Dog shit on a summer day looks like a snickers bar though.gburndred wrote:
Why are people saying amd.
Wait for conroe and it will make amd look like dog shit on a hot summer day.
Search in google and find the benchmarks, conroe beat amd on every test and conroe also set some world records.
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I guess it's due togburndred wrote:
Why are people saying amd.
a) people don't know Intel's Core 2 / Conroe
b) AMD Fanboys
Ok, so minus conroe, Intel has nothing on AMD.fierce wrote:
I guess it's due togburndred wrote:
Why are people saying amd.
a) people don't know Intel's Core 2 / Conroe
b) AMD Fanboys
Not to mention Intel rebranding, renaming and reworking off their sockets. They're like troubled teenagers who can't figure out who they are.
Oh, and conroe isn't even out yet. While soon, no guarantees folks.
Until it is, AMD FTW.
And what do you think when AMD comes out with something to compete with Conroe? AMD has never failed in smashing Intel back into the ground. Just like nVidia and ATi.
Well I cant remember a Intel CPU wich performs better than any AMD CPU in games, ever!
So most of the people have said conroe, ok if you wanna spend f*cking 1.000 Bucks for a CPU there you go. Some people said DX 10.0 cards, yeah, there you go again, spend f*cking 600 Bucks for a GPU. The performance advantage of this ub3r highend machine will last for around 6 month, and then someone will come around with a CPU clocking 5 GhZ or a Videocard with 2GB RAM and the guys in here will say, yeah, thats it, go for this stuff!
I dont know how much money you´ll spend on your rig cougar, but honestly, is there a use for always hunting for the newest shit out there, I dont think so.
And for my part, I own four systems atm with parts from low-end (AMD64 3200+, FX5950Ultra etc) to high.end (AMD FX63, QuadSLI etc) and it I run all games in good settings so they are fun to play.
If you go with an actual Intel or AMD CPU, a good GF7900 GT(X) or Radeon X1900XT(X) you´ll be absolutley able to play outstanding games like Crysis and stuff in high settings too, even in next generation games.
So most of the people have said conroe, ok if you wanna spend f*cking 1.000 Bucks for a CPU there you go. Some people said DX 10.0 cards, yeah, there you go again, spend f*cking 600 Bucks for a GPU. The performance advantage of this ub3r highend machine will last for around 6 month, and then someone will come around with a CPU clocking 5 GhZ or a Videocard with 2GB RAM and the guys in here will say, yeah, thats it, go for this stuff!
I dont know how much money you´ll spend on your rig cougar, but honestly, is there a use for always hunting for the newest shit out there, I dont think so.
And for my part, I own four systems atm with parts from low-end (AMD64 3200+, FX5950Ultra etc) to high.end (AMD FX63, QuadSLI etc) and it I run all games in good settings so they are fun to play.
If you go with an actual Intel or AMD CPU, a good GF7900 GT(X) or Radeon X1900XT(X) you´ll be absolutley able to play outstanding games like Crysis and stuff in high settings too, even in next generation games.
Conroe will be out in 8 days... search for the benchmarks, the production line is stepping 5 or 6, rev b1 or b2, which is better than the engineering sampleDefiance wrote:
Ok, so minus conroe, Intel has nothing on AMD.fierce wrote:
I guess it's due togburndred wrote:
Why are people saying amd.
a) people don't know Intel's Core 2 / Conroe
b) AMD Fanboys
Not to mention Intel rebranding, renaming and reworking off their sockets. They're like troubled teenagers who can't figure out who they are.
Oh, and conroe isn't even out yet. While soon, no guarantees folks.
Until it is, AMD FTW.
And what do you think when AMD comes out with something to compete with Conroe? AMD has never failed in smashing Intel back into the ground. Just like nVidia and ATi.
to fon slayer: conroe doesnt cost 1000 bucks... thats extreme edition... a 300 bucks conroe outperforms the 1000 dollar FX60 and consumes less power.
to defiance: stop being an AMD fanboy... conroe is kicking AMD's ass and you know it, and amd has nothing to go up against it, K8L? kentsfield is gonna own that...
AMD has nothing to compete with Conroe until 2007/2008. 4x4 isn't going to be a competitor simply because of it's price (4x4 = Dual Mobo -> e.g. 2 FX-62). And 4x4 works only if there are Multithreaded applications. As we all know, games are single threaded.And what do you think when AMD comes out with something to compete with Conroe? AMD has never failed in smashing Intel back into the ground.
