kr@cker
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R0lyP0ly wrote:

Would genetic differences have anything to do with resistance / at risk for certain diseases? bc. Africans are at a much, much higher risk for certain genetic diseases such as sickle cell anemia.
the most relevant case I can think of is that American Indians are doomed for alcoholism from the first sip, perhaps because, until Europeans came to America, there was no alcohol, kinda like what Cyb was saying, careful not to confuse genetics with culture (though sickle cell is a genetic disease), as blacks are also known (at least in the US) to have higher cases of high blood pressure and cholesterol, but then their diet, especially in the south, is saturated fat/cholesterol heavy, there is some truth to almost all stereotypes, and....let me put it this way, the only fast food restaurant in Pleasant Hill (a literally 99% black neighborhood, right outside my balcony) to survive is Church's Chicken, many of these eating habits being established during the era of slavery, when high calorie/cheap food meant fry anything you can get your hands on

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Ilocano
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kr@cker wrote:

because they are midget genetic freaks
Tell that to Yao Ming.
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/yao_ming/

Check out post-WWII Japan.  With the introduction of Western diets, the Japanese are getting taller/bigger.

Go to any "koreatown" and tell me Korean men are short.  Korean's are meat eaters.

Most Vietnamese are small due to their low protein diet.  Vietnamese prefer the veggies.

I have Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, Korean, Filipino, Samoan friends/relatives who are well over 6 feet tall...

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Viper38
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Genetical ... LMAO!!!! Hilarious, what a great word. +1 for made up words and the growing trend of illiteracy.

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kr@cker
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there are exceptions to every rule, in a topic like this you can only use the broadest generalizations possible, and it was a joke because ....nm
Cybargs
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Ilocano wrote:

kr@cker wrote:

because they are midget genetic freaks
Tell that to Yao Ming.
http://www.nba.com/playerfile/yao_ming/

Check out post-WWII Japan.  With the introduction of Western diets, the Japanese are getting taller/bigger.

Go to any "koreatown" and tell me Korean men are short.  Korean's are meat eaters.

Most Vietnamese are small due to their low protein diet.  Vietnamese prefer the veggies.
you knoe why the japanese got talelr coz of western diet? coz most of the time they just eat fish and rice, no land meat for iron and protien
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Ilocano
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kr@cker wrote:

there are exceptions to every rule, in a topic like this you can only use the broadest generalizations possible, and it was a joke because ....nm
Yeah, I should have put a earlier.  Never meant to take too seriousl.  But like I said:

"I have Chinese, Japanese, Vietnamese, Korean, Filipino, Samoan friends/relatives who are well over 6 feet tall..."  Plenty around where I am...

How's this for rapid genetic change due to "western" diet heavy in calcium, protein, iron and general increase in nutrition.  I know these Filipino parents, both about only 5 feet tall, but have two boys who are each about 5 feet 10 inches tall.

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Viper38 wrote:

Genetical ... LMAO!!!! Hilarious, what a great word. +1 for made up words and the growing trend of illiteracy.
lol english isnt my first language and I thought that word existed.. at least you understood what I meant
DesertFox-
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There's very little biological difference between any group of people. All humans have the same construction of the mitochondria in their cells, and the other two are variations of the first.
Viper38
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-=raska=- wrote:

Viper38 wrote:

Genetical ... LMAO!!!! Hilarious, what a great word. +1 for made up words and the growing trend of illiteracy.
lol english isnt my first language and I thought that word existed.. at least you understood what I meant
Sorry, I was poking fun a little bit ... I only speak one language so kudos to you (and I mean it).
Jbrar
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Inteligence differences are based on the enviroment you're brought up in, (imo), but not always. Generally, those brought up in very wealthy enviroments that have all their needs taken care of for them will have a lower intelligence level then those that have to apply what they learn to their everyday lives (less wealthier people). Also diets sometimes make a difference but not always. For example, my family is east indian, and my parent's are 5'8"ish and 5'10". Myself on the other hand, I'm 6'1. Not much of a difference, but my diet is basically the same thing everyday, without much fruits and veggies.

Math has always been something that my parent's have been extremely good at, myself a little less, and the rest of my family is average. So it's all about how much you use it, and how much u need to learn. People in Africa would be considered less intelligent because school isn't a must everywhere. Many people are concerned on surviving rather then designing and creating formulas or inventing stuff.
Ilocano
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Jbrar wrote:

For example, my family is east indian, and my parent's are 5'8"ish and 5'10". Myself on the other hand, I'm 6'1. Not much of a difference, but my diet is basically the same thing everyday, without much fruits and veggies.
Your parent's heights are similar, so it's a given that you will be taller by a bit.  Try this height calculater: http://www.keepkidshealthy.com/welcome/ … lator.html

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Shopvac
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I can understand that someone would ask this question, but to think that people who have not studied the subject would write here, what their "wise old uncle" once told them, as fact, is sad.

While DNA can identifyor diferentiate someone's race, gender, and some other traits, genetically we are identical to all other human beings. Furthermore . . . we are 97% identical to Chimps!

