BF2S Forums How should a clan be run?

I think you should have a definite man in charge, so no anarchy.

However, the rest of the clan should have some say in everything. Personally, if you have a lot of members, you should have leaders for different groups (such as jet whores, etc) that way, each group will be bounded together, ultimately into one giant clan.

Also, I recommend it being an open community, open to visitors to see what everything is like.

As for the qualifications, mature attitude, great player, teamwork, etc.

Finally, goal should be to be number 1 or something high like that in TWL and CAL, any league would be great.

I was just looking for a precident.

We had a group that started out together as a group of friends who blackhawked together.   Then we all joined BSF because one of us was a member.

They had a strict hierarchial structure and a code of conduct, weekly reports and meetings etc and it never accomplished anything.  It made a game more like work.

Anyway we got sick of it and one of us bought a TS server one afternoon so we all (about twenty or thirty) just started to use that instead. 

I believe since it was a huge group that just moved over with no one person claiming ownership of it (the clan) or the TS we became something unique.

-All members have full admin rights to TS and a game server.
-All new members, as soon as they are accepted, gain those rights.
-No seniority exists.
-If a fight occurs the two parties are encrouraged to work it out amongst themselves like adults and if one or both can't deal they just leave on their own.
-New recruits are decided on a majority vote accessible to all members.
-If any member wants to start a league, server, or any other project they can do it and it's success or failure depends entirely on their own effort and leadership ability.

One would think that a community with no leader, admin, or censor would fall into anarchy.  But we have been growing steadily and have all kept a strong bond for the last nine months.

I was wondering if anyone else is involved in a community/clan/gang like this?

NASTIE_BUTLER wrote:

I was just looking for a precident.

We had a group that started out together as a group of friends who blackhawked together.   Then we all joined BSF because one of us was a member.

They had a strict hierarchial structure and a code of conduct, weekly reports and meetings etc and it never accomplished anything.  It made a game more like work.

Anyway we got sick of it and one of us bought a TS server one afternoon so we all (about twenty or thirty) just started to use that instead. 

I believe since it was a huge group that just moved over with no one person claiming ownership of it (the clan) or the TS we became something unique.

-All members have full admin rights to TS and a game server.
-All new members, as soon as they are accepted, gain those rights.
-No seniority exists.
-If a fight occurs the two parties are encrouraged to work it out amongst themselves like adults and if one or both can't deal they just leave on their own.
-New recruits are decided on a majority vote accessible to all members.
-If any member wants to start a league, server, or any other project they can do it and it's success or failure depends entirely on their own effort and leadership ability.

One would think that a community with no leader, admin, or censor would fall into anarchy.  But we have been growing steadily and have all kept a strong bond for the last nine months.

I was wondering if anyone else is involved in a community/clan/gang like this?

Sounds like a great idea. However, I have heard some bad things about some of your members, not sure if it's true though.

Yeah, ive been in clans/community whichever you want to call it before.  It all depends on the maturity level of the ppl involved.  Usally things start out great, but eventually afew asshats get in somehow and muck things up. Then afew are still around and are still a good buncha guys.   *shrugs*

Nice website, maybe we can do a little scrim?

www.deltasoldiers.com

There is a god. we must worship god or be kicked off TeamSpeak.

kontrolcrimson wrote:

stryyker wrote:

I am god. You must worship god or be kicked off TeamSpeak.

fix??

unfortunately, no. i dont have admin on TS

imdead wrote:

Eh.. Our community/clan gives admin to those people that donate. Reason being: It shows our gratitude in giving some of your blood. Do all people get it? No, they have to follow basic conduct rules, don't want retards running your server if you know what I mean -- No god-like admining nor stupid kicking.

If Drama happens, in which it will and have to be honest, it has; both parties work it out, if not I get involved Someone has to say "sorry" otherwise no one is forcing the other individual in staying. Keeping 30 people in-line isnt an easy task.

New recruits are decided on a 2 week trial with being in a squad or being shadowed by a person that has been in our community/clan.

As a leader I take responsibility for everyones actions. So if they come to a knife/pistol, I have to account for thier misbehavior, and act accordingly; thats what a leader is all about, not turn the cheek.

Sounds like much of your Clan is more of a Gang that bullies others. So basically you are a GANG of regulars that play together..much like our COMMUNITY -- without the bully part.


Have a nice day.

Imdead the structure you have described is typical of most clans.

And I believe that structure is why a great number of excellent players don't join them.

The concept that we created is as effective as it is simple.   Basically we treat every member as an adult and full member right from acceptance. 

