BF2S Forums DAO-12 the new Noobtube?

Jebus. At this rate knife and pistol servers are the only fair servers. Or is the MEC knife 1 inch longer? MEC PADDERS? Is the silenced pistol imba? SILENCED PISTOL WHORES.

Jesus. if you're going to bitch about every single weapon you get killed by regularly, we'll all be figting bare handed. Or is that even unfair cuz the yanks are stronger than the chinese..

I'm a pistol first ATer. I like the DAO, although I still believe a different unlock (a P90, or some sort of basic assault rifle) would be better. If any class deserves an DAO (with Jackhammer damage), it would be the engineer.


I'd love to see the look on my opponets face when he has to pull his pistol because is main weapon is empty and I'm whipping out my DAO.

yeah the DAO is way overpowered, I shot 2 blasts into a medic wielding the infamous L8 and I died instead. Yeah, your a moron,  it's mostly the player, not the weapon.  Even though I do have to say it doesn't take much aiming/skill/tactic to use the 203, I hate it because I get hit everytime with it, the bunny-hopping-dolphin-diving-M203-nader is the only thing that pisses me off to the full extent because I wish I could do that. I wish I could go around and kill everyone and not get hurt and get high scores and tell everyone that I owned them, in my own asshole-I'm better than you-can't touch this-wish you could be me-kind of way.

imdead wrote:

yeah the DAO is way overpowered, I shot 2 blasts into a medic wielding the infamous L8 and I died instead.

CQC only, and only 2 blasts, even up close and personal you should be looking to hit him with at least 4-5, make sure he's down and out, poke him with a stick if in doubt

the_heart_attack says "this has got to be the stupidest thing ever....complaining that the guns are now an impliment of noob death"

I hear when the new patch comes out, all guns are banned and we have to use feathers.... then it would be, who's feather is biggest

Those who hate the DAO-12 are the ones that charge in around corners and are constantly in CQC.

Those that don't hate the DAO-12 are the ones that pick off AT people from a distance (Long to Medium range)

Its the difference between gunho charging tactics and flanking/covering tactics.

As I play AT quite a bit I see no huge benefit from the DAO-12 outside CQC. If I am doing my job as an AT and taking out vehicles and not playing Assault Marine as an AT Kit, then it is perfectly reasonable.

Yes the DAO-12 is DEADLY in CQC. Outside that it's useless. I use my pistol quite a bit as AT because of the range limits of the DAO-12. And yes I do use my SRAW against infantry from time to time at Long range, esspecially snipers.

I personally would rather deal with the hopping DAOer. At least there's a good chance of killing him as medic with AK101.

What I can't stand is that assault I just got 4 confirmations on turning around and throwing that toob in the face. Insta death, no counter.

Metaltop wrote:

Too make a long story short unforgiven5150, lots of people don't agree with you.

And I'm OK with that. I'm not one of those that needs to start a flame war or personal attack someone because they don't. Although it seems like some people here need to.

schuff wrote:

Also your last paragraph is horrid. What you are saying is keep the GL BECAUSE no team points? wtf.  You just removed the usefulness of the G3 with that argument.  Why not balance both the GL and team points for Assault then? Maybe different changes. Its OK to change a weapon/vehicle in the game. ITS OK.

OK maybe my English aint that good but anyway... Yeap I guess I didnt rly think about ppl who use G3 alot (I dont like it, just cant hit more than 2 persons before reloading). Sorry about that. But anyway, lets say that you are a medic. In one round (Sharqi for example. Not Karkand, because everyone will think about n00b tubing) you got KD 5:15 and you still got the first place. And an assault guy, who is on foot, not flying and not in the tank, managed to get KD 30:6. He took off 6 time more tickets from the enemy than medic guy did. But he got 2nd place. Why? Because all what medic was doing (not ALL MEDICS! DONT TALK ABOUT KITS DISCRIMINATION!) is just running around, revive teammate infront of the enemy and then both of them (medic and teammate) dies. Result 2 tickets less instead of 1. So medic is reviving like this is the only one thing left in his life, gets 55+ teamwork points and thats it. Assault guy on the city map can manage max 15-20 teampoints. He just cant capture all flags alone. So he should rack up points by getting kills. Thats where GL comes out. Sure its stupid when assault guy is running around with GL only. I'm usually an assault not because of GL, but mostly because of body armor. (kinda cant sit in one placa longer than 2 minutes). And for me GL is not a primary, its a secondary weapon. I shoot first, GL later.

So, when I said that ea should keep GL because of no team, my point wasnt about gameplay balance. At this point I must admit that assault might be a little overpowered. But GL is making balance in points, not in gameplay. (you can get easy GL points alot [plz dont say n00b tube]). I play for fun, so I dont really care about points, but most ppl do.

As you said, why not balance both the GL and team points for Assault then? Hmmm, I was thinking about it lately. But I cant find a free aspect in the game from what you can manage a teamwork points system for an assault. REVIVE WITH A GL, ROFL . So, if you make GL less powerful, assault speciality will be just body armor. Then why to play as an assault. Its better to be a support guy (+ body armor, unlimited ammo + PKM, which is almost equal to G3 or even better). I know that alot of people play assault because of GL. But if you call anyone a n00b tuber, just look at his KD ratio in this round. D>K usually. Its because you have to learn when to use GL. As I said before in other posts using GL to kill ONE person on foot, its just a waste of GL rounds and time. I will not talk about methods of using GL, they can vary from one situation to another.

So afterall, the only way, that I see, to balance GL and teampoints is no, not give teampoints for an assault. The better way to balance points for an assault kit is to get rid of GL or make it less powerful, but give to assault a 3 points for kill instead of two. That seems fair to me. But as you can see than ppl will stop complain about GL, but will start complain about the points. I'm not against complaining, I guess I'm just that type of person, and if I got killed I look at my own mistakes first, instead of complaining about n00bs who killed you.

So if you would like to change GL in this game you should give to an assault more possibilities to kill and to score (3 points per kill, or 5 poins per 2 kills or sumpting like that). That were my reasons when I wrote my prev. post. And also I must say that EA tried to balance scoring first, gameplay second. (IMHO).

P.S. DONT TAKE IT PERSONAL. NO OFFENCE.
It will be interesting to read your responds

GL HF

Last edited by Dr.Battlefield (2005-11-21 11:25:24)