FURTHERMORE: Every person on the face of the Earth right now can trace their family tree back to a single person who lived 2 to 5 thousand years ago. We're all the same!!!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13621729/

Please, if you're going to argue that one race is superior to an other due to something other than social constructs (such as global poverty, or cultural priorities), I would ask that you back your statement up with something substantial.

That being said, there are studies that say that Europeans have superior intelligence to Africans, but one must ask how it is that this is being measured. IQ tests are very culturally specific, and have been proven to be invalid when administered to groups of people that the test was not designed for. Thus, using a European IQ test to measure African intelligence is not reliable. Please don't use the Tanser, or works by Porteus when supporting a different position.
Spark
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Yes, there is a genetic difference. No, it does not constitute different species. Anyway, what do you mean by 'species'? In the world of primates, no-one knows (or agrees on) quite how many different 'species' there are, and where the distinctions lie.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
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Bubbalo
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THA wrote:

well aborigines her in aus have a chemical thing messed up in their brain, thats why they fight a lot and can take a good beating.
Wha..........?

In answer to the original question: yes, of course.  Very slight differences exist.  Hence why you get the different pigments, and why you can tell northern Asians from southern Asians (and why Asians can tell north north Asians from south north Asians), and why you can tell Germans from French.  But the difference between races isn't much more than that between nationalities (see German/French example).
HolmWrecker
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Anyone who hasn't lived for at least 40 years probably won't have enough life experience to notice this.
In my view...clearly there are substantial differences. You'd have to be blind, ignorant or in denial to say otherwise. The races, all of them, are all in different stages of development.
Not trying to be racist, but whites are credited with inventing the vast majority of...stuff, like most everything, the list is staggering. That's not to say that other races don't do good or even spectacular things, sure they do. But there's more whites so whites invent more and do more.
Bubbalo
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HolmWrecker wrote:

Anyone who hasn't lived for at least 40 years probably won't have enough life experience to notice this.
*Gets out club of sense*

HolmWrecker wrote:

In my view...clearly there are substantial differences. You'd have to be blind, ignorant or in denial to say otherwise. The races, all of them, are all in different stages of development.
Not trying to be racist, but whites are credited with inventing the vast majority of...stuff, like most everything, the list is staggering. That's not to say that other races don't do good or even spectacular things, sure they do. But there's more whites so whites invent more and do more.
Where do you think gunpowder comes from?

European movements have more to do with the political systems in Europe than anything else.
-CARNIFEX-[LOC]
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HolmWrecker wrote:

Anyone who hasn't lived for at least 40 years probably won't have enough life experience to notice this.
In my view...clearly there are substantial differences. You'd have to be blind, ignorant or in denial to say otherwise. The races, all of them, are all in different stages of development.
Not trying to be racist, but whites are credited with inventing the vast majority of...stuff, like most everything, the list is staggering. That's not to say that other races don't do good or even spectacular things, sure they do. But there's more whites so whites invent more and do more.
Very scientific.

There ARE differences, yet a small amount of genetic variation is to be expected, and the variation is not enough to prevent successful breeding between any given human "race" with any other.  And you cannot judge a book by its cover so to speak:  often there is more difference between people who appear similar than between people who look remarkably different.

Just recently National Geographic had a cover article on the "illusion of race", discussing this very issue.  You might check your local library or look online for it.  In it they did a study of people from all over the globe, and made a library of their genetic code and compared it.  They found that there were different groups of people within Africa and Asia that showed more genetic similarities to some of the white races of the West than they did to the Africans and Asians of areas nearby.  I don't remember specifically, but I'm pretty sure that of the two people with most similar genetic code one was from northern Africa (a black) and one was a red-headed, freckled white person from Western Europe.

The visible, physical differences are really very small genetically speaking, and brain size is pretty much consistent throughout humanity.  Any difference in relative intelligence is likely due more to educational circumstance than anything else.  It is true that the past few hundred years have been dominated by Western (I hesitate to say white here) achievement, but look back further:  when Europe was entering the dark ages following the collapse of the Roman empire, the Mayans had developed an advanced civilization with complex written language, HIGHLY advanced astronomic tools, and an advanced understanding of mathematics.  Race truly is more of an illusion than many seem to believe.
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Cybargs
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more or less the difference is only genetic mutation by the enviroment one lives in.
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kr@cker
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Cybargs
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kr@cker wrote:

I have been naked for 4.5 hours straight
its my sig isnt it?
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ATG
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No, cultural only.
kr@cker
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it's a white thing, you wouldn't understand
Flecco
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THA wrote:

well aborigines her in aus have a chemical thing messed up in their brain, thats why they fight a lot and can take a good beating.
That and they are the only culture on earth to never invent the bow and arrow for hunting/fighting.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
Spark
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Flecco wrote:

THA wrote:

well aborigines her in aus have a chemical thing messed up in their brain, thats why they fight a lot and can take a good beating.
That and they are the only culture on earth to never invent the bow and arrow for hunting/fighting.
What's the point? It's a lot easier to throw something than to pull back, aim, release, and miss.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
kr@cker
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Is that why they have x-ray vision?





before you look for the neg button out of habit, abbies' rock paintings of kangaroos and such show their vitals and skeletons

seriously though, would you be talking about the pituitary gland?

and they do have that spear whip thing, I want to try one out

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