Wicked97 wrote:
This is a funny thread.
Notice, many of these pro rape guys are the higher ranked players, no prizes for guessing where a lot of your point's come from. I agree, if the enemy has only the one flag then, screw um, destroy the bastards blah blah blah. However, from the rapers point of view it does get boring, I mean, on wake (thee rape map, just is) i can take out there whole team in the one run, i mean theres something not right about that. Short run at the arty island, then go up high, shoot at the plane spawn, then get a lock at the bh *boom* then fire a few at the attack heli spawn. Swing back round, nail the attack heli before it gets going and drop ur bombs, and on route back, take out some random boat, re-arm and repeat. It's boring, I wen't on the usmc side for a change, i thought i would go get some revive point's and in truth, you can do just as well reviving as you can from raping.
What is kind of perplexing me here, are the ones who state, if ur teams stupid enough to get down to one flag it their problem. Now (stickin with wake island) just shut your hole, the guy who get's the f-35 is just taking is chances, if tht j-10 comes up behind he is probably screwed. Once those planes start to bomb, that is it for that round. So how the hell can u say there to stupid to get a base, they don't have a chance to! However I wont say, yea leave them to get the base, but you know, of late, i have dont, yes i will take out a bh thts hovering around a cap, but if i see em neutralisin something, hell let em have it, then bomb there ass.
Really the only way to solve raping, is some geographical alterin to this game, on wake especially, there needs to be an addition spawn point for those usmc guys, so u can have a proper dam game, instead of noob colonels who think there ace farming all the point's. My idea would be, let the americans have the option of a air droped spawn, like tht sf map (warlord i think) so they can land on a flag and have a descent chance. I know the point of that map is a us invasion of wake island, but I think we all know, that 90% of the time, the americans fail in there operation of this task.
Give the guys a chance, so the point's in the map go to all, not just the guys in j-10's and z-10.
What is kind of perplexing me here, are the ones who state, if ur teams stupid enough to get down to one flag it their problem. Now (stickin with wake island) just shut your hole, the guy who get's the f-35 is just taking is chances, if tht j-10 comes up behind he is probably screwed. Once those planes start to bomb, that is it for that round. So how the hell can u say there to stupid to get a base, they don't have a chance to! However I wont say, yea leave them to get the base, but you know, of late, i have dont, yes i will take out a bh thts hovering around a cap, but if i see em neutralisin something, hell let em have it, then bomb there ass.
Really the only way to solve raping, is some geographical alterin to this game, on wake especially, there needs to be an addition spawn point for those usmc guys, so u can have a proper dam game, instead of noob colonels who think there ace farming all the point's. My idea would be, let the americans have the option of a air droped spawn, like tht sf map (warlord i think) so they can land on a flag and have a descent chance. I know the point of that map is a us invasion of wake island, but I think we all know, that 90% of the time, the americans fail in there operation of this task.
Give the guys a chance, so the point's in the map go to all, not just the guys in j-10's and z-10.
wtf are u doing here?! Go and play CSS u nOOb! btw, bf is a teamplay game and not made for those ego-idiots like u! Go to hell and send me a card...specialistx2324 wrote:
"ohh noo you are baserapping please stop" those are the words of a noob. plain and simple.
servers like NAEA prohibit base rapping. so me being spec ops, i destroy the other teams assets and all of the sudden someone sees me, what do you want me to do, say hi to him. then when i kill him all the fools in NAEA say " if you dont leave the main base, you will be kicked and banned from the server"
I work alone and all i need from my teammates is healing packs, ammo and be revived . nothing more and nothing else. i make my own squad and lock it. i work alone so that the enemy has a hard time to detect me and to avoid all the noobs out there
And This my friend, earns you a freshly baked karma cookie.Bell wrote:
Notice, many of these pro rape guys are the higher ranked players, no prizes for guessing where a lot of your point's come from. I agree, if the enemy has only the one flag then, screw um, destroy the bastards blah blah blah. However, from the rapers point of view it does get boring, I mean, on wake (thee rape map, just is) i can take out there whole team in the one run, i mean theres something not right about that. Short run at the arty island, then go up high, shoot at the plane spawn, then get a lock at the bh *boom* then fire a few at the attack heli spawn. Swing back round, nail the attack heli before it gets going and drop ur bombs, and on route back, take out some random boat, re-arm and repeat. It's boring, I wen't on the usmc side for a change, i thought i would go get some revive point's and in truth, you can do just as well reviving as you can from raping.
