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Which ROE is better?

Original23%23% - 9
My one?76%76% - 30
Total: 39
JaM3z
Banned
+311|6718
So here is the original ROE:

Indian Scout from Default">http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthre … 75]Default ROE 7/20/2006 Update


The following are the official Rules Of Engagement for Battlefield 2 and supercede any you may have read prior to this date. This announcement will be duplicated across all EA Battlefield outlets and as such are the only official outlets for rule updates and modifications. Any changes to the Rules Of Engagement will be made simultaneously across official channels.

RULES OF ENGAGEMENT (ROE)

RANKED SERVERS – AN OVERVIEW
The ranked server program and ranking system introduced by DICE and EA for Battlefield 2 is designed to promote a system of statistics gathering and rewards for BF2 players on a level playing field in which players can expect the same standard configuration and playing environment on any ranked server they play on. These standards are achieved and maintained by ensuring that all server providers and server administrators are abiding by a common set of rules as determined by EA.

1. RULES AND POLICIES FOR TRUSTED PARTNERS / SERVER HOST PROVIDERS
Dice and EA are limiting trusted server software distribution to our network of Trusted Partners in order to protect the integrity of the code system. We want everyone to be able to play Ranked Servers if they choose. It is imperative that all of these Rules and Policies be adhered to in order to create a level playing field for everyone.

1.1 Server Configuration

1.1.1 Ranked Servers have a number of settings hard-coded so that users cannot adjust them. These settings are all set as below to keep the competition on Ranked servers balanced across all providers:

minPlayers: 16+ (minimum server size is 16 players)

sv.password = “” (empty string - Ranked servers may not be password protected. Ranked servers are intended to be available to all players.)

sv.numPlayersNeededToStart = (6 for 16-31 maxPlayers, 10 for 32-64)

sv.spawnTime 15

sv.manDownTime 15

sv.ticketRatio 100

sv.teamRatioPercent 100

sv.punkBuster 1

1.1.2 Though it is not required, we also request that all servers run Friendly Fire at 100% for all settings, including mines (sv.friendlyFireWithMines).

1.2 Server Content

1.2.1 Ranked servers must be entirely "pure" with no customization outside of the default content shipped by DICE/EA. Ranked servers are not allowed to run customised games or Mods, as we cannot ensure the balance of these components.

1.2.2 Whenever there is a new patch released Ranked Partners are required to upgrade their servers.

Ranked servers are not to run upcoming content early nor out of date content.

1.3 Server Access

1.3.1 BF2CC may be used to access and adjust server settings not defined above but hosts must be able to demonstrate that the ranked server code is secure – no FTP access or other direct access to the files is allowed.

1.4 Maps

1.4.1 Custom maps are never permitted on ranked servers, although we do permit map sizes to be defined independently of maximum players.

2. RULES AND POLICIES FOR ALL SERVER ADMINISTRATORS MANAGING RANKED SERVERS (PUBLIC OR PRIVATE)
These are rules and policies that all people running ranked servers are expected to observe. Failure to do so can result in the server being delisted.

2.1 Copyright Infringements and Advertising

2.1.1 Server Administrators may not arrange for the exchange or transfer of any pirated software, distribution of copyrighted software or CD keys or other contraband while on any Ranked Servers.

2.1.2 Server Administrators may not market, promote or advertise other services or products on any ranked servers (excluding trusted partners and in game server messages).

2.2 Game Setting Changes

2.2.1 Server Administrators may not change any server settings preset by EA (as listed above).

2.2.2 Server Administrators may not load up custom maps or modifications to Ranked Servers.

2.2.3 TK Punish must be active (i.e. not “off”), but can be set to automatically punish or to allow players to punish/forgive by voting.

2.3 “In-House” Ranked Server Rules

Public Ranked Servers and Private rented clan servers may introduce custom rules that apply only to their servers and which result in minor changes to gameplay. These “in-house” rules are allowed as long as they do not violate the conditions of use of a ranked server as determined by DICE and EA and as long as they are explicitly announced in the server description or on the loading screen, so that players joining the server are aware of them before they start playing.

2.3.1 Disallowed “In-House” Ranked Server Rules:

Server Administrators may not implement or enforce server rules on ranked servers that prohibit players from using any roles, kits, weapons, vehicles or other features of the game while playing on their server. Examples of such rules that would violate the conditions of use are:

(a) Preventing any players from being Commander or Squad Leaders.