There are dozen of benchmarks of the new Conroe core, this processor overpowers the AMD in every game/application. And your 1000 Bucks statement shows, that you're not very well informed about the Conroe slayer. For example the E6600 costs 316$ and is as fast as the 1000$ processor FX-62.Well I cant remember a Intel CPU wich performs better than any AMD CPU in games, ever!
I honestly can't understand why someone should buy an AMD processor if there's Intel's Core 2. Ohhhh wait, maybe i can:
fierce wrote:
I guess it's due togburndred wrote:
Why are people saying amd.
a) people don't know Intel's Core 2 / Conroe
b) AMD Fanboys
Last edited by fierce (2006-07-19 01:23:40)
effing fanboys...
well, lets wait and see how the core 2 duo performs in real benchmarks and customer rigs when its released. All benchmarks known yet are released by Intel, even those of THG, but for shure they look promising.
Im a AMD fanboy, although I was Intel user a long time. I think AMD will strike back hard and fast!
Im a AMD fanboy, although I was Intel user a long time. I think AMD will strike back hard and fast!
err no... not all of the rigs were intel controlled, a lot of ppl on VRforums have custom conroe rigs... and by the looks of it conroe can overclock like hell.fon|sl4y3r wrote:
well, lets wait and see how the core 2 duo performs in real benchmarks and customer rigs when its released. All benchmarks known yet are released by Intel, even those of THG, but for shure they look promising.
Im a AMD fanboy, although I was Intel user a long time. I think AMD will strike back hard and fast!
Maybe the ones months ago, but the recently released Benchmarks are all done by websites/magazines themselfs and the Benchmarks all show the same result. Conroe wasting AMDs high end processors.fon|sl4y3r wrote:
well, lets wait and see how the core 2 duo performs in real benchmarks and customer rigs when its released. All benchmarks known yet are released by Intel, even those of THG, but for shure they look promising.
And as for the real benchmarks, what's unreal if they test games like BF2, Farcry, HalfLife 2 or applications like WinRar, MS Office, iTunes etc.?
Yeah, you're a fanboy fon|sl4y3r *slap slap*
maybe I´m completly wrong on this, but I´ve heard that those core 2 duo´s only was prototypes or preseries chips.
Well I know a intel insider who owns a Core 2 duo E6700 with nearly the same settings as my AMD64 4000+ but only 2096MB RAM and 7900GTX instead of 4Gigs and dual 7900GTX like mine. There is a performance and speed advantage, thats for shure, fact his CPU is overclocked, I believe to 2.9 GHz mine is 2.6 clocked but the diffrence while gaming F.E.A.R in 1600x1200 ultrahighsettings is 7-10 FPS. Loadingtime is no diffrence at all.
And yeah, I´m talking about my 4000+ not the FX one.
I´ll ask the guy about all his settings and hardware though.
Well I know a intel insider who owns a Core 2 duo E6700 with nearly the same settings as my AMD64 4000+ but only 2096MB RAM and 7900GTX instead of 4Gigs and dual 7900GTX like mine. There is a performance and speed advantage, thats for shure, fact his CPU is overclocked, I believe to 2.9 GHz mine is 2.6 clocked but the diffrence while gaming F.E.A.R in 1600x1200 ultrahighsettings is 7-10 FPS. Loadingtime is no diffrence at all.
And yeah, I´m talking about my 4000+ not the FX one.
I´ll ask the guy about all his settings and hardware though.
how many people on here saying get conroe because it kills any amd are running a current pentium proc? why the hell did you buy that piece of crap when a much lower priced AMD will stomp it in the ground
Intelfanboys
AMD fanboy my ass. I currently have an intel p4 3 ghz, OCd to 3.4.cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
to defiance: stop being an AMD fanboy... conroe is kicking AMD's ass and you know it, and amd has nothing to go up against it, K8L? kentsfield is gonna own that...
I've never owned an AMD of any fashion.
But AMD, in the same sense as nvidia, is better then Intel.
I'm not going to recommend something to someone that 1) Isn't even out yet and 2) will be obsolete in a few months.
I'm going to revise my list to include an AM2 chipset. Why? Because there's support for current procs, and the procs that are going to beat conroe.
Sorry, it's a fact of the computer industry. Always has, always will happen.