What is kind of perplexing me here, are the ones who state, if ur teams stupid enough to get down to one flag it their problem. Now (stickin with wake island) just shut your hole, the guy who get's the f-35 is just taking is chances, if tht j-10 comes up behind he is probably screwed. Once those planes start to bomb, that is it for that round. So how the hell can u say there to stupid to get a base, they don't have a chance to! However I wont say, yea leave them to get the base, but you know, of late, i have dont, yes i will take out a bh thts hovering around a cap, but if i see em neutralisin something, hell let em have it, then bomb there ass.
Really the only way to solve raping, is some geographical alterin to this game, on wake especially, there needs to be an addition spawn point for those usmc guys, so u can have a proper dam game, instead of noob colonels who think there ace farming all the point's. My idea would be, let the americans have the option of a air droped spawn, like tht sf map (warlord i think) so they can land on a flag and have a descent chance. I know the point of that map is a us invasion of wake island, but I think we all know, that 90% of the time, the americans fail in there operation of this task.
Give the guys a chance, so the point's in the map go to all, not just the guys in j-10's and z-10.
I don't play wake anymore and it's not beacuse planes blow me away it's because some times you don't even see a USMC soldier for an entire round. (When playing chinese on the ground)
The parachute spawn idea is excellent and goes well with the story.
USMC wouldn't rely on rubber boats against a fortified enemy with air support.
All you need is healing,ammo and be revived. How is that working alone? Sounds to me like you want all the advantages of working in a team but work alone. You should learn what a team play is.specialistx2324 wrote:
"ohh noo you are baserapping please stop" those are the words of a noob. plain and simple.
servers like NAEA prohibit base rapping. so me being spec ops, i destroy the other teams assets and all of the sudden someone sees me, what do you want me to do, say hi to him. then when i kill him all the fools in NAEA say " if you dont leave the main base, you will be kicked and banned from the server"
I work alone and all i need from my teammates is healing packs, ammo and be revived . nothing more and nothing else. i make my own squad and lock it. i work alone so that the enemy has a hard time to detect me and to avoid all the noobs out there
specialist:
hypocritical noob. I would LOVE to see your stats and see if they back up your claims of superiority. Guess what? getting health, ammo, and being revived takes teamwork!!!!!! playing alone defeats the entire purpose of the entire game.
Bell:
in response to your comment about the rapers having high points, just to play devils advocate, I do believe I have the most points of anyone who has posted here.... by far. and I am completely against baseraping. not to disuade your argument, just playing devils advocate. and not trying to look like im conceited.... i just play the game way too damn much. maybe another hobby or two besides this one.... eh?
oh, and the parachute idea on wake would not only be perfect, it would make sense too, i mean, you have a flippin carrier right there, theoretically you could do it......
hypocritical noob. I would LOVE to see your stats and see if they back up your claims of superiority. Guess what? getting health, ammo, and being revived takes teamwork!!!!!! playing alone defeats the entire purpose of the entire game.
Bell:
in response to your comment about the rapers having high points, just to play devils advocate, I do believe I have the most points of anyone who has posted here.... by far. and I am completely against baseraping. not to disuade your argument, just playing devils advocate. and not trying to look like im conceited.... i just play the game way too damn much. maybe another hobby or two besides this one.... eh?
oh, and the parachute idea on wake would not only be perfect, it would make sense too, i mean, you have a flippin carrier right there, theoretically you could do it......
