spastic bullet
would like to know if you are on crack
+77|6728|vancouver

PekkaA wrote:

spastic bullet wrote:

PekkaA wrote:

We have our fair share of vietnamese and somalis etc if that's your stinging remark.
I'm just buggin' ya, guy.  Don't be so sensitive.    I understand Espoo is quite diverse, no?  Anyway, I just insulted your language on another thread, so keep up!
I forgot from my post. Where that Espoo came from? If you keep insulting me, we'd better swap to german.
I kind of doubted you were genuinely offended.  Espoo, I mentioned because I had occasion to meet several people from there last year, and only a few of them were ethnic Finns.  In hindsight, I don't know if that means I can extrapolate a general diversity, but that was my "reasoning".  Anecdotal!

And, considering practically the only German words I know are swear words, that could work, but English is really the only language I can speak (semi-)civilly.  And it's pretty close to German, anyway.    Arschloch...
PekkaA
Member
+36|6852|Finland
Sturm un blitzen, du schweinhund!
Milk.org
Bringing Sexy Back
+270|6963|UK

mavrick 3399 wrote:

ok so there are three ads for this one of them is the one we see at the top of the page, another one is black and white chicks looking at each other and the other one is the black chick pinning the white chick on the ground.

now that i have seen all three of the Ads i have to say it takes the WTF factor away. i mean if Milk.org was to post this picture first would we all still be talking about it???

[img]http://www.joystiq.com/media/2006/07/sony_whiteiscoming_web_3a.jpg[img]


i think once you see the rest of the ads for the white psp you will feel slightly different to the situation.
Hey maverick good find I honestly didn't know about the other pictures as I just read that article that I linked to. I don't think it was an accident that the other pictures didn't get as much attention from news sites etc as it kinda balances the argument (much like the news doesn't report most of the better news from Iraq).

But I think everyone in this thread should pat themselves on the back for having a discussion in the 'Debate & Serious Talk forum without it ending in:

"Zomfg we shud bomb teh middle east and kill teh africans FTW!!11one!eleven111!

or

"American dude: STFU British f4g we saved yo azzez in WW2!

Last edited by Milk.org (2006-07-14 08:50:31)

Jinto-sk
Laid Back Yorkshireman
+183|6779|Scarborough Yorkshire England
Could people please tell me why they think that ad is racist, I must be missing something
Horseman 77
Banned
+160|7024
took me a bit to see she was holding someones face.
{HMS}_Sir_Del_Boy
Member
+69|6896|th3 unkn0wn

Horseman 77 wrote:

took me a bit to see she was holding someones face.
lmao, is your brightness button broken?
{HMS}_Sir_Del_Boy
Member
+69|6896|th3 unkn0wn

Jinto-sk wrote:

Could people please tell me why they think that ad is racist, I must be missing something
It's provocative and could stir up racial tension that started many centuries ago. Or do you think that it's an "inspiring" piece of art???

PS: Someone else could be more sarcastic and simply say that wot you're missing is a brain...nuff said.
Hurricane
Banned
+1,153|6818|Washington, DC

I think Sony's ad department is completely deranged.

I don't like my PSP that much. I have very few games for it, I really only use it for its music player capabilities. Might sell it to get an iPod.
PekkaA
Member
+36|6852|Finland

{HMS}_Sir_Del_Boy wrote:

Or do you think that it's an "inspiring" piece of art??
I do, like I said before. Time for us to let go things that happened long time ago, and treat every race equally. Or do you have reason to feel quilty and sorry for black people? Or maybe you are one, and want hold on things that provide you special treatment because of your color?

Last edited by PekkaA (2006-07-14 15:16:05)

{HMS}_Sir_Del_Boy
Member
+69|6896|th3 unkn0wn

PekkaA wrote:

{HMS}_Sir_Del_Boy wrote:

Or do you think that it's an "inspiring" piece of art??
I do, like I said before. Time for us to let go things that happened long time ago, and treat every race equally. Or do you have reason to feel quilty and sorry for black people? Or maybe you are one, and want hold on things that provide you special treatment because of your color?
Finland wos never involved in slavery or the black & white racial issues that have marred history. And even though I've never visited Finland I doubt that there are many black people up where you are so may be that's why you don't understand why some people still hold a grudge/or discriminate dating back to the days of their ancestors.
PekkaA
Member
+36|6852|Finland

{HMS}_Sir_Del_Boy wrote:

PekkaA wrote:

{HMS}_Sir_Del_Boy wrote:

Or do you think that it's an "inspiring" piece of art??
I do, like I said before. Time for us to let go things that happened long time ago, and treat every race equally. Or do you have reason to feel quilty and sorry for black people? Or maybe you are one, and want hold on things that provide you special treatment because of your color?
Finland wos never involved in slavery or the black & white racial issues that have marred history. And even though I've never visited Finland I doubt that there are many black people up where you are so may be that's why you don't understand why some people still hold a grudge/or discriminate dating back to the days of their ancestors.
Actually we've been slaves to Russia and Sweden for hundreds of years. Or is it less condemnable because they also were white? But if you want to hold on to quilt for the rest of your life and teach your children to do the same, go ahead.
kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6737|Southeastern USA
that's ridiculous, if they were side by side they would get "lost" in the shot, it's common place to use assymetrical placement in advertising, photography, and movies, it was just coincidence that the white one was higher, if it were the black one higher would people be whining about it? Wouldn't that be equally as racist? Let me put it this way, if we are all equal then it really doesn't matter who's grabbing what, it should be viewed at the most as two people grabbing each other, if anything, it's offensive to whites because it implies that evil violent white women want to beat up black women, if you had seen the picture and not read the intro or title, would the thought have ever crossed your mind? Impossible to answer that now that you've already seen it.
Jinto-sk
Laid Back Yorkshireman
+183|6779|Scarborough Yorkshire England

{HMS}_Sir_Del_Boy wrote:

Jinto-sk wrote:

Could people please tell me why they think that ad is racist, I must be missing something
It's provocative and could stir up racial tension that started many centuries ago. Or do you think that it's an "inspiring" piece of art???

