 42, I believe.
Hitchiker quote?
Good stuff  heh, i know the series, book, and new movie (not so good)....but still funny stuff.
PuckMercury
6 x 9 = 42
+298|5647|Portland, OR USA

Alexanderthegrape wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Alexanderthegrape wrote:


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
But, your going to make a flaming egomaniac out of Puck.
That's true, he'd never make something like this again.
Puck, this piece of trash needs to be thrown into the fiery depths of hell, and you with it.
Your asking for it, you tool.
You should ask specialistx2324 how he feels after a mindless personal attack on a Ninja.
Puck, you want me to call a whacking?
lol

no no, no need.  It was in purely good humor and in the sincerest sarcasm possible.

Appreciated gesture, though

rofl
spastic bullet
would like to know if you are on crack
+77|5660|vancouver
Um, what was the question?
PuckMercury
6 x 9 = 42
+298|5647|Portland, OR USA
<squints to read forum title>  ^^^^

"Retarded ... "

Oh, now I get it.

Last edited by PuckMercury (2006-07-24 18:12:13)

The_Mob_Returns
Member
+72|5841|Indianapolis, IN
Okay, Back on topic to the original post.

That was an excellant post, puck.  I was just talking about this same sort of idea with a friend the other day.  And we agreed that if America, or most of the rest of the world for that matter, were faced with a terrible tragedy that we would not know how to cope with it.  Americans, I speak from this perspective because I am one, look for the easy way out of every situation so if push comes to shove, I do not believe America would be ready.  But the small things that occur that are tragic slowly help, not that they are good, lead us to a state of more awareness.  9/11 would be an example of a tragic event leading us to learn more about our weaknesses and to push forward to a state where we can deal with hardships better.  Although, we have not had anything since, thankfully, so we are slowly edging back into a state of not caring. 
It was the alertness to the situations around that generation that prompted them to better understand how to cope with those times.  We do not have that awareness now and that will cost us down the road.

Anyways, great post again puck, this is just my two cents worth.

TMR

Last edited by The_Mob_Returns (2006-07-24 18:13:36)

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