no one owns it, thats what im sayingBubbalo wrote:
Yes, it's very international under the Jews. Totally.
Poll
Palestine, Israel, The West Bank, Jerusalem, etc...who's is it?
| Palestinians - They were there first | 35% | 35% - 38 | ||||
| Israel - Britain said they could have it | 25% | 25% - 27 | ||||
| Neither - It is holy ground and should be for everyone | 38% | 38% - 41 | ||||
| Total: 106 | ||||||
Ok, fine. In that case, noone owns Washington.
if you really think that advance war tech. against rocks is a kick ass ... that's describes how flat you are !!!bigp66 wrote:
this is a bad poll...it doesn't have the option like the jews because they were there a lot earlier than the arabs....and how about when we put the jews into palistine they fought a war against most of the middle east for the land and the jews kicked the arabs ass...so the jews should have it since they fought the arabs for it and wonHM1{N} wrote:
We all know about the problems in the Middle East. We all know that war has been waged for centuries regarding Jerusalem and the land surrounding it...
I am personally against the Zionist Jews in Israel who believe they have a right to take what isn't theirs because they need a home. I can quote period after period where the Palestinians were massacred and their land stolen, where Israel began all the terrorist attacks that still take place today, but I won't get into that now.
Instead, I leave you with a couple of links regarding the history of Palestine and allow you to make your own choice.
Flame me if you want, -1 my karma if you want (just be a man and leave a reason and name). This debate is open to serious discussion only. Please don't resort to the "anti-semitic" line, instead, leave facts (not opinions) as to why you feel the way you do.
http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_history.php
http://www.palestinehistory.com/history.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine
http://www.un.org/Depts/dpa/qpal/
Last edited by Badrism (2006-07-02 02:53:21)
same principalsBubbalo wrote:
Ok, fine. In that case, noone owns Washington.
Oh noes, we've found a Communist! Quick, kill him, he must be the anti-Christ!
The Battles and wars I remember Israel fighting v Arab states, 48/67/73, the tech was mostly on par and in some cases superiority went to either side. Israel used the David v Goliath concept and hit the giant in the eye then cut off its head. They also used superior generalship in out manuevering large formations, showing up where they weren't expected. When you look at the numbers it blows the tech v tech argument out of the water. Generalship wins the wars. The rocks thrown at tanks in civil unrest isn't the same thing.Badrism wrote:
if you really think that advance war tech. against rocks is a kick ass ... that's describes how flat you are !!!bigp66 wrote:
this is a bad poll...it doesn't have the option like the jews because they were there a lot earlier than the arabs....and how about when we put the jews into palistine they fought a war against most of the middle east for the land and the jews kicked the arabs ass...so the jews should have it since they fought the arabs for it and wonHM1{N} wrote:
We all know about the problems in the Middle East. We all know that war has been waged for centuries regarding Jerusalem and the land surrounding it...
I am personally against the Zionist Jews in Israel who believe they have a right to take what isn't theirs because they need a home. I can quote period after period where the Palestinians were massacred and their land stolen, where Israel began all the terrorist attacks that still take place today, but I won't get into that now.
Instead, I leave you with a couple of links regarding the history of Palestine and allow you to make your own choice.
Flame me if you want, -1 my karma if you want (just be a man and leave a reason and name). This debate is open to serious discussion only. Please don't resort to the "anti-semitic" line, instead, leave facts (not opinions) as to why you feel the way you do.
http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_history.php
http://www.palestinehistory.com/history.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine
http://www.un.org/Depts/dpa/qpal/
Tbh i used to car but now i dont, they keep breaking cease fires and stuff, lets just let them fight it out and tell them to sort themselves out.
And your point is? It s agood find but rmember the last paragraph (I'm surprised they included it) He is a advocate for one side of the story. His arguments are like hearing only one side in a court trial, meaningless but compelling. When you investigate both sides they all pretty much suck at being nice neighbors!BN wrote:
http://www.nasdaq.com/aspxcontent/NewsStory.aspx?cpath=20060705\ACQDJON200607051154DOWJONESDJONLINE000496.htm&selected=9999&selecteddisplaysymbol=9999&StoryTargetFrame=_top&mkt=WORLD&chk=unchecked&lang=&link=&headlinereturnpage=http://www.international.na
I am getting the feeling that international law has big chunks missing... but i guess politicians need something to do to justify their paycheck.
I dont have a point, I am just posting a relevant link. Trying to cover both sides in a media age where an opinion is more important than the facts.OpsChief wrote:
And your point is?BN wrote:
http://www.nasdaq.com/aspxcontent/NewsStory.aspx?cpath=20060705\ACQDJON200607051154DOWJONESDJONLINE000496.htm&selected=9999&selecteddisplaysymbol=9999&StoryTargetFrame=_top&mkt=WORLD&chk=unchecked&lang=&link=&headlinereturnpage=http://www.international.na
this is exctally what i always say, "i just dont know why they cant all share that land, it is very important to both religious groups."
God promised Abraham the land of milk and honey to his children.
Abraham had two sons: Isaac and Ishmael.
From Isaac came the Israelites. From Ishmael came the Arab race and the religion of Islam.
Therefore, both the Israelites and the Muslims have a legitimate claim to the land. This is why there is conflict there and there likely always will be.
I hope this answers your question....
Read this to see the Muslim explanation
Abraham had two sons: Isaac and Ishmael.
From Isaac came the Israelites. From Ishmael came the Arab race and the religion of Islam.
Therefore, both the Israelites and the Muslims have a legitimate claim to the land. This is why there is conflict there and there likely always will be.
I hope this answers your question....
Read this to see the Muslim explanation
what's the point of -1'ing me for this??? I simply did some research, and I was a religious studies major. unnecessary hate.
No, both have a religious connection to the land. Some Jews decided this was important enough to kill innocent civilians.G3|Genius wrote:
Therefore, both the Israelites and the Muslims have a legitimate claim to the land.
Some muslims decided it was important enough to blow themselves up over.Bubbalo wrote:
No, both have a religious connection to the land. Some Jews decided this was important enough to kill innocent civilians.G3|Genius wrote:
Therefore, both the Israelites and the Muslims have a legitimate claim to the land.
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I have the solution.
The Holy Land. Give them half and half.
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Last edited by Flecco (2006-07-07 00:59:57)
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
I think the Israelis and Palestinians should open a forum and start flaming threads in the internet instead of flaming flesh...while we here have solved nothing either at least nobody died doing it.
Thanks to those who provided links I am a bit more aware today than I was last week.
Thanks to those who provided links I am a bit more aware today than I was last week.