(b) Preventing any players from using certain vehicles such as jets, helicopters or tanks.

(c) Preventing any players from using commander assets (artillery, vehicle drop, UAV or scans).

(d) Preventing any players from using certain weapons or items (such as flashbangs or C4) or enforcing a “pistol only” or “knife only” server rule.

2.3.2 Allowed “In-House” Ranked Server Rules:

Server Administrators may implement and enforce rules that result in minor changes to gameplay behaviour or styles as long as these are clearly stated before a player starts playing on a server. These rules typically introduce minor restrictions on how a certain aspect of the game can be used.

Examples of such rules that are acceptable are:

(a) Players may not use explicit, offensive or racist language in-game.

(b) Players may not impersonate clan members or other server administrators.

(c) Players may not deliberately performing actions that hinder their own team (such as last-minute team-swapping to increase scores or statistics, excessive team-killing, destroying friendly vehicles, attacking team-mates,

deliberately placing themselves in a situation so they cause another player to team-kill them, using a vehicle while being the Commander that prevents them from performing any Commander functions (jet, etc.) or placing vehicles to block their own runways.

(d) Making attacks on enemy main bases (flags that cannot be captured), including artillery strikes, vehicle drops to block runways, bombing runs with aircraft or sustained infantry attacks. (Note that specific attacks targeting the enemy commander’s asset buildings are always allowed, even if they are within the enemy main base.)

(e) Using transport helicopters to quickly capture all flags with no attempt to engage the other team (flag hopping).

(f) Using C4 explosives on fast-moving vehicles to destroy other vehicles (C4-ramming)

(g) Ignoring requests from Server Administrators or abusing Server Administrators.

3. RULES AND POLICIES APPLYING TO ALL PLAYERS ON RANKED SERVERS.
The following rules are ones that players are expected to abide by while playing on ranked servers. Any use of third-party programs or game exploits not listed below should be reported through one of the channels listed below.

3.1 Use of Cheats or Hacks

3.1.1 Players may not change (hack) any core games files or effectively change game settings by employing external programs or cheats for the purposes of giving themselves an unfair advantage over other players. This would include but not limited to:

(a) *** and other 3rd party software.

(b) Modification of weapons code, aka Tank turrets exploit.

(c) CVAR hacks which would make players appear Neon

(d) CVAR hacks that let players see thru walls or buildings

(e) Mini-Map hack so all players are visible

(f) Modification of Player Names which would alter their size or colors.

3.2 Game Exploits

3.2.1 Players may not use or exploit game mechanisms to artificially boost their score ("stats padding") and Server administrators may not knowingly allow or encourage this activity on their servers.

This would include but not limited to:

(a) Using tag teams to take turns to kill and revive each other in turn (using knives, pistols, etc.)

(b) Playing on Knife and/or Pistol only Servers

(c) Playing on Knife only Servers

(d) Playing on “High Points” Servers

(e) Playing on “No Artillery” or “No Armour” Servers (except when using Infantry only server-side option)

(f) Using Vehicles removed from battlefield for purposes of artificially inflating points

(g) Turning boats upside down and constantly repairing them

(h) Glitching inside buildings (using building model glitches to attack out without risk of being hit).

4. REPORTING VIOLATIONS OF THE ROE

Anyone who observes violations of the ROE based upon server rules or player actions should report these violations (with screenshots) as soon as possible.

Any action taken against players or Server Administrators will be taken by EA and may include having ranked servers being delisted (unranked) or having player accounts reset to remove all global points and awards.

Violations (or suspected violations) can be reported to any of the following authorised groups:

EA Support: http://support.ea.com/

Punkbuster: Cheats, hacks or exploits can be reported to [email protected]

Also please be aware these new rules may come into force aswell

Indian Scout from Teamkilling">http://www.totalbf2.com/forums/showthre … eamkilling for vehicles and Teamkilling

(c) Players may not deliberately performing actions that hinder their own team (such as last-minute team-swapping to increase scores or statistics, excessive team-killing, destroying friendly vehicles, attacking team-mates,

Standing on the runway because you didnt get the aircraft

deliberately placing themselves in a situation so they cause another player to team-kill them, using a vehicle while being the Commander that prevents them from performing any Commander functions (jet, etc.) or placing vehicles to block their own runways.

