BF2S Forums Is America Doomed? U.S Vs China

China is on the up at an incredible rate. Its eating all the steel. We've yet to see a shadow of what China will become.

Cactusfist wrote:

China is on the up at an incredible rate. Its eating all the steel. We've yet to see a shadow of what China will become.

true but energy demands aroudn the world are growing. China is consuming too much water as it is and if it wants to be a superpower it needs to learn to support itselfs on its own resources b/c i'm not seeing much for the future. Pretty soon Isaac Asimov's science fiction tales will come true

how can china fight they seem to be blind

bf2 chatter?

mod please move this

China isn't really that great, all they do is make ps2's and psp's...

dubbs wrote:

There are somethings that the US Armed Forces have that we have not even heard of yet.  The reason that most of the US weapons are known is because we create a lot of them with other nations, like the UK.  Remember that the U2 was not known for about 10 years.  Also, the F117 was not known for about 10 years also. 

From the research that I did, it was not much, China makes everyone that may potentially join a univeristy has to take military training.  This would make their numbers larger then the standing US Armed Forces.  The US Army is 1.4 million strong, and the PLA is only 2.25 million strong.  The US is ranked second, behind China, as having the most active troops in the military. 

You should also take in consideration on how many battle tested soliders each army has.  China has not had a major war since 1979 (which only lasted one month and was backed by the US), they did have border skirmishes with Vietnam in 1986 and 88.  The US has been fighting a two front war since 2003. 

Another thing, just as if China attacked the Aussies, all of their allies will help in the fight.  This would be the same with the US if China attacked.  I am for sure that the UK, and Aussies would help us out if China tried to attack the US.

PS: I do not know what Asian kid you are talking about, if anyone knows about it can you all explain more.

There tends to be a Chinese prodigy in schools.

My schools has 5. All got 11 A*s and at least 4 As at A level. Plus they neever miss a deadline, due to an ncredible work ethic.

who do you think put the f22 info out there?

Aust1mh wrote:

I've seen a bit of American pride lately, nothin' wrong with that... but when i saw "You'll bitches to America" on another thread i started to think about that.

LOL, not just American pride!  I've noticed a lot of pride on these boards from several fronts, and the top two that I see the most is American and British.  Anyways, I haven't found the other thread you're talking about.

Aust1mh wrote:

With 2 hundred thousand troops over seas, the U.S government was talking about making service to the military a requirement due to shortages. feels like the U.S has lost their power if they need to start forcing their own people to war.

Honestly, it's all about politics.  Years back, the US had many more troops than our current number.  However, with the threat of war typically distant back then, and a higher concern with the "cold war", a lot of military budget cuts were implemented to reduce the number of soldiers when the cold war more or less ended, and quite likely devoted to higher technological advancements in military equipment.

However, since 9-11, recruitment for the military has definitely increased, and I know some volunteers were actually turned away (usually medical reasons).  Enough to suffice?  Depends.  I'm sure if there was a need to make service in the military a requirement, it'd probably have be done already.  It's been a topic of debate since the first war in Iraq, and it hasn't changed to my knowledge.  Don't get me wrong, but if it had to go to that extreme, it'd probably be done.

Aust1mh wrote:

China has millions of troops, they have nukes and hi tech jets as well (so hi tech we don't know about them)... when (Not If) China starts using their power to "reclaim" lost territory, will the U.S be willing or able to stop them? This kinda has meaning for me as I'm an Australian living so close to China.

To my knowledge, China and the US are concerned about each others military capability, but both are also concerned with their own well-being enough to realize that not just any small reason for war is in their best interests.

Also, much of China's technology is based on Russian technology.  I do not doubt that there is secretive technology that China wants to keep secret, however, the US having secretive technology is gonna be without a doubt, as well.

Aust1mh wrote:

F-22 info all over the net, little to nothing about all of China's tech.

Finding information on the internet for the F-22 is not typically gonna result in "how the technology" works, or how it can be countered, versus the hypothetical capabilities of the aircraft.

Aust1mh wrote:

Remember that 1 Asian kid in high school that made us all look like tards, try fighting millions of them.

Hmm... nope don't remember the kid that you speak of.  However, remember that stereotypes are just that, stereotypes.  I can think of many other Asian stereotypes that would contradict you're hypothetical situation.  Stereotypes that would make me not worry about fighting against millions of them.

I'm not gonna be a fool to fall into that style of thinking, however.

Aust1mh wrote:

Obesity is a big problem thats only getting bigger in the U.S, not a problem at all in China.

LOL, possibly true.  However, I've heard that China is having the opposite problem.  Not getting enough food to their huge population easily.

Aust1mh wrote:

not ever terrorist have the stones to attack China, American "HomeGrown Terrorist" plan to attack their own country.

Don't fall into what is in the media as being the standard, or what is "true."  Every country needs to deal with possible dissension amongst a few of their own people, and China is without exception.  Likewise, China is not unfamiliar to terrorism, and most terrorists probably aren't concerned with the repercussions of their actions with their own fanatical beliefs taking higher priority.

Aust1mh wrote:

in the next big war.... who will win??

Let's hope we never find out, because the biggest, and baddest weapons available to the world now are more than enough to end the existence of everybody, on every side.

I have a feeling that China will follow the same line of thinking.  Afterall, it all comes down to the need to survive.

Depends on who wins the economic game, were all tied together now & if America went down everywhere else would be affected, the Chinese will wait until they have a winning hand then go all in,we will be there to call the bluff.

glad to see the great military minds of BF2 are discussing China vs U.S. ... a few things no one has discussed however is projection of military force.  Carriers, forward based equipment, intelligence, ICBM's, homeland defenses, troop strenghts and readiness.  Very few things anyone know about.  Whens the last time any of you were part of red flag or and readiness inspection or even read about one.

i do think about it, especially since i am prior service, but the reality of it actually scares the living hell out of me... neither side will win, or at least not people like us.

smtt686 wrote:

glad to see the great military minds of BF2 are discussing China vs U.S. ... a few things no one has discussed however is projection of military force.  Carriers, forward based equipment, intelligence, ICBM's, homeland defenses, troop strenghts and readiness.  Very few things anyone know about.  Whens the last time any of you were part of red flag or and readiness inspection or even read about one. ....

Hmm... any current/prior military that decides to post on this thread, and discuss possible "carriers, forward based equipment, intelligence, ICBM's, homeland defenses, troop strenghts and readiness" should keep it to themselves.  There's no point in "tipping one's hand to the other card players", especially on an open forum like this one.  I would hope that such "military minds" (especially "US military minds"... ) understand this as well.

smtt686 wrote:

.... i do think about it, especially since i am prior service, but the reality of it actually scares the living hell out of me... neither side will win, or at least not people like us.

It is scary to think about the "evil" side of reality, and most people on the internet are lucky enough to not experience this "dark side of life" in person.

puckmercury wrote:

You fell victim to one of history's most classic blunders.  The most famous of which is, "Never get involved in a land war in Asia."  But, only slightly lesser known is this, "Never go in against a Cicilian when DEATH is on the line!"   HAhahahah, hahahahaha, hahaha-

+1 to the first to identify.

"This word you say, I do not think it means, what you think it means"

The Princess Bride

Right back at ya puckmercury!