If all you can complain about is fanboyism, reorganize your case.
Last edited by Defiance (2006-07-19 03:20:02)
while a much much lower priced conroe stomped an FX60jaymz9350 wrote:
how many people on here saying get conroe because it kills any amd are running a current pentium proc? why the hell did you buy that piece of crap when a much lower priced AMD will stomp it in the ground
defience: ur talking about conroe being obselete in a few months... current AMD cpu's are obselete right now... even AM2 doesnt show much performance gain unless u buy uber expensive ram.
K8L is only on paper, AMD got no working engineering sample right now, how can u justify that getting AM2 now and buying K8L since it supports it? AM2 CPU's lost every benchmark to conroe.
to fon: about the 1600x1200 resolution... when resolutions go that high the bottleneck is the gpu, not the cpu. and core 2 duo are not prototypes right now... they were 3 months ago. 1 thing really great about core 2 duo cpus: they can overclock like hell, AMD cpus cant overclock high... their limit is around 3ghz while conroes can go to 5 ghz
Last edited by cyborg_ninja-117 (2006-07-19 03:46:44)
You all know that AMD will obviously have a rival for the core 2 Intel coming out soonish because they won't just let AMD drive them out of the water...it's just a matter of when.
you mean intel...james@alienware wrote:
You all know that AMD will obviously have a rival for the core 2 Intel coming out soonish because they won't just let AMD drive them out of the water...it's just a matter of when.
ok heres amd cpu road map
2007 65nm cpus
2008 K8L
heres intels
2007 45nm conroe
2008 nelahem
2009 32nm nalahem
Yeh i ment that
i'm not debating that fact. just out of curiosity what system do you run now?cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
while a much much lower priced conroe stomped an FX60jaymz9350 wrote:
how many people on here saying get conroe because it kills any amd are running a current pentium proc? why the hell did you buy that piece of crap when a much lower priced AMD will stomp it in the ground
Easily shows that AMD got a new architecture in 2008, not earlier. You're not able to make huge steps only with changing the productionprocess to 65nm.cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
ok heres amd cpu road mapjames@alienware wrote:
You all know that AMD will obviously have a rival for the core 2 Intel coming out soonish because they won't just let AMD drive them out of the water...it's just a matter of when.
2007 65nm cpus
2008 K8L
heres intels
2007 45nm conroe
2008 nelahem
2009 32nm nalahem
I got the Overclockers dream Pentium D 805. It's originally clocked to 2,66 GHz, i got mine running on 3,6 GHz (on Air). Newegg got this chip for ~115$. Best price/performance you can get right now.how many people on here saying get conroe because it kills any amd are running a current pentium proc?
AM2 is a joke, it got an unbelievable and incredible performance gain by 1% over comparable AMD processors.even AM2 doesnt show much performance gain unless u buy uber expensive ram.
Wait and see, mark my words
it was never meant to be a performance increase. AM2 was only released because oem's pushed for it so they didn't have to carry ddr mem just for the few amd's anyone offersfierce wrote:
AM2 is a joke, it got an unbelievable and incredible performance gain by 1% over comparable AMD processors.
Well, we'll just to annoy you. Especially when you're going to buy your Core 2.fon|sl4y3r wrote:
Wait and see, mark my words
Wait and see, mark my words
intel 3.0ghz, was planning on getting AM2, but then came along conroe, i used AMD systems b4, they were better than intel i will say, but conroe changed thatjaymz9350 wrote:
i'm not debating that fact. just out of curiosity what system do you run now?cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
while a much much lower priced conroe stomped an FX60jaymz9350 wrote:
how many people on here saying get conroe because it kills any amd are running a current pentium proc? why the hell did you buy that piece of crap when a much lower priced AMD will stomp it in the ground
AM2 was just AMD going to DDR2, but what AMD has yet to realise that their IMC cannot handle high lantecies of DDR2, so some companies introduced cas 3 DDR2 800mhz ram... which costs 400+ usd for 2gb while ddr2 800 cas 4 costs 200...
so your telling people they are stupid to consider AMD now when the intels will beat them but like i said before you spent more money on a crappier cpu that you have now? kinda like the pot calling the kettle black if you ask me.cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
intel 3.0ghz, was planning on getting AM2, but then came along conroe, i used AMD systems b4, they were better than intel i will say, but conroe changed that