Uncap attacks and cartillery

(d) Making attacks on enemy main bases (flags that cannot be captured), including artillery strikes, vehicle drops to block runways, bombing runs with aircraft or sustained infantry attacks. (Note that specific attacks targeting the enemy commander’s asset buildings are always allowed, even if they are within the enemy main base.)

(e) Using transport helicopters to quickly capture all flags with no attempt to engage the other team (flag hopping).

(f) Using C4 explosives on fast-moving vehicles to destroy other vehicles (C4-ramming)

(g) Ignoring requests from Server Administrators or abusing Server Administrators.


these rules changes may affect your style of play, and will give players the ability to report those players who want to disrupt normal game activities..

your thoughts??

Indian

Or my version:

JaM3z Simple ROE wrote:

§1.1 You may not arrange for the exchange or transfer of any pirated software or other contraband while you are on any Ranked Servers.

    * § This would include the copy and distribution of copyrighted software or cd-keys

Well that rule is pretty damn obvious

§1.2 You may not change (hack) any core games files, load into memory or employ external programs or cheats for the purposes of giving yourself an unfair advantage over other players.

This would include but not limited to:

    * § noobsville and other 3rd party software.
    * § Modification of weapons code, aka Tank turrets exploit.
    * § CVAR hacks which would make players appear Neon
    * § CVAR hacks that let players see thru walls or buildings
    * § Mini-Map hack so all players are visible
    * § Modification of Player Names which would alter their size or colors.
    * § Items not included in this list would be up to EA & DICE to interpret.

Well this is another obvious rule.

§1.3 Server administrators may not change any game settings defined as standard for ranked servers (ticket ratios, server password, round time, etc.)

This is pretty obvious already as server admins (like me) do not get FTP access to change this stuff.

§1.4 Server administrators may not enforce restrictions on roles or kits that players can use while on your server.

This would include but not limited to:

    * § Spec Ops
    * § Squad Leader
    * § Note.. Commander class can not be enforced

Pretty obvious again.....

§1.5 Players may not use or exploit game mechanisms to artificially boost their score ("stats padding") and Server administrators may not knowingly allow or encourage this activity on their servers.

This would include but not limited to:

    * § Knife-Pistol-Revive
    * § Knife-Pistol only Servers
    * § Knife only Servers
    * § High Points Servers
    * § Turning boats upside down and repairing
    * § Glitching inside buildings.
    * § Modifying game files for vehicles and weapons.

These are the only ones that need to be classed as stats padding.

This my friends is a simple ROE and if you break it down it goes like this.

No statspadding
No knife pistol servers
No high points servers
No hacking
No glitching buildings

5 simple rules.......................
Well in my version mods will be ranked and all other kinds of crap, what do you guys think?

EDIT 2:  The only reason to get your stats reset is if 100% proof that you where caught hacking.

Last edited by JaM3z (2006-07-20 16:08:41)

King_County_Downy
shitfaced
+2,791|6605|Seattle

Give me about 3 hours to read all that and I'll get back to you
Sober enough to know what I'm doing, drunk enough to really enjoy doing it
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|6770

I vote for yours.
diglow~Flow
Member
+32|6634|British Columbia, Canada
Original FTW lmao
liquidat0r
wtf.
+2,223|6635|UK

King_County_Downy wrote:

Give me about 3 hours to read all that and I'll get back to you
JaM3z
Banned
+311|6718

King_County_Downy wrote:

Give me about 3 hours to read all that and I'll get back to you
Makes a point about how long the original one is

Mine is basicly:

No statspadding
No knife pistol servers
No high points servers
No hacking
No glitching buildings
liquidat0r
wtf.
+2,223|6635|UK

JaM3z wrote:

No statspadding
No knife pistol servers
No high points servers
No hacking
No glitching buildings
aka BF2 Utopia
King_County_Downy
shitfaced
+2,791|6605|Seattle

JaM3z wrote:

King_County_Downy wrote:

Give me about 3 hours to read all that and I'll get back to you
Makes a point about how long the original one is

Mine is basicly:

No statspadding
No knife pistol servers
No high points servers
No hacking
No glitching buildings
Then yes, I like yours better.
Sober enough to know what I'm doing, drunk enough to really enjoy doing it
spawnofthemist
Banned
+1,128|6650|Burmecia, Land of the Rain
this'll probs be closed.. but yours looks a lot better than some of the stupider rules in the original..


a thought occurred to me..