I had actually stopped responding to this thread because everyone had more or less been making the same backwards ass points and throwing out the same villifying bullshit, but I'm actually gonna pretty much go ahead and agree with everything comet has said here. specialist, I'm all for baserape, but everything you said there was fucking stupid. All of those things ARE facets of teamwork, and would be easier to get if you let people into your SQUAD to give it to you. Not to mention, teamwork is the best, if not only way to both carry out AND fight back against an effective raid on a base. Also, if you're so damn good, your team could really use you as a team player, acting as a mobile spawnpoint for your team and backup for those crappy players you speak of. Nothing you said makes any logical sense, and it all sounds horribly counter productive.comet241 wrote:
specialist:
hypocritical noob. I would LOVE to see your stats and see if they back up your claims of superiority. Guess what? getting health, ammo, and being revived takes teamwork!!!!!! playing alone defeats the entire purpose of the entire game.
Bell:
in response to your comment about the rapers having high points, just to play devils advocate, I do believe I have the most points of anyone who has posted here.... by far. and I am completely against baseraping. not to disuade your argument, just playing devils advocate. and not trying to look like im conceited.... i just play the game way too damn much. maybe another hobby or two besides this one.... eh?
oh, and the parachute idea on wake would not only be perfect, it would make sense too, i mean, you have a flippin carrier right there, theoretically you could do it......
Also, yes...Wake Island suffers from horrible unbalance. Assuming that both teams are EQUAL in skill, China will come out on top, since they start off with every advantage possible. In order to the US to win, they have to be decidedly better. Whether you believe in baserape or not, it's going to happen on this level, so EA really DOES need to do something to give the US an edge. Not sure about the paratrooper idea, but something certainly needs to be changed. Even just spawning a few more vehicles on the carrier would make a world of difference. Until that time, I'm going to tell people what I always tell people...don't play Wake Fucking Island Two Thousand and fucking Seven. It sucks. We know.
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Problem: Most maps with the US carrier suck for the US because there is no good way to defend the carrier
Solution: Give the Phalanx (essex guns) APC armor. If you wanna go for a quick bombing run, go ahead and do it. If you wanna keep raping, you better hope the guys in the Phalanx are retarded.
Solution: Give the Phalanx (essex guns) APC armor. If you wanna go for a quick bombing run, go ahead and do it. If you wanna keep raping, you better hope the guys in the Phalanx are retarded.
Why is 90% of the people in this thread still alive
Give it up people. Please.
Give it up people. Please.
War is hellOGGBlueGoose wrote:
Maybe it's just me, but it seems like the new fad, is to base rape the main.
While most servers have rules against it, that doesn't stop them, and admins never seem to be around (I know you can't always watch everyone). I know you will find the new player doing it. But lately many of the servers I've played on, I've noticed players with high ranks, Lt. Col. Captains, etc, the first thing they do is jump in a plane or chopper and start raping the main. ( maybe that is how they got there points) I don't even like to kill in the main if all the flags are taken. Oh well just my 2 cents.
Happy fragging
your a damn hypocrite you brainless noob. you tell me to go to hell and send me a card and then call me an ego idiot. then it says near you sig: love, peace, and harmony.. wow what is so peaceful in what you said.Schlusi=[GER] wrote:
wtf are u doing here?! Go and play CSS u nOOb! btw, bf is a teamplay game and not made for those ego-idiots like u! Go to hell and send me a card...specialistx2324 wrote:
"ohh noo you are baserapping please stop" those are the words of a noob. plain and simple.
servers like NAEA prohibit base rapping. so me being spec ops, i destroy the other teams assets and all of the sudden someone sees me, what do you want me to do, say hi to him. then when i kill him all the fools in NAEA say " if you dont leave the main base, you will be kicked and banned from the server"
I work alone and all i need from my teammates is healing packs, ammo and be revived . nothing more and nothing else. i make my own squad and lock it. i work alone so that the enemy has a hard time to detect me and to avoid all the noobs out there
I dont trust anyone when i play battlefield 2. you want me to go into a squad when time and time again i ask for ammo and health and 90% of the people in my squad tell me to get lost and to screw myself. where is the honor in that brother...i contribute by playing medic when i used to go into squads and i dont get even a thank you. i tell people ideas to help the team win and no one listens. every noob just does their own thing. SO what do i do... i make my own squad, lock it so i dont have another ulcerPCShooterNoob wrote:
I had actually stopped responding to this thread because everyone had more or less been making the same backwards ass points and throwing out the same villifying bullshit, but I'm actually gonna pretty much go ahead and agree with everything comet has said here. specialist, I'm all for baserape, but everything you said there was fucking stupid. All of those things ARE facets of teamwork, and would be easier to get if you let people into your SQUAD to give it to you. Not to mention, teamwork is the best, if not only way to both carry out AND fight back against an effective raid on a base. Also, if you're so damn good, your team could really use you as a team player, acting as a mobile spawnpoint for your team and backup for those crappy players you speak of. Nothing you said makes any logical sense, and it all sounds horribly counter productive.comet241 wrote:
specialist:
hypocritical noob. I would LOVE to see your stats and see if they back up your claims of superiority. Guess what? getting health, ammo, and being revived takes teamwork!!!!!! playing alone defeats the entire purpose of the entire game.