- Forcing someone to say sorry does not solve the problem.  Letting them work it out themselves does.  No  involvement from a third-party mitigator is necessary.  -----uneeded task eliminated

- Involving server access each member is trusted to use their own judgement.    No policing within the gang is needed.  -----uneeded task eliminated

- There is no one person in our group that would be pretentious or foolish enough to take responsibility for others actions in a VIDEO GAME.  -----uneeded task eliminated

- Recruitment involves a finding a good player - who is willing to learn - communicates - and is driven to win to hang out for an undetermined amount of time and a vote is started..the majority decides.

- In response to your Bullies comments.  You might be referring to us going to servers and dominating them as we are all on the same team.  We wouldn't have it any other way....we are driven to work as a team and reap the benefits of our ability to work tightly together.  Yes, I have likened us to a group of guys hanging out on a street corner....if you mess with one of us you mess with us all. 

Our members have freedom to do as they wish, no role calls, useless moral codes, established committees, cliches....a new member has as much influence as a veteran.  This environment has created a very tight group of people who have mutual respect above all else.

I believe our gang is a polar opposite of your typical clan.

NASTIE_BUTLER wrote:

I was just looking for a precident.

We had a group that started out together as a group of friends who blackhawked together.   Then we all joined BSF because one of us was a member.

They had a strict hierarchial structure and a code of conduct, weekly reports and meetings etc and it never accomplished anything.  It made a game more like work.

Anyway we got sick of it and one of us bought a TS server one afternoon so we all (about twenty or thirty) just started to use that instead. 

I believe since it was a huge group that just moved over with no one person claiming ownership of it (the clan) or the TS we became something unique.

-All members have full admin rights to TS and a game server.
-All new members, as soon as they are accepted, gain those rights.
-No seniority exists.
-If a fight occurs the two parties are encrouraged to work it out amongst themselves like adults and if one or both can't deal they just leave on their own.
-New recruits are decided on a majority vote accessible to all members.
-If any member wants to start a league, server, or any other project they can do it and it's success or failure depends entirely on their own effort and leadership ability.

One would think that a community with no leader, admin, or censor would fall into anarchy.  But we have been growing steadily and have all kept a strong bond for the last nine months.

I was wondering if anyone else is involved in a community/clan/gang like this?

I actually really like that.  With everyone in the clan being on the same level, there's less room for power struggles and disagreements between members.  You're all there for one reason.  You all do your parts and everyone knows it.

I miss the Blackhawks.

stryyker wrote:

ThomasMorgan wrote:

I miss the Blackhawks.

dont we all

Well I wouldn't if someone would actually play 1.03.

I remember all the sweet pillowtalk...

"TMo, come back to 1.03.  You can play with Patton and me, we'll BH whore Wake and Mashtuur!"

...we have yet to play a round.  Ass.

I thought this would be obvious.

Well.

It should be run well.

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Our clan was organized like so:

Council:  Founders and a select few.

Active Member: Any active person recruited into Clan

Captain: A Leader of Competitive Member’s in practice and matches



Found my old word doc of our rules:

1) Members are NOT allowed to cheat or hack.

2) Members are NOT allowed to be in other clans, guilds, squadrons, etc.

3) Members are NOT allowed back into the clan if they quit or are banished.

4) Members are NOT allowed to slander other gamers or whine while using in game chat. Remember, when wearing our clan’s tag, you are representing the entire clan by your words and actions.

5) Members are REQUIRED to spend 10% of their gaming time helping the clan. The Clan is not a free-ride – nor does it run itself. Therefore, every hour of online gaming requires six minutes of help, which, everyone can do. You can help recruit, work on website, setup scrims, admin servers, donate, etc.

6) Members are REQUIRED to post at least one thread in the forums every three weeks. This allows members to stay informed of clan events, and notifies the clan, the member is still active. At the end of a member’s third inactive week, their status will be set to inactive. After a sixth inactive week, the members name will be deleted from the clan’s member list; resulting in banishment (exemption: rule #7).

7) Members are REQUIRED to post in the MIA forum for absences more than three weeks long, in which, their status will be changed to inactive. Following four months of excused absence time a members name will be removed from the members list. In order to renew membership that past member must reapply.

8) Members are ENCOURAGED to wear the clans tag at all times.


That’s it.

We didn’t allow whining or slander to be typed in game chat so other people didn’t think we were asshats, but we allowed it in TS until anyone else on TS got annoyed and said stop. We allowed swearing cus we weren’t kids.

We only encouraged members to have members wear the tags, incase they wanted to have fun smurfing

Council members were the only one’s who could let people in and out of the clan – which worked great. Democracies aren’t needed, and are hard to get to work right.

Everyone had server admin, cus everyone donated money even though to wasn’t required, but if people didn’t donate they wouldn’t get admin.

And anyone who didn’t help the clan would get kicked fast.

That’s about it