BF 1942 was an awesome game.. really fun to play.. hours of replayability.. yet no ranking system..
my question.. could BF2 benefit from this?


but then i thought.. no stats.. = no point for bf2s.com

so.. no.




james ftw.
[n00b]Tyler
Banned
+505|6602|Iceland
i dont like the server setting ROE so: Your roe
BFROE|IndianScout
Member
+41|6520
you've pretty much copied mine, 

so how can you really vote between then,

you need to write one all your own instead of stealing mine...

nice try tho..looks good
[n00b]Tyler
Banned
+505|6602|Iceland

BFROE|IndianScout wrote:

you've pretty much copied mine, 

so how can you really vote between then,

you need to write one all your own instead of stealing mine...

nice try tho..looks good
how old are u?
just wondering
iPoon.be
Internet Poon
+145|6537|Belgium
I dont understand what is wrong with high points servers. I sometimes join 16/64 servers, just because i like to play long rounds (its also less chaotic, so my K/D is better on these servers)

Why would it be against ROE?

Also, i joined a server that didnt clearly state it was knife only, but in-game there was a knife-revive fest. Is that against the rules? Because its something the players of the servers decided, not the admins (there werent any)
JaM3z
Banned
+311|6718

BFROE|IndianScout wrote:

you've pretty much copied mine, 

so how can you really vote between then,

you need to write one all your own instead of stealing mine...

nice try tho..looks good
i have copied yours correct, except i trimmed away alot of fat and also said mods can be ranked blah blah and also infrantry only is not statspadding (it wont be after 1.4 anyway....)

And i have trimmed alot bassicly now the ROE would stand for these simple things:

No statspadding
No knife pistol servers
No high points servers
No hacking
No glitching buildings
Madhadda1
Member
+270|6553|Cedar Rapids, Iowa

BFROE|IndianScout wrote:

you've pretty much copied mine, 

so how can you really vote between then,

you need to write one all your own instead of stealing mine...

nice try tho..looks good
https://foros.riff-fanzine.com/images/smiles/stupidpost.gif
lol im sorry i need to get a laugh somewhere

special thanks to ipoon for giving me this idea

Last edited by Madhadda1 (2006-07-20 14:57:27)

jord
Member
+2,382|6686|The North, beyond the wall.
You may not arrange for the exchange or transfer of any pirated software or other contraband while you are on any Ranked Servers.

    * § This would include the copy and distribution of copyrighted software or cd-keys

Why not James?
dop3man
I'm your pusher
+9|6745|yorkshire penisula
yours.
Madhadda1
Member
+270|6553|Cedar Rapids, Iowa

jord wrote:

You may not arrange for the exchange or transfer of any pirated software or other contraband while you are on any Ranked Servers.

    * § This would include the copy and distribution of copyrighted software or cd-keys

Why not James?
roe means "rules of engagment" aka rules of fighting in a server so i guess this wouldnt fall under that catagory but good idea they probably have it somewhere...
JaM3z
Banned
+311|6718

jord wrote:

You may not arrange for the exchange or transfer of any pirated software or other contraband while you are on any Ranked Servers.

    * § This would include the copy and distribution of copyrighted software or cd-keys

Why not James?
EA could get sued for it, think about it if you went into a BF2 game and spammed the chat with windows XP codes...... do you think microsoft would like that?

Its kind of a way for EA to cover there ass's......
doc. josh
Member
+48|6553
yours is better then the currupt ea's version
Citizen One
한국 공주
+338|6657|South Korea.
Yours.
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6683|Canberra, AUS
I want a 'neither' vote. I can't see any significant difference between them.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
JaM3z
Banned
+311|6718

Spark wrote:

I want a 'neither' vote. I can't see any significant difference between them.
Mine will let mods be ranked, infrantry only be not considerd stats padding, and also alot of other stuff

I just trimmed away all the crap from the original.
ericcartmanisbest
Member
+24|6548|GREAT Britain
how about no fucking roe at all
JaM3z
Banned
+311|6718

ericcartmanisbest wrote:

how about no fucking roe at all
as much as this would be a good idea, that would mean you would still have hackers and it would all be perfectly legal.....

o yeah and in mine no one gets stats reset, unles caught 100% proof of hacking, that is the only reason for a reset

Last edited by JaM3z (2006-07-20 15:16:39)

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