Bell:
in response to your comment about the rapers having high points, just to play devils advocate, I do believe I have the most points of anyone who has posted here.... by far. and I am completely against baseraping. not to disuade your argument, just playing devils advocate. and not trying to look like im conceited.... i just play the game way too damn much. maybe another hobby or two besides this one.... eh?
oh, and the parachute idea on wake would not only be perfect, it would make sense too, i mean, you have a flippin carrier right there, theoretically you could do it......
Also, yes...Wake Island suffers from horrible unbalance. Assuming that both teams are EQUAL in skill, China will come out on top, since they start off with every advantage possible. In order to the US to win, they have to be decidedly better. Whether you believe in baserape or not, it's going to happen on this level, so EA really DOES need to do something to give the US an edge. Not sure about the paratrooper idea, but something certainly needs to be changed. Even just spawning a few more vehicles on the carrier would make a world of difference. Until that time, I'm going to tell people what I always tell people...don't play Wake Fucking Island Two Thousand and fucking Seven. It sucks. We know.
i dont trust anyone because i have been screwed over and over by being a nice guy in the game. SInce i work mostly as a spec ops or a sniper, i use my stealth to my advantage. the only way that people dont notice me is to work alone.
just drop health, ammo, and revive me. Nothing more and nothing less. Beyond ammo, health and taking flags dont ever interfere with what i do during the game.. i tell people that allthe time. then i will disappear and take care of the badguys my own way.
Okay Rambo...whatever you say. I've never heard of a medic or support who wasn't MORE than willing to toss me a pack or get a revive point, whether or not I actually need it. I'm sure you're also the guy that bugs the commander for all kinds of crap but doesn't follow a single order given to you. Regaedless of how good you are, you could ALWAYS be better with a team.
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I agree. I know guys that play sniper and spec ops who don't mind when i'm a medic or support person around them as long as i don't give away there hiding positions.PCShooterNoob wrote:
Okay Rambo...whatever you say. I've never heard of a medic or support who wasn't MORE than willing to toss me a pack or get a revive point, whether or not I actually need it. I'm sure you're also the guy that bugs the commander for all kinds of crap but doesn't follow a single order given to you. Regaedless of how good you are, you could ALWAYS be better with a team.
For me base raping ends like this!
alt+tab...{Base_raping_noob_idot}....right click...kick-attacking noncap....enter
10 seconds later and no more idot killing my player #s in my server I pay money to play on.
We kick because when base raping starts the quality of play and players goes down quickly.
alt+tab...{Base_raping_noob_idot}....right click...kick-attacking noncap....enter
10 seconds later and no more idot killing my player #s in my server I pay money to play on.
We kick because when base raping starts the quality of play and players goes down quickly.
wow, this is really getting twisted around here, I actually agree with everything you said here! Bf2 is a team game, and as much as you may think you are ultra 1337 (im mocking people there, not being a noob as many may think), sticking together, squading up with other people, using a single strategy, whether it be baseraping or capping the tv station on sharqi.... working together will always win over a bunch of rambos on the field.PCShooterNoob wrote:
Okay Rambo...whatever you say. I've never heard of a medic or support who wasn't MORE than willing to toss me a pack or get a revive point, whether or not I actually need it. I'm sure you're also the guy that bugs the commander for all kinds of crap but doesn't follow a single order given to you. Regaedless of how good you are, you could ALWAYS be better with a team.