PS: Someone else could be more sarcastic and simply say that wot you're missing is a brain...nuff said.
No it is not a lovely piece of art it is a "photograph"
If it was the other way round would you consider it racist.

Time for us to let go things that happened long time ago, and treat every race equally
I don't see how it can be percieved as provocative, it is an advertising campaign, I can see the argument for it being racist and what people are saying, but I don't think it is racist.  I think it is just people holding on to the past.

As for you non directly implying I have no brain - debate and serious talk - if you do not like what someone says accept it, don't insult them my opinion is as valid as the next persons.

Last edited by Jinto-sk (2006-07-15 06:57:47)

Skruples
Mod Incarnate
+234|6888
Sony has been pushing the envelope for a while now:
http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=192
gazzie
Pulls out gun, Watch him run
+39|6909|England

{HMS}_Sir_Del_Boy wrote:

Anyways, who cares about that damn ad??? That black woman in it certainly didn't care when she agreed to the photoshoot...unless it wos done against her will but then again I doubt very much that that wos the case.
He took the words out my mouth also look at all of the pictures before adding your comment from just seeing the first post.
Hurricane
Banned
+1,153|6818|Washington, DC

Skruples wrote:

Sony has been pushing the envelope for a while now:
http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=192
LMFAO

Its true its been 'racist' quite long. I remember during ad breaks while watching 24 they would have two dustballs with a Mexican accent saying they'd "hit it" referring to the graphics of a game.
TriggerHappy998
just nothing
+387|7035|-
This ad has been pulled and an apology given.
Widjerd
I like sausage
+18|6728|Bristol UK
everyones just being offended for black people when infact nobody asks them what they think

I hate you bloody Politically correct people, jesus if it was a black woman holding a white woman nooooooobody would give one damn about it but nooooo...
<[onex]>Headstone
Member
+102|6889|New York

TriggerHappy998 wrote:

This ad has been pulled and an apology given.
So the French win again LMFAO.
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|6903

<[onex]>Headstone wrote:

TriggerHappy998 wrote:

This ad has been pulled and an apology given.
So the French win again LMFAO.
they always win if sumthings not about war they have more national will to fight against disney world and mcdonalds than the nazis.

sony doesnt really find it rascist coz their japanese... and in japan there is hardly any racial tension
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Cubanpenguin
Member
+35|6865|Kingston, Canada
Is it wrong that I didn't even see the black guy until I started scrolling down the posts???
RAVAGE
Member
+4|6361|México City, México.
That aid may not be a big deal for most white dudes, nevertheless i bet it is offensive for some black people.  Everyone has a diferent ethnic background and we need to understand that and be sensible about it, other way people is just growing up in anger. Ya, sure most  Whites dont find it offensive, but they do find offensive Arabs burning americans flags as Jews find offensive talking lightly about the holocaust and Chinese wont be happy if you remember them about the pacific railroad camps... so, if you know blacks will pist off with something like this.. well respect, and dont do it just to sell some toy.

I mean why do this kind of crappy (looking for polemic) aid publicity instead of a great product?

Is WII, 360, GBA, Mac and iPod doing shit like this? no..

Most stuff comming from sony lately is nothing but overpriced and overhyped junk, now wonder why they do this.

Last edited by RAVAGE (2007-06-03 22:07:15)

bobby177
Member
+129|6661|Texas.. getting out asap

RAVAGE wrote:

That aid may not be a big deal for most white dudes, nevertheless i bet it is offensive for some black people.  Everyone has a diferent ethnic background and we need to understand that and be sensible about it, other way people is just growing up in anger. Ya, sure most  Whites dont find it offensive, but they do find offensive Arabs burning americans flags as Jews find offensive talking lightly about the holocaust and Chinese wont be happy if you remember them about the pacific railroad camps... so, if you know blacks will pist off with something like this.. well respect, and dont do it just to sell some toy.
How is it offensive? Just because a white person is in a position of power over a black person doesn't mean that it is racist.
RAVAGE
Member
+4|6361|México City, México.

bobby177 wrote:

RAVAGE wrote:

That aid may not be a big deal for most white dudes, nevertheless i bet it is offensive for some black people.  Everyone has a diferent ethnic background and we need to understand that and be sensible about it, other way people is just growing up in anger. Ya, sure most  Whites dont find it offensive, but they do find offensive Arabs burning americans flags as Jews find offensive talking lightly about the holocaust and Chinese wont be happy if you remember them about the pacific railroad camps... so, if you know blacks will pist off with something like this.. well respect, and dont do it just to sell some toy.
How is it offensive? Just because a white person is in a position of power over a black person doesn't mean that it is racist.
Thats what I mean...

Just because a pist off occupied iraqui burns an American flag doesnt mean Americans should pist off... why? no no Im crazy..

Is not the same, everyone have a historic background it`s  not the same for whites, blacks, chinesse, arabas, jews ets...
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|6749
I'm white and I don't find Arabs burning US flags offensive......................

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