Comet agreeing with PCShoorter?? what's the world coming too. lol.
Teamwork is the way to win though.
Teamwork is the way to win though.
It's happening with a disturbing frequency, actually. I think we both just got a little too passionate about this one issue to see any sort of bigger picture. But all it takes is one genuinely stupid person to remind us that the real enemies are idiots and those who ARE genuinely out to ruin the game for solely their own benefit. Well, them...and anyone whose name appears in red above their head...those are the REAL enemies...DSRTurtle wrote:
Comet agreeing with PCShoorter?? what's the world coming too. lol.
Teamwork is the way to win though.
i really think its bad play ive never done it and never will. its unfair to the player whos spawned who has no chance to even fight back and the spawnraper has got a kill he hasnt even worked for. on our server we are strict with our rules and no one gets away with anything
yeah, i think we both actually would agree on a lot of topics, it's just this little one we dont. Idiots are the real enemy, and they ruin the game for everybody. you know what they say, one bad apple......PCShooterNoob wrote:
It's happening with a disturbing frequency, actually. I think we both just got a little too passionate about this one issue to see any sort of bigger picture. But all it takes is one genuinely stupid person to remind us that the real enemies are idiots and those who ARE genuinely out to ruin the game for solely their own benefit. Well, them...and anyone whose name appears in red above their head...those are the REAL enemies...DSRTurtle wrote:
Comet agreeing with PCShoorter?? what's the world coming too. lol.
Teamwork is the way to win though.
U damn nOOb!!!specialistx2324 wrote:
your a damn hypocrite you brainless noob. you tell me to go to hell and send me a card and then call me an ego idiot. then it says near you sig: love, peace, and harmony.. wow what is so peaceful in what you said.Schlusi=[GER] wrote:
wtf are u doing here?! Go and play CSS u nOOb! btw, bf is a teamplay game and not made for those ego-idiots like u! Go to hell and send me a card...specialistx2324 wrote:
I work alone and all i need from my teammates is healing packs, ammo and be revived . nothing more and nothing else. i make my own squad and lock it. i work alone so that the enemy has a hard time to detect me and to avoid all the noobs out there
wtf are u trying to tell me boy? my sig is the f**k ironic! we are playing a war game and the most people out there give a peace of shit for love, peace and harmony (btw, if u try to write my sig right, please copy and paste it next time fool!). give me ur account name and I cut ur little spec op ass in little pieces! a big harmony kiss to u Mr nice guy (oh sorry, gay)
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The spawning soldier made a choice where to spawn so he did have a chance he just made the wrong choice.[IFF]DemonDave wrote:
i really think its bad play ive never done it and never will. its unfair to the player whos spawned who has no chance to even fight back and the spawnraper has got a kill he hasnt even worked for. on our server we are strict with our rules and no one gets away with anything
You are under no obligation to give someone a chance to kill you before you kill him. If you want the "Old West" feel in a game play that other shooter. BF2 is a Strategic or Tactical Shooter not a dueling field.
Killing someone at a spawnpoint is just like ambushing a truck full of replacments. The closer to the battle it is the more likely your truck will be hit. The smart player will not keep spawning in the same place over and over again only to be killed again. Your squad leader can hide in a secure location to give you a safe spawning experience, if need be.
Play BF2 as it was intended and not this retro style. Why make BF2 like all the other shooters that needed rules against spawncamping because the game design was weak?
There are 3 things to that.OpsChief wrote:
Your squad leader can hide in a secure location to give you a safe spawning experience, if need be.
1. You are in a Squad
2. You are not the Squad Leader
3. You Squad Leader is in "relatively safe position" for you to spawn at.
Ladies and gentleman, while I realize this is wonderfully lively debate, everything that probably could be said about "base raping" probably has in one of our other lengthy posts base rape, hence closed.
Should you have anything of definate signifigance to add to this, I *may* reopen one, but not likely.
Should you have anything of definate signifigance to add to this, I *may* reopen